Phantom Pain/ Metal Gear Solid 5

arshlevon · Dec 2012

anyone see this, suppose to be all in game footage.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSfajBs2nyQ"]The Phantom Pain Trailer! (Metal Gear Solid 5?) - YouTube[/ame]

The Mad Artist · Dec 2012

Am I the only one that thinks that this is pretty damn cool?

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/12/07/is-phantom-pain-actually-a-new-metal-gear-game.aspx

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503254

Joshua Stubbles · Dec 2012

Looks legit to me. I'd guess a new MGS game as well.

skankerzero · Dec 2012

show me gameplay, not an interactive cutscene.

ae. · Dec 2012

skankerzero wrote: »

show me gameplay, not an interactive cutscene.

Y U MAD? that's what call of duty is :P

**edit** the quote button is right next to the edit button. d'oh!

Marine · Dec 2012

Guy that looks like Snake, with his left arm missing, and the Union Jack in the background when he wakes up. If only there was a character in MGS that linked all those three things together and who hasn't been in the series in nearly 15 years.
It's right there, but I can't quite grasp it, it's like trying to grab a liquid

skankerzero · Dec 2012

ae. wrote: »

Y U MAD? that's what call of duty is :P

and that's why I don't play CoD either. ;D

blankslatejoe · Dec 2012

yeah..saw this last night on the VGAs. I was actually really intrigued by this...until I put the MGS connection in there. I was all delighted that maybe there was *actually* a new IP that looked this good from a studio no one had ever heard of premiering at an event as mainstream as the VGAs...the sheer impossibility of all that really got me interested. Now...not so much.

Two Listen · Dec 2012

Looks pretty sweet to me.

The Mad Artist · Dec 2012

Looks like Solid Snake? Hmm, but wasn't Liquid the one that got his arm cut off...and aren't Liquid and Solid twin brothers...hmm....

ebagg · Dec 2012

Haha, definitely looks like a sequence from MGS! And with the hijinks Hideo Kojima pulls in the MGS trailers it's hilarious they decided to make it a "fake" trailer for a new IP!

Andreas · Dec 2012

Yes, this looks like it has to be MGSV. Excited like I always am, hope Koji doesnt let me down like he almost always does. Hope to see Liquid back and some interesting mechanics and story elements regarding amputees and prosthesis. I dont care so much for flaming unicorns and flaming whales.

ErichWK · Dec 2012

That Neogaf thread is great. Here are some highlights.

Is that Psycho Mantis as a kid in the background?

I love this shit. Kojima you god damn magnificent bastard.

**edit The gaf thread is super long so I am going to keep throwing in the most interesting clues.

Here is another theory. Of the man helping snake, possibly being the Burnt Man..

DashXero · Dec 2012

Wait. If it IS Liquid... That doesn't make any goddamn sense. Liquid died of FOXDIE. Snake and Otacon used his body to fake Snake's death after the Tanker Incident.

The only way that could be Liquid is if he were resurrected Frank Jaeger-style. Where are his freaking cybernetics?

ErichWK · Dec 2012

Could be Solidus? Who knows. Maybe Liquid never died..maybe it's a 4th clone. Maybe it's Big Boss and it's paralleling the fact that this Snake has his left arm missing, when Liquid was missing his right. SO MANY QUESTIONS. Is this Kojima's game he has been wanting to make his entire life? His White whale?

**edit

Fuck it. It's This.

DashXero · Dec 2012

But Solidus died during MGS4. If it's a fourth clone, that would be yet another retcon of the Les Enfants Terribles debacle. If memory serves, Big Boss had the use of both of his arms during the first Metal Gear.

I love Kojima, but it's getting harder and harder to watch this man take a piss on everything he's worked so hard to build. MGS4 was excruciating... Peace Walker just a little bit less so.

I mean, what's next? We find out that Solid didn't die of Verner's Syndrome and was somehow cured of it, but got effed up in a car accident and lost an arm? That they've been using Boss/Ocelot's umbilical cord to make clones of either Ocelot or the Boss? That everything we know about LET is a lie and that there were tons of Big Boss clones running around (hell, that there's a Big Boss clone mowing my freaking lawn right now?)?

