@Andrew: I'm not trying to be rude here and what I did now is clearly wrong, but that's my point:
I know you recognize this background, but I think edited enough, so legally I did nothing wrong...right?
As Bronto said, morality and legality are two very different things, and I don't know why you are so sure that it isn't illegal.
Last time I consulted one of my art teachers about this, the rule of thumb is that if a copyrighted work is edited enough not to be recognizable, it's okay to use. Now what's 'recognizable' may be different for those of us frequenting art communities, so the assumption is that the general public wouldn't recognize it.
Well, since legality is a very complicated thing to discuss about, I'd just remove that bg.
A good work doesn't worth to be put in risk for something like this.
If this is creating a discussion here, let's just imagine...what if the set gets approved? Will the owner of that artwork receive his part on the revenue?
Well I remember being taught in high school that an 80% change to an art piece isnt considered copyright ( i think that might only apply to australia though)
So that's why you can have parody art which obviously takes something like monolisa and change it up to give a different perspective.
But I'm sure I have seen that exact same BG image (not the blue ice one) somewhere on deviant art that is all. Who knows, maybe mihal did it and put it on deviant art
Well I remember being taught in high school that an 80% change to an art piece isnt considered copyright ( i think that might only apply to australia though)
So that's why you can have parody art which obviously takes something like monolisa and change it up to give a different perspective.
But I'm sure I have seen that exact same BG image (not the blue ice one) somewhere on deviant art that is all. Who knows, maybe mihal did it and put it on deviant art
Now thats different, if someone else made that edited piece then thats a whole other story! I've heard that percent thing as well, but I heard 20%, and to be honest, I wouldn't really trust it considering its not mentioned anywhere to my knowledge. Hopefully we can get some clarification from Mihal when he responds.
Well I remember being taught in high school that an 80% change to an art piece isnt considered copyright ( i think that might only apply to australia though)
Yeah I was taught the same thing (although I remember it being less than 80%, not sure). The problem is that it's such a subjective scale it's hard to measure percentages for this kind of thing - can you just crop 20% of an artwork and consider it your own?
As a general rule of thumb I just use all of my own work - that way you never have to worry about anything like this.
Well, since legality is a very complicated thing to discuss about, I'd just remove that bg.
A good work doesn't worth to be put in risk for something like this.
If this is creating a discussion here, let's just imagine...what if the set gets approved? Will the owner of that artwork receive his part on the revenue?
Does it really worth the risk...for Valve?
Why would you think that they'll take that image at all? That's promo imgae for his collection, i think you can dig up some fair-non-commercial use rule about it. If you're that concerned about it, just leave a developers comment saying that if they're going to use the image, it's not yours and they should replace it.
Here, have a promo pic i quickly did from your image. Your masking skills suck, there's blue stuff left everywhere
guys, i would like some feedback on this wip video
thanks
15 seconds of nothing.
Plane drafts on the owl wings.
The scenario is basically someone sacrificing the courier to the Roshan. bg ff plz
Kawaii stare at the camera at the end. It worked in shrek, but the courier is not so rich on the emotions.
I still think that the cat is too bright, but that could be colour correction.
Is it bad that I wanted to see Roshan swat that cat out of the air like a fly? I think it's a little extreme the courier going after the big fella, but it's a well pieced together video nonetheless.
I thought you would make the bird catch the cat and make the last scene with them as a flying courier flying over Rosh and delivering the items somehow, would make more sense.
Anyway, I like the camera takes and the pace of the video, just a bit more polish and a better resolution to the Roshan scene and it will be fine.
Why would you think that they'll take that image at all? That's promo imgae for his collection, i think you can dig up some fair-non-commercial use rule about it. If you're that concerned about it, just leave a developers comment saying that if they're going to use the image, it's not yours and they should replace it.
Here, have a promo pic i quickly did from your image. Your masking skills suck, there's blue stuff left everywhere
Overexposed.
BG is now in a deep mix with the character.
Low contrast.
...awesome set )
Glad you like the set guys ; Indeed I used part of that ilustration (composed with several other pictures ) ; Its definetly not over 80% alterated and I understand the issues that it brings with , , so I will remake the background . And will work on the icons allso .
I thought you would make the bird catch the cat and make the last scene with them as a flying courier flying over Rosh and delivering the items somehow, would make more sense.
Anyway, I like the camera takes and the pace of the video, just a bit more polish and a better resolution to the Roshan scene and it will be fine.
Yeah, I actually expected the cat to jump over Rosh in order to make his delivery, it doesn't really make much sense to have the courier fight him! Great video otherwise, though!
Hi all, I've been getting a lot of feedback from the workshop about the colour contrast between the green armour and the maroon reds of the cloth sections. I initially picked these colours because they were complements, and then added the brighter green for the emissives, and because yellow green works as a split complementary harmony to the initial maroon colour. Because changing the colours is a simple adjustment I was wondering what peoples opinions were. Do you that the colours are too clashing?
