[P&P] - What are you working on? 2008 Edition

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  • Pedro Amorim
  • rooster
  • c0ldhands
    ::RobG--Stylish piece there mate, really enjoyed your blog. Would like to see more of this, or would like you hanging more around here. We could need some fresh breath in here! Cheers from RobC.(hehe)
  • Neox
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    Neox ngon master
    robg rocks

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    falling asleep now -.- .zZ
  • Lord Ned
    Start of a quickly-loosing-inspiration cannon, based off of Natural Selection Siege Turret.

    However, there isn't terribly much detail right around where I"m working on, so I'm kinda starting to loose momentum behind it.

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    I feel so out-classed by all the other good work here. :(
  • Vrav
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    Vrav polycounter lvl 10
    Wow, everyone is kicking ass. Rad art on this page..

    Here's a thing I started yesterday as a texture experiment (for disgusting beasts); the texturing itself is pretty early, but I rushed through the sculpting and retopo stage so quickly that.. while it isn't terrible, it's still quite ugly, hahaha, anyway: totally unwitting BoBo homage:

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  • Paul Pepera
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    RobG, katzeimsack, Neox - Great stuff :)

    BrodyB - Nice, an Iron Helix homage, great game and the model is looking nice.

    Working on a SAFS now...

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  • rollin
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    rollin greentooth
    katze .. nice one.. looks like palpartine after too much beer

    rooster: nice shapes!

    neox: looks realy cool.. waiting for the textures.. this one has again lots of character.
  • Slum
    Little boredom project from tonight... Still needs work, like where the striker mechanism meets the body (missing that cone shape).. blarrrgh.

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  • FAT_CAP
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    Some AWESOME stuff on the last couple of pages - katzeimsack, Rooster, Vahl, RobG... I bow down before your fonts of artistic goodness!
  • KikiAlex
    Nick Carver, I'm sorry I forget to say that I am modeling this from your concept...
    I had this picture for some time in my inspiration folder, but I forget were I got it from... :(
  • c0ldhands
    :EraserHead-- Looking good mate, i like that u have kept yourself very true to the model. Im also impressed by your speed! Im kinda stuck with mine now in the uv mapping process, do you plan on making yours a game model?
  • Davision3D
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    Davision3D interpolator
    I have my FPV arms with the effect in the game:
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    I have made a vid of it in action, also in there: the effect on the head and a bit of the invasion mod.
    nice vimeo quality:
    http://www.vimeo.com/2531213
    crappy youtube quality:
    [ame]
  • Chunkey
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    Chunkey polycounter lvl 15
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    gone a few weeks without doing any real art, used Vahl's basemesh and just started doodling about a week ago, got the basics done then did some more today. Just wanted to show I'm still alive heh
  • Waz
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    Waz polycounter lvl 12
    New character I'm working on, based on a concept by Meatsworthy. Still have hair to do and maybe some more tweaking of the Zbrush,

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  • Chunkey
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    Chunkey polycounter lvl 15
    loving the clothing on the character Waz :) once the hair is on it'll be easier to comment on the face- loving the detail though, just need to make sure it doesn't become noise city :)
  • vahl
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    vahl polycounter lvl 14
    Chunkey : GOGOGO dude :)

    waz : folds, especially on the trousers are really random, more is not always better and you should keep in mind the reason they are supposed to be here. I tend to always start with obvious pressure and gravity points, then add more pressure depending on what is under the cloth, I'd strongly suggest you this book if you don't already have it :

    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Dynamic-Wrinkles-Drapery-Solutions-Practical/dp/0823015874/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1229369597&sr=8-1]Dynamic wrinkles and drapery[/ame]


    Also, the facial structure doesn't read as correct to me, eyes seem either too small and/or high, cheeks aren't working and mouth is way too pinched
  • _Gr9yFox_
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    This is my special way of wishing LittleBigPlanet was on the PSP.

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  • Neox
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    Neox ngon master
    haha great _Gr9yFox_

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  • Massbot
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    Neox that is stunning.
    haha, I lol'd when I scrolled up Gr9yFox, nice :)

    Been doing a fair bit of zbrush recently, thought I would try some mechanical stuff for fun. Quite like this one, so I hope to get around fixing it up, then onto a low poly.
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  • ae.
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    ae. polycounter lvl 9
    runnning ingame woot thanks to Havok89!

