model has been scrapped due to terrible rigging conditions
and just a general dislike of the design
I'm working on a Medusa set... care to share your "terrible rigging conditions"?
Something about the model itself, or with your additions specifically?
Hi, need to post to get confirmed so i'll start off with an introduction!
been watching blender tutorials and learning how everything works. probably somewhere in between noob and moderate right now.
have a work in progress however i was wondering if someone post their work to this site what prevents someone else from stealing their idea?
so if i post my work, and someone else takes the idea and submits it , would i just send steam a screen shot or link of what i posted?
I've been posting work on these forums for about eight months now, I have never see a single person ever steal someones work. It never happens, don`t worry about it. Besides we're all friends here.
I'm working on a Medusa set... care to share your "terrible rigging conditions"?
Something about the model itself, or with your additions specifically?
Thanks!
deciding on consistent colours or even texture design is just generally difficult
My main problem with the rigging was the around the skirt (which was probably just a problem with the wireframe) and the shoulder pads which would clip with the shawl and arms.
Anyway I've started on something a bit simpler
Hey guys, been awhile (been busy with other things), was hoping I could get a second opinion about if the coloration on my armor piece is too light. Personally, I think it might be (as this is without normals yet), but it follows with his original coloration mapping.
Hey guys, been awhile (been busy with other things), was hoping I could get a second opinion about if the coloration on my armor piece is too light. Personally, I think it might be (as this is without normals yet), but it follows with his original coloration mapping.
The part of your armor that's supposed to be the darkest is actually way brighter than the wings base. The runes are smudgy, you may want to trade them for bigger, sherper runes, or remove them completely. And the window in the back is lowpoly for the rest of the armor. Of, and there's a window between the wings and your armor.
The part of your armor that's supposed to be the darkest is actually way brighter than the wings base. The runes are smudgy, you may want to trade them for bigger, sherper runes, or remove them completely. And the window in the back is lowpoly for the rest of the armor. Of, and there's a window between the wings and your armor.
Thought as much, so my responses:
I'm guessing you're referring to the back-arch runes and the tail runes. I could make the tail ones thinner (less smudge), but could I do varying levels of effect on the back arch to make it look a little better? (as in, is the design itself bad, or just the lack of variation?)
Window between wings exists because I have yet to think of a way that works for both the original wings and my new ones. I left it open because that was the easiest way that worked for both.
I'll give it a little touch up and have normals done by next time. Thank you.
Thumbs'ed up But you really gotta make your preview icons a bit more appealing! People on the Workshop have very, VERY short attention spans so if it doesn't stand out immediately, it wont get seen ^^
That is an awesome looking set, but I'm with Spud, those preview images won't be pulling people in. I look very forward to seeing that in game next week!
Needs a border and a few overlays on the backgrounds of the image to warrant success for the item..The set looks really good but you should address it, stat!
Mocked up a very quick and dirty example of what type of a difference a border can make in a workshop..As the other guys said, your item can gets lost if it doesn't pop.
Great set and grats on the finish.. That background image you have in your presentation picture is familