Looks great man, im really glad you finally decided to change the glow color on the grenades. Also its nice to see the back view for a change. Looks like you could use a little AO type shadow under the hood so it feels like its really sitting on the armor.
Would it be possible to get a new render of him with the hand smoke hidden but the eye ones still there? That polycount logo you have on the top of the hand looks too cool to cover up, and if you can't get the hand fx working from multiple angles then maybe ditching it wouldn't be a bad idea. Plus you could then toss those extra tris into the eye fx to make it work from all sides. And then the last thing, whats this...
Wow, I wish I could texture that well. The map renders seem to have come out great, and I really like your color choices. This one's going straight into my inspiration folder. Awesome work, man.
There seems to be a certain amount of noise on the metals(in the bump?) that detracts from the surface imo. You've got these real cool shapes in there, but the get broken up by the noise.
There seems to be a certain amount of noise on the metals(in the bump?) that detracts from the surface imo. You've got these real cool shapes in there, but the get broken up by the noise.
I agreed, but specifically about the skulls. I think the embossing on the skulls specifically is very odd looking. The dark areas surrounding them (where's it's not eye sockets or teeth) suggest depth that I wouldn't expect, while the noise on them is just a little... odd. Embossing suggests stamped metal, which usually isn't very noisy, but actually kinda smooth, with little dings and scratches here and there.
I think overall this is an amazing character, but those areas really put me off.
so umm, yah, totally badass!!
to be honest, at first i thought that the highpoly was way too noizy and busy at first, and kinda ruining the whole character, but you managed to pull it off with the lowpoly and colors.
the only thing i would have liked to see is foreverendering's paintover proportions back on page 10 on your current model. but either way,superb work.
its cool how you mixed in the skulls, normaly i think they mess up designs, but they are not stongly present and there are alot, wich makes it work really well!
the proportions are interresting and the use of color is great
besides that his scarf can use a bit more shape, i dont think i have any real crits,
aye the scarf is bugging me a tad, i think overall it could do with a shift of hue in the shadows, right now the colors seem a little solid in places (the scarf mainly)
a certain tint may do wonders in the darker shadowed areas, although you may not want to listen to this advice, as it could just be my addiction to blue shadows
like this perhaps:
just a little bit more subtle maybe ^ was just that level to make the change visible.
Great work! Sooomething about the skulls make it look a bit like a printed pajama Very busy and distracting from the overall shapes. I'd consider nuking them in places to open things up!
aye the scarf is bugging me a tad, i think overall it could do with a shift of hue in the shadows, right now the colors seem a little solid in places (the scarf mainly)
a certain tint may do wonders in the darker shadowed areas, although you may not want to listen to this advice, as it could just be my addiction to blue shadows
like this perhaps:
just a little bit more subtle maybe ^ was just that level to make the change visible.
You could actually do that in marmo's settings, so as to leave the texture alone to make sure it can work in different environments.
kite212, gaganjain, Ironhawk, engelik, jox, r4ptur3, jeremy-S, Mop, Abe: Thanks guys, I really appreciate your comments. glad you're digging him.
55joe: Thanks Just let me know if I can help man!
kite: Thanks man, really sorry you can't finish on time..but I know how it is, for sure Seeing your work pushed me, and I'm sure many others, a bit further. You thinking I migh tbe swaying a little too far from "Polycount" with the colours?
nrek: Thanks dude, even though it's not poste din this update...take my word for it that I've added some shading to underneith the hood / over the armor plate son the back. I'll also see what I can do about setting up a render with no hand glowy bits. The main reason why I would like to keep them, though, is that that hand would be his magical item..and I think the glowy fog ind of draws attention to it. Though, it is obviously flawed by only working in a few camera angles..
foreverrendering: Cheers dude Your entry is looking REALLY sweet.
DDDDDUUUUURRRR: Sorry to hear that, man...but you know I still have a giant man crush on you.
EQ: Thanks man, I've toned down some of the noise (think I might have gone too far with sharpen in Marmo + my maps before) and thanks for the ehad sup on what the tool can do...this has been a real life saver for me hehe
coldkodiak: Thanks, I've toned down some of the noise, hoping that this reads a bit better.
warriah: Thanks man, glad you're liking it. I still might try the proportion changes..I did modify the grenades and shoulder pad just a touch...but I might go further still in some areas...we shall see!
bionpittan: Thanks! I'll post flats soon, promise!