For all the effort they're putting into squeezing every last single cent out of Metal Gear as a franchise, they could probably do much better just making something else. Good heavens, I hope this is something else...

EDIT: The only way I could get past all this is if the fellow we follow during this trailer is Otacon. Where after Snake's death, he takes up the mantle and screws up royally. THAT would be entertaining.

EDIT2: ErichWK, that is freaking hilarious.

Joseph Silverman · Dec 2012

You guys realize mgs4 takes place in supertech anime nightmarefuture, right?

This is definitely big boss chronology, 70s or 80s. And I'm SO HYPE ABOUT IT.

ErichWK · Dec 2012

Could be all a hallucination, too... I mean what with the Flaming Horse, the Flaming Whale...and that scene when all those soldiers shoot everyone surrounding Snake, yet miss him, or shoot right through him. Once again, do you see that child? Might be a young Mantis.. Screaming or Psycho.. Could all be in Snakes head.

biofrost · Dec 2012

Yeah with that most likley being young Psycho Mantis or even The Pain the whole arm missing thing is a hallucination

xvampire · Dec 2012

"you 've been in coma for quite sometime ...."

yesss !! now I knew that the entire story in MGS 4 was just a dream!

j/k

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvp34h_the-phantom-pain_videogames#.UMQP64M0V8E slightly better quality video trailer ( 720p )

The Mad Artist · Dec 2012

I know people like to trash on the Metal Gear franchise and everything, but this kinda stuff is exciting to me. Kojima is a freaking genius, very well done.

Cojax · Dec 2012

While I think it looks interesting, I just don't see the game play. One of my issues with MGS4 was the lack of game play or very weak game play elements. Felt more like an interactive movie then a game. If the story wasn't so convoluted I might have enjoyed it. I fear the same with this. Very nice production quality though!

TrevorJ · Dec 2012

looks to me like they gone and killed death, superman style.

[ame="

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PlwDbSYicM"]The Death and Return of Superman - YouTube[/ame]

Ark · Dec 2012

Those lens flares are starting to become annoying.

moose · Dec 2012

that looks great! love the fire unicorn. the crawling bit went a little long, but the whole thing oozes style, excited to see what this pans out to be.

xvampire · Dec 2012

I wont doubt much about gameplay in MGS franchise , it always offer lots of variation for stealth genre.
what most people complain in MGS gameplay is the length , it hard to judge from trailer

Needles · Dec 2012

Looks like big boss getting tortured by by young Psycho Mantis, this kind of trip out shit is not new to Big boss games.. anyone play mgs3 ??

ratone · Dec 2012

If I'm not mistaken, Big Boss was in coma in '72 right? that's when the clones were made. So, we can probably expect that he lost an arm back then, probably the scientists "cloned/grew" him a new one.

ErichWK · Dec 2012

It seems some sleuth found out the map in the trailer is actually Cyprus.

glottis8 · Dec 2012

This whole thing reminds me of Johnny Got His Gun... in that book reality is distorted by the medication and his pain into weird trips and nightmares... It would be awesome if MGS5 explored that... and had a more psychological approach to it.

Whatever it is... it does look like Kojimas work... and that mullet...only snake and kurt russell can rock that without shame :P

I still want to see a The Boss centered MGS. That would be so badass!

Guedin · Dec 2012

It looks to me the story could be around big boss recruiting the future members of FOXHOUND. We can already quickly see what appear to be a young psycho mantis in this trailer, and in my opinion, Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain are the same game : Metal Gear Solid 5. And in the MGS:GZ trailer we can see some soldiers throwing badges with a FOX logo upside down. Since FOXHOUND was originally created to take down the rebel FOX members, that could make some sense

Ah man, only Kojima can play with us like this ! I can't wait to put my hands on this game

ErichWK · Dec 2012

Kojima said that Ground Zeros is a prelude to MGS5. The thing is.. Phantom Pain may not be Metal Gear Solid 5...but Metal Gear Solid V. Kojima does weird shit like this. Maybe Phantom Pain is a vita game? Maybe it's 5? It's hard to tell. Maybe Ground Zeros is the opening chapter to MGSV?? Kinda like the tanker mission in Metal Gear Solid 2..ugh. I LOVE THIS STUFF. MORE INFO PLZ.