Also, I don't know if it's a good idea to take Workshop advices too seriously.
True. I think that people making a lot of suggestions there. But if all those suggestions are related to a similar acpect it's a good motive to may be realy change something.
15 seconds of nothing.
Plane drafts on the owl wings.
The scenario is basically someone sacrificing the courier to the Roshan. bg ff plz
Kawaii stare at the camera at the end. It worked in shrek, but the courier is not so rich on the emotions.
I still think that the cat is too bright, but that could be colour correction.
ty Vlad! going to check the texture to make it less bright
Is it bad that I wanted to see Roshan swat that cat out of the air like a fly? I think it's a little extreme the courier going after the big fella, but it's a well pieced together video nonetheless.
I thought you would make the bird catch the cat and make the last scene with them as a flying courier flying over Rosh and delivering the items somehow, would make more sense.
Anyway, I like the camera takes and the pace of the video, just a bit more polish and a better resolution to the Roshan scene and it will be fine.
ty! i will check the cameras focal planes, i think that scene is just on roshan and not on the courier. going to change that
By resolution I meant how the scene would be resolved, that is, what will happen after the cat jumps towards Roshan, I wasn't referring to the quality of the image
I think that it's cool, but the fact that you imply that he's fighting Roshan doesn't make much sense..I'd think it would confuse people more than anything. Also what Vlad said about the beginning, 15 seconds is too long.
Here, have a promo pic i quickly did from your image. Your masking skills suck, there's blue stuff left everywhere
I can say the same about your ani... oh Id rather not...
This new promo image you made, while put together nicely, is unimaginative, boring, and over saturated. I'd like to see his image with your polish. Why are you so aggressive today? Also, when are you going to unblock me from steam?
Hi all, I've been getting a lot of feedback from the workshop about the colour contrast between the green armour and the maroon reds of the cloth sections. I initially picked these colours because they were complements, and then added the brighter green for the emissives, and because yellow green works as a split complementary harmony to the initial maroon colour. Because changing the colours is a simple adjustment I was wondering what peoples opinions were. Do you that the colours are too clashing?
In my opinion, I feel like Im looking at two different sets. I also think the cloth garb works better, although both look pretty solid overall. The only thing I'm unsure about is the weapon, it looks way to frail to be a mace for void.
Wat? There's literally pieces of the original background (the "green screen" he used for rendering) left between the wings, the aggression is only in your imagination
Wat? There's literally pieces of the original background (the "green screen" he used for rendering) left between the wings, the aggression is only in your imagination
Why would i do that?
The better question is why would you block me? Last I checked we're all friends here, except one.
Well, for one thing it could be because you say stuff like "we're all friends here, except one." Even though this really has absolutely nothing to do with me.
The better question is why would you block me? Last I checked we're all friends here, except one.
This exact attitude is the reason enough. Why would i want you going around and trying to drop some sick burns on me for whatever reason?
That's a bit "unprofessional" don't you think? Unlike the rest of the good polycounters who don't provoke heating up the discussion and talk about the stuff we're all here you don't seems to hesitate in bringing your thoughts about the matters you're not really "in".
I do not approve hypocrisy and find your attitude disgusting, it would've been kinda okayish from someone who's doing some really amazing stuff, but coming from you it only adds the grotesque.
Note the attitude coming from everyone else, people are happy to hear opinions even if they're not what they want to hear and provide guidelines for those who want it. There's prevailing "professional" attitude, until you barge in and, as [FONT="]Insaneophobia[/FONT] pointed out
say stuff like "we're all friends here, except one."
Which kind of contradicts the advice you gave out some page about (it's a sentence or two above calling me scummy in a matter you didn't bothered to research too).
You can question my critique style, debate the advices i give(which i've yet to see) or just tl;dr over the stuff i write but please refrain from trying to be passive-scoffing, it makes you look shallow and "unprofessional".
For those of you who made it this far, have this delicious Han Solo!
I think that about sums it up, does that answers your question? That's a rhetorical question, don't bother to answer because i think i'll try that "ignore list" function all forums provide and save myself, and everyone around, from blowing up this useless argument. Cheers!
This exact attitude is the reason enough. Why would i want you going around and trying to drop some sick burns on me for whatever reason?
That's a bit "unprofessional" don't you think? Unlike the rest of the good polycounters who don't provoke heating up the discussion and talk about the stuff we're all here you don't seems to hesitate in bringing your thoughts about the matters you're not really "in".
I do not approve hypocrisy and find your attitude disgusting, it would've been kinda okayish from someone who's doing some really amazing stuff, but coming from you it only adds the grotesque.