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  • seforin
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    seforin polycounter lvl 12
    Neox wrote: »
    haha great _Gr9yFox_

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    amazing as always, neox is it possible that you can post your flats one of these days for these guys? I wanna see how much work the diffuse is doing versus shader one of these days!

    Awesome as always!
  • Slum
  • Vrav
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    Vrav polycounter lvl 10
    Some pretty subtle changes there Slum, but I like it a lot better now. :) Nice little details.
  • butt_sahib
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    @ neox and slum <3

    Working on the storm giant. Have no idea which way to go.Slim and athletic or the way i have it now :/ DO tell :D
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  • Neox
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    Neox ngon master
    seforin wrote: »
    neox is it possible that you can post your flats one of these days for these guys?

    sure

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    @butt: i really like the forms of this one, athletic yet subtle not overmuscular
  • butt_sahib
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    Thanks alot neox! :D
    I did some changes to the proportions and smoothed somethings out. Do i have your permission to go into detailing now? Mr.no eyes:
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    That texture flat is purddy. :) Thanks for posting!
    Oh and sefronin, if the textures dont look good, theres a really good chance that the model is going to suck with shaders aswell (my honest opinion)
  • Japhir
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    very very cool stuff neox! i see that the diffuse still owns da place ;). (not just materials but also shadows etc.)
  • Neox
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    Neox ngon master
    Some guys will burn me for this, but i give damn nothing about "it has to be dynamic" fuck that, it looks like dead plastic crap in most cases, never liked that and never will like that, while this one might not look correct when lit from beneath, it's looking good for most lighting situations, it doesn't have to be mathmatical correct to be good.

    To me the diffuse has to guide the normalmap, the normalmap is just an addition, letting it do the whole job, still doesn't compete with good old diffuse textures. Sure you can tone down the shading more then when having diffuse only, but removing it entirely and letting the shader do the job is just not good enough these days, maybe it will be but it's not now. :)
  • vahl
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    vahl polycounter lvl 14
    Neox : thanks for having common sense man :) and if they burn you, they can go ahead and burn me aswell !

    great texture btw, I was wondering how you got that nicely drawn line inside the mesh itself without cutting it, NOW I KNO UR SECRETZ !!!
    Seeing Airborn stuff is always refreshing and awesome guys, MORE!!! :)
  • butt_sahib
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    Ooh,by the way, Adam, i really like the whole model, but that push on the polys at the back which is turning them into blobby form-less horns is really taking its toll on the model. You should just bring it back in, or make it flow through out the model.The latter might be difficult to do as im getting the vibe that you suddenly decided to do it haha. But you canz doing itz! :D
    EDIT:
    Best ref. you can get for yourself is either checking out paul's or djordje's folios.(two people i admire very much <3) Speaking in reference to the skin-mechanic transition
  • Massbot
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    Wow, thanks for the link, impressive stuff!

    Ha, ye it was bit of sudden decision and kinda just left it, cant do much with them either because the poly distribution up there is screwed - Think i'll real them back in :)
  • seforin
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    Neox wrote: »
    Some guys will burn me for this, but i give damn nothing about "it has to be dynamic" fuck that, it looks like dead plastic crap in most cases, never liked that and never will like that, while this one might not look correct when lit from beneath, it's looking good for most lighting situations, it doesn't have to be mathmatical correct to be good.

    To me the diffuse has to guide the normalmap, the normalmap is just an addition, letting it do the whole job, still doesn't compete with good old diffuse textures. Sure you can tone down the shading more then when having diffuse only, but removing it entirely and letting the shader do the job is just not good enough these days, maybe it will be but it's not now. :)


    thanks you so much for posting the diffuse! So your just running a diffuse and normal pass and the rest of the effects are being called by the shader? or are you using a ramp/gradient texture as well to effect the spec of the objects as well?

    Ive been making some leaps in understanding shaders lately but I didnt realise that the diffuse had so much work put into it. I need to go back to my guy and really give him some diffuse love after seeing this!
  • Wells
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  • Neox
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    @seforin: i'm using a texture to ramp a half lambert shading and adding an ambient cubemap on that, pretty much like the TF2 Stuff works, but with some tweaks in the ramp, ambientcube etv. and put rimlight and specular above that, but i have to tweak that part still, really no great speculars/reflections right now
  • seforin
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    Neox wrote: »
    @seforin: i'm using a texture to ramp a half lambert shading and adding an ambient cubemap on that, pretty much like the TF2 Stuff works, but with some tweaks in the ramp, ambientcube etv. and put rimlight and specular above that, but i have to tweak that part still, really no great speculars/reflections right now


    so basically its more or less good diffuse/normal and cross hatching shader more then anything else to give the nice effects, the rimg light and specular are just minor fluff?


    Im starting to understand more and more what you did sir! Veryvery sneaky!
  • Vredesbyrd
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    I made this after work , still needs bevels

    Massbot I like what U did back there
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  • warby
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    background screen from my new casual game that hopefully will flush some cash into my wallet

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  • Neox
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    Neox ngon master
    seforin wrote: »
    so basically its more or less good diffuse/normal and cross hatching shader more then anything else to give the nice effects, the rimg light and specular are just minor fluff?


    Im starting to understand more and more what you did sir! Veryvery sneaky!


    no crosshatches anymore, we dropped that as we couldn't control it as much as we wanted, having it only in the shadows like in valkyria chronicles would be nice but we can't use the shadows as a mask, or well we don't know how to do that, so there is only some hatching in the textures
  • cholden
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    lol warby that's awesome! :D
  • EarthQuake
    Neox wrote: »
    Some guys will burn me for this, but i give damn nothing about "it has to be dynamic" fuck that, it looks like dead plastic crap in most cases, never liked that and never will like that, while this one might not look correct when lit from beneath, it's looking good for most lighting situations, it doesn't have to be mathmatical correct to be good.

    To me the diffuse has to guide the normalmap, the normalmap is just an addition, letting it do the whole job, still doesn't compete with good old diffuse textures. Sure you can tone down the shading more then when having diffuse only, but removing it entirely and letting the shader do the job is just not good enough these days, maybe it will be but it's not now. :)

    This stuff is highly highly HIGHLY subjective, and very much related to exactly what sort of lighting, shaders, and art style you are trying to achive. While i wont try to tell you that you are wrong, because clearly what you have works really cool, and is a great style. But I think what you're doing here could be done in a pretty simple fashion, with the right shaders and lighting, while still being a dynamic effect.

    Again not saying what you're doing is wrong, just saying that there are infact many ways to skin a cat. And none of them are "correct". There is no "correct" in game art, as it is all just a series of hacks to get a certain desire effect, so in essence, I am actually agreeing with you on some points here. =)

    So experiment people, do what looks good! Not what some programmer tells you is correct.
  • Neox
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    Neox ngon master
    sure it's highly subjective, no questions about that

    your last sentence pretty much sums it up :D
  • Massbot
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    Thanks for the guide sectarus, i'll print it out and keep it in my lunchbox.
  • Marine
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    nice, warby, but the candle is insanely bright.
  • LEViATHAN
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    ~1000 triangles atm
  • gamedev
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    Nice Warby! Is that Ink n' Paint or something else? What game is it for / platform?
  • rooster
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    rooster mod
    Warby, Neox, Slum: cool beans!

    dunno how far ill keep goin with this as a test, but it still needs another modelling pass (for facial features, wrinkles, tweaks)
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  • Richard Kain
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    Hey Warby. Is that a 3D scene that you rendered out? Looking at it I can't help but feel that environment was constructed in 3D. You've captured a very illustrative feel, and some of the elements might have been illustrated in afterwords, but I can't shake the feeling that I'm seeing a rendering of a 3D scene.

    Either way, killer work, I'm really digging the style.
  • Tumerboy
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    very cool Warby. Is that a store from 'The Old Republic'?! :P
  • Rens
    Good stuff Rooster! Love the style.

    The only thing thats a bit weird is the curve in the upperleg and the lowerarm, maybe straighten those out a bit?
    (upperleg in the frontview, lowerarm in the sideview)
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