Sculptaur · Dec 2012

Theres some weird stuff going on on the moby dick youtube account.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUFWzCWLHczYWzBnj2XMtl-qpbpxqXhXA

Theres some morse code in there, my friend said they decoded it:

- .... . - ... - - - ... ... .. ... .-. . .- -.. -.--

"The Boss is ready"

Andreas · Dec 2012

Wish to fuck they'd move off of the cold war/big boss trip. This is like what, 6 games now? Give me something in the 80's at least, if not MGS1 era.

ErichWK · Dec 2012

Maaaaan That trailer is seriously creepy. Anyways, the internet has figured out that the hospital in the trailer is this Hospital..

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/akrotiri-hospital/half-century-medical-care-winds-down-akrotiri/20121007

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But wait.. The boss is ready?? THE BOSS DIED IN THE END OF MGS3!! gaaaaaaaaaah!!!! What could this mean.. The youtube videos also mention the Fury..and the Sorrow..

JacqueChoi · Dec 2012

Looks awesome!

1 Pretty serious question:

Now that he's missing his hand. Does that mean he has to get a girlfriend?

T_T

reverendK · Dec 2012

this is brilliant freaking marketing. one semi-ambiguous trailer and the interwebs pick up on a big stinkin ol' ARG within hours. freaking awesome.
say what you want about MGS - more games should go public like this.

ErichWK · Dec 2012

Ya!! I'm all about this kind of stuff! Like what J.J Abrams did with Cloverfield and the smaller but still cool viral stuff Sony did with Last of Us.

Andreas · Dec 2012

ErichWK wrote: »

Maaaaan That trailer is seriously creepy. Anyways, the internet has figured out that the hospital in the trailer is this Hospital..

How?

I wonder if the story will involve the Turkish invasion. Happened in the 70's, it's plausible.

ErichWK · Dec 2012

Andreas wrote: »

How?

I wonder if the story will involve the Turkish invasion. Happened in the 70's, it's plausible.

Near the top supports theory. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503254&page=74

Andreas · Dec 2012

Interesting... they even spotted the wall sockets lol.

ErichWK · Dec 2012

Yes. Yes they did.
"The electrical plug sockets in the hospital are the British standard BS 1363 - also used in Cyprus. "

Shiniku · Dec 2012

Wait a minute.. did I miss something? Is there any hard reason why we think this is related to Metal Gear Solid, or just wild speculation at this point?

Andreas · Dec 2012

The logo makes it irrefutable in my opinion.

reverendK · Dec 2012

It's the mullet what does it, man. all in the mullet.

ErichWK · Dec 2012

Shiniku wrote: »

Wait a minute.. did I miss something? Is there any hard reason why we think this is related to Metal Gear Solid, or just wild speculation at this point?

Shiniku · Dec 2012

Well, fair enough I guess. We'd all look a little silly if it turned out not to be true, but I guess all signs are pointing that way.

Guedin · Dec 2012

Oh god ! the thing with the wall socket is awesome. Internet people are awesome.
It's like a game before the game

ErichWK · Dec 2012

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/383157/blog/dissected-the-phantom-pain-trailer-and-its-21-significant-metal-gear-ties/

"Dissected: The Phantom Pain trailer - and its 21 significant Metal Gear ties
1970s dashboards, banded blue lights and cast iron proof Phantom Pain is linked to MGS: Ground Zeroes"

The Mad Artist · Mar 2013

TAKE MY MONEY

http://kotaku.com/metal-gear-solid-v-is-official-fox-vs-xof-update-t-461177345

Marine · Mar 2013

No more David Hayter

Phantom Pain/ Metal Gear Solid 5

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