Rens: Thanks dude! Totally agree with you on the scarf, if I end up scrapping any of the FX, the tris are going right into there
Fletcher: Man, am I ever glad you're watching my thread Check out my latest update, I tried to go more in the direction as you have suggested...it's all post in Marmo though, didn't touch any of my textures just yet. I'll post a shot of his back later and you'll see that in the texture I've darkened up his collar shadows some more...but for the most part it's just post for now. Thanks again for all your feedback man, your entry is sure to be a winner
rasmus: Hehehe, I don't think I'll be making that serious of a change at this stage..but thanks for the feedback
Parnell:
Phew...Alright. After finding out about the extension, I took a few nights catch on some sleep (first night with +5 hours sleep in 3 weeks!) A few tweaks here and there, added some dirt to some areas, added more obvious green weathering to the metals, played with different lighting (focusing some attention to the above feedback) and also trying out a pose. The pose isn't really too much, I did it in transpose...I'm happy with the way it is, but I'm kind of bummed that I'm realizing I can't do much more with him in that regard (because of things that are baked down, design choices that are biting me just now, etc.)
I may also have to find a way to get a bigger shot out of Marmo...any hints EQ? I'm guessing just having it open at a higher screen res might do the trick...
Edit> I still need to make a base, though I don't think I'll be going to crazy with it...most likely just a fancy stone pedestal of sorts. Any thoughts on if bullet casings would be allowed on the base? Technically, they could be picked up...but they're not more useful than a rock..
Mostly just playing with different settings in Marmo...still not settled on anything
AWESOME gavin. I have to admit when I saw the final sculpt, I was wondering if you would be able to pull off readability with all that high frequency detail. You did! I love the look of the bronze, very stylish.
really nice gav, it would be cool to see some more separation between his gun holster and his crotch area though. I'm talking about the leather material you have going on for both.
Great work Gavin, you're basically done with plenty of time to spare
I think bullet casings would be okay, I'm not sure if you remember but in Dominance War 2 Marcus Dublin had a character with shells all over his pedestal and it was accepted. I don't see how it could be a problem
Damn, dude! This is looking amazing! It's such a well - thought out character. I'm loving the materials, the style, the way you've balanced the details.....EASILY in the top 10. Looks like the hard part is over and now it's all about presentation. Great work!
Alright, I'm calling this one done. There's a few areas I know could use improvement, like the pose, but I really need to get cracking on other projects that have been put on the back burner...plus, I'm starting to see this guy in my cereal.
Unless something is OBVIOUSLY wrong and would break a rule or something, I'm going to submit some time tomorrow. After a few weeks away from him, I may do some different renders just for fun as I'm really happy with how he turned out and would have liked to show different angles and stuff.
Again, thanks to everyone who posted, gave me feedback and pushed me to create this. I have no expectations of placing but I really feel that I met my goal of pushing my boundaries and creating something outside of my safe zone.
Nice finish Gav! Everything turned out great on this guy. It still surprises me just how much detail you managed to pack into the textures, and the presentation pages look great. Job well done :thumbup:.
Awesome work! Everything is so nice and clean. Lots of nice details, shapes and interesting design. I would only like to see him posed a bit more dynamic.
Awesome texturing there. Would also like to see him in a more dynamic pose, or something that indicates more how heavy he actually is, like legs more bent and spread perhaps.
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Now endless night for rigging......
Would it be possible to get a new render of him with the hand smoke hidden but the eye ones still there? That polycount logo you have on the top of the hand looks too cool to cover up, and if you can't get the hand fx working from multiple angles then maybe ditching it wouldn't be a bad idea. Plus you could then toss those extra tris into the eye fx to make it work from all sides. And then the last thing, whats this...
http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wasistdasgav.jpg
... is it a rouge brush stroke in the dif or spec or something?
i need your results asap!.
looking great!
Textures work great!
No worries about my suggestions, I just throw stuff out there Just trust your instincts man and you will end up with something really cool
great work on the metal bits! his gun came out much higher res than I imagined it would -- kudos on fitting all that in your maps!
I'm sad to say i won't be finishing in time for the compo. But maybe down the road.
I agreed, but specifically about the skulls. I think the embossing on the skulls specifically is very odd looking. The dark areas surrounding them (where's it's not eye sockets or teeth) suggest depth that I wouldn't expect, while the noise on them is just a little... odd. Embossing suggests stamped metal, which usually isn't very noisy, but actually kinda smooth, with little dings and scratches here and there.
I think overall this is an amazing character, but those areas really put me off.
to be honest, at first i thought that the highpoly was way too noizy and busy at first, and kinda ruining the whole character, but you managed to pull it off with the lowpoly and colors.
the only thing i would have liked to see is foreverendering's paintover proportions back on page 10 on your current model. but either way,superb work.
me especially likes the gold part. how the..
i demand flats!
its cool how you mixed in the skulls, normaly i think they mess up designs, but they are not stongly present and there are alot, wich makes it work really well!
the proportions are interresting and the use of color is great
besides that his scarf can use a bit more shape, i dont think i have any real crits,
very very kewl! colors work much better together...love the old goldy colors
aye the scarf is bugging me a tad, i think overall it could do with a shift of hue in the shadows, right now the colors seem a little solid in places (the scarf mainly)
a certain tint may do wonders in the darker shadowed areas, although you may not want to listen to this advice, as it could just be my addiction to blue shadows
like this perhaps:
just a little bit more subtle maybe ^ was just that level to make the change visible.
gogogogo!