Note the attitude coming from everyone else, people are happy to hear opinions even if they're not what they want to hear and provide guidelines for those who want it. There's prevailing "professional" attitude, until you barge in and, as [FONT="]Insaneophobia[/FONT] pointed out
Which kind of contradicts the advice you gave out some page about (it's a sentence or two above calling me scummy in a matter you didn't bothered to research too).
You can question my critique style, debate the advices i give(which i've yet to see) or just tl;dr over the stuff i write but please refrain from trying to be passive-scoffing, it makes you look shallow and "unprofessional".
For those of you who made it this far, have this delicious Han Solo!
I think that about sums it up, does that answers your question? That's a rhetorical question, don't bother to answer because i think i'll try that "ignore list" function all forums provide and save myself, and everyone around, from blowing up this useless argument. Cheers!
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I don't want to go any further with this since these types of arguments are pointless. But your sheer lack of respect toward anyone is astonishing. Call the way I talk unprofessional, but if someone gives an honest critique I won't turn around and call their opinions 'dumb' or lower their intelligence by calling them stupid. Going around and taking concept from someone, creating it, and uploading it to the workshop without getting any permissions is probably one of, if not the lowest things someone can do. Especially when it's clear it was jab at the person you targeted. Like I said, call me unprofessional all you want, but coming from you, your opinion is instantly invalidated based off your past history. I have nothing else to say to you, you're impossible to talk to and you treat everyone as if they're beneath you. You're a real piece of work.
I apologize to the rest of polycount for such a silly argument, but there is only so much I can take from someone like Vlad. I'll talk to Vidotto and see if he can delete these posts.*shrug*
Has someone posted the LoDs/Texture requirements for CK yet?
I remember seeing the higher ones a long time ago on Cyborgmatt's blog, but didn't see the lower.
Oh boy, a letter from Steam Support, let's see what's in there!
Thank you for your Steam Workshop Contribution Bottom Watcher.
Unfortunately, for various reasons, the developers of "Dota 2" had to flag it as "incompatible", so it cannot be used within "Dota 2".
By resolution I meant how the scene would be resolved, that is, what will happen after the cat jumps towards Roshan, I wasn't referring to the quality of the image
I think that it's cool, but the fact that you imply that he's fighting Roshan doesn't make much sense..I'd think it would confuse people more than anything. Also what Vlad said about the beginning, 15 seconds is too long.
ah, im trying to make something like an movie trailer, you have some texts on the begging and an slow pace to set the mood and contrast with what is going to follow
then some really crazy things happening and an end that let you thinking about the conclusion
makes sense? its more like a trailer then a short movie
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I know you recognize this background, but I think edited enough, so legally I did nothing wrong...right?
As Bronto said, morality and legality are two very different things, and I don't know why you are so sure that it isn't illegal.
A good work doesn't worth to be put in risk for something like this.
If this is creating a discussion here, let's just imagine...what if the set gets approved? Will the owner of that artwork receive his part on the revenue?
Does it really worth the risk...for Valve?
So that's why you can have parody art which obviously takes something like monolisa and change it up to give a different perspective.
But I'm sure I have seen that exact same BG image (not the blue ice one) somewhere on deviant art that is all. Who knows, maybe mihal did it and put it on deviant art
Now thats different, if someone else made that edited piece then thats a whole other story! I've heard that percent thing as well, but I heard 20%, and to be honest, I wouldn't really trust it considering its not mentioned anywhere to my knowledge. Hopefully we can get some clarification from Mihal when he responds.
Yeah I was taught the same thing (although I remember it being less than 80%, not sure). The problem is that it's such a subjective scale it's hard to measure percentages for this kind of thing - can you just crop 20% of an artwork and consider it your own?
As a general rule of thumb I just use all of my own work - that way you never have to worry about anything like this.
Here, have a promo pic i quickly did from your image. Your masking skills suck, there's blue stuff left everywhere
Ouch! that is amazing =] great work!
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guys, i would like some feedback on this wip video
an suggestions on how to improve it? its a courier im reworking
the extreme closeup in the end is just to have some fade to the end texts =]
[ame="
thanks
Plane drafts on the owl wings.
The scenario is basically someone sacrificing the courier to the Roshan. bg ff plz
Kawaii stare at the camera at the end. It worked in shrek, but the courier is not so rich on the emotions.
I still think that the cat is too bright, but that could be colour correction.
I thought you would make the bird catch the cat and make the last scene with them as a flying courier flying over Rosh and delivering the items somehow, would make more sense.
Anyway, I like the camera takes and the pace of the video, just a bit more polish and a better resolution to the Roshan scene and it will be fine.
Overexposed.
BG is now in a deep mix with the character.
Low contrast.
...awesome set )
Thank you for the feedback:)
Yeah, I actually expected the cat to jump over Rosh in order to make his delivery, it doesn't really make much sense to have the courier fight him! Great video otherwise, though!
Also, I don't know if it's a good idea to take Workshop advices too seriously.
True. I think that people making a lot of suggestions there. But if all those suggestions are related to a similar acpect it's a good motive to may be realy change something.
My Rubick Set is finally finished, collection page splash screen is here. Making a collection page now.
Keen eye, sir! But, no, it's a derived version of the Pipe of Insight.
Collection page is here:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=145036810
Please feel free to vote up if you like it, thanks!
ty Vlad! going to check the texture to make it less bright
everyone kills couriers, my not on a epic way =]
hahah i want that too =]
ty! i will check the cameras focal planes, i think that scene is just on roshan and not on the courier. going to change that
By resolution I meant how the scene would be resolved, that is, what will happen after the cat jumps towards Roshan, I wasn't referring to the quality of the image
I think that it's cool, but the fact that you imply that he's fighting Roshan doesn't make much sense..I'd think it would confuse people more than anything. Also what Vlad said about the beginning, 15 seconds is too long.
I can say the same about your ani... oh Id rather not...
This new promo image you made, while put together nicely, is unimaginative, boring, and over saturated. I'd like to see his image with your polish. Why are you so aggressive today? Also, when are you going to unblock me from steam?
In my opinion, I feel like Im looking at two different sets. I also think the cloth garb works better, although both look pretty solid overall. The only thing I'm unsure about is the weapon, it looks way to frail to be a mace for void.
I'm getting that notion too, but it's a great set non-the-less.
Why would i do that?
The better question is why would you block me? Last I checked we're all friends here, except one.
That's a bit "unprofessional" don't you think? Unlike the rest of the good polycounters who don't provoke heating up the discussion and talk about the stuff we're all here you don't seems to hesitate in bringing your thoughts about the matters you're not really "in".
I do not approve hypocrisy and find your attitude disgusting, it would've been kinda okayish from someone who's doing some really amazing stuff, but coming from you it only adds the grotesque.
Note the attitude coming from everyone else, people are happy to hear opinions even if they're not what they want to hear and provide guidelines for those who want it. There's prevailing "professional" attitude, until you barge in and, as [FONT="]Insaneophobia[/FONT] pointed out Which kind of contradicts the advice you gave out some page about (it's a sentence or two above calling me scummy in a matter you didn't bothered to research too).
You can question my critique style, debate the advices i give(which i've yet to see) or just tl;dr over the stuff i write but please refrain from trying to be passive-scoffing, it makes you look shallow and "unprofessional".
For those of you who made it this far, have this delicious Han Solo!
I think that about sums it up, does that answers your question? That's a rhetorical question, don't bother to answer because i think i'll try that "ignore list" function all forums provide and save myself, and everyone around, from blowing up this useless argument. Cheers!
I don't want to go any further with this since these types of arguments are pointless. But your sheer lack of respect toward anyone is astonishing. Call the way I talk unprofessional, but if someone gives an honest critique I won't turn around and call their opinions 'dumb' or lower their intelligence by calling them stupid. Going around and taking concept from someone, creating it, and uploading it to the workshop without getting any permissions is probably one of, if not the lowest things someone can do. Especially when it's clear it was jab at the person you targeted. Like I said, call me unprofessional all you want, but coming from you, your opinion is instantly invalidated based off your past history. I have nothing else to say to you, you're impossible to talk to and you treat everyone as if they're beneath you. You're a real piece of work.
I apologize to the rest of polycount for such a silly argument, but there is only so much I can take from someone like Vlad. I'll talk to Vidotto and see if he can delete these posts.*shrug*
Tnx for the pic , I was going to remake the background just to be safe anyway
here is the new pic + new icons which imo looks nicer indeed.
workshop link : http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198026621056/myworkshopfiles/?appid=570
tnx for the feedback guys .
cheers
I remember seeing the higher ones a long time ago on Cyborgmatt's blog, but didn't see the lower.
there's some (sticky) white stuff at the bottom of the staff from the background. May i ask you how you're cutting out the models?
famous Bronto! =]
Yeah man, those warbanners are really nice =]
btw, who is igddota? this is official or just a suggestion he made?
ah, im trying to make something like an movie trailer, you have some texts on the begging and an slow pace to set the mood and contrast with what is going to follow
then some really crazy things happening and an end that let you thinking about the conclusion
makes sense? its more like a trailer then a short movie
Wow, I'm jealous. I follow their stuff nearly religiously. I'll tune in.
wip texture
O.o Isn't that ward in the game ?!
@Bronto
Nice, be sure to drop a link here when it ships!
@Hawt
Cool design, I feel like the edge wear&tear is a bit too much in the middle of the helmet but otherwise it's lookin fiiiine