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You could actually do that in marmo's settings, so as to leave the texture alone to make sure it can work in different environments.
kite212, gaganjain, Ironhawk, engelik, jox, r4ptur3, jeremy-S, Mop, Abe: Thanks guys, I really appreciate your comments. glad you're digging him.
55joe: Thanks Just let me know if I can help man!
kite: Thanks man, really sorry you can't finish on time..but I know how it is, for sure Seeing your work pushed me, and I'm sure many others, a bit further. You thinking I migh tbe swaying a little too far from "Polycount" with the colours?
nrek: Thanks dude, even though it's not poste din this update...take my word for it that I've added some shading to underneith the hood / over the armor plate son the back. I'll also see what I can do about setting up a render with no hand glowy bits. The main reason why I would like to keep them, though, is that that hand would be his magical item..and I think the glowy fog ind of draws attention to it. Though, it is obviously flawed by only working in a few camera angles..
foreverrendering: Cheers dude Your entry is looking REALLY sweet.
DDDDDUUUUURRRR: Sorry to hear that, man...but you know I still have a giant man crush on you.
EQ: Thanks man, I've toned down some of the noise (think I might have gone too far with sharpen in Marmo + my maps before) and thanks for the ehad sup on what the tool can do...this has been a real life saver for me hehe
coldkodiak: Thanks, I've toned down some of the noise, hoping that this reads a bit better.
warriah: Thanks man, glad you're liking it. I still might try the proportion changes..I did modify the grenades and shoulder pad just a touch...but I might go further still in some areas...we shall see!
bionpittan: Thanks! I'll post flats soon, promise!
Rens: Thanks dude! Totally agree with you on the scarf, if I end up scrapping any of the FX, the tris are going right into there
Fletcher: Man, am I ever glad you're watching my thread Check out my latest update, I tried to go more in the direction as you have suggested...it's all post in Marmo though, didn't touch any of my textures just yet. I'll post a shot of his back later and you'll see that in the texture I've darkened up his collar shadows some more...but for the most part it's just post for now. Thanks again for all your feedback man, your entry is sure to be a winner
rasmus: Hehehe, I don't think I'll be making that serious of a change at this stage..but thanks for the feedback
Parnell:
Phew...Alright. After finding out about the extension, I took a few nights catch on some sleep (first night with +5 hours sleep in 3 weeks!) A few tweaks here and there, added some dirt to some areas, added more obvious green weathering to the metals, played with different lighting (focusing some attention to the above feedback) and also trying out a pose. The pose isn't really too much, I did it in transpose...I'm happy with the way it is, but I'm kind of bummed that I'm realizing I can't do much more with him in that regard (because of things that are baked down, design choices that are biting me just now, etc.)
I may also have to find a way to get a bigger shot out of Marmo...any hints EQ? I'm guessing just having it open at a higher screen res might do the trick...
Edit> I still need to make a base, though I don't think I'll be going to crazy with it...most likely just a fancy stone pedestal of sorts. Any thoughts on if bullet casings would be allowed on the base? Technically, they could be picked up...but they're not more useful than a rock..
Mostly just playing with different settings in Marmo...still not settled on anything
Cheers,
Gav
I think bullet casings would be okay, I'm not sure if you remember but in Dominance War 2 Marcus Dublin had a character with shells all over his pedestal and it was accepted. I don't see how it could be a problem
I wouldn't think the shells would be much of a problem, as its a great idea!
Now is time to give him a cool pose and a base.
came out really nice
i think its a nice style improvement from youre previous stuff too
Alright, I'm calling this one done. There's a few areas I know could use improvement, like the pose, but I really need to get cracking on other projects that have been put on the back burner...plus, I'm starting to see this guy in my cereal.
Unless something is OBVIOUSLY wrong and would break a rule or something, I'm going to submit some time tomorrow. After a few weeks away from him, I may do some different renders just for fun as I'm really happy with how he turned out and would have liked to show different angles and stuff.
Again, thanks to everyone who posted, gave me feedback and pushed me to create this. I have no expectations of placing but I really feel that I met my goal of pushing my boundaries and creating something outside of my safe zone.
Cheers,
Gav
And your model turned out frickkin fanastic!
GOOD JOB! good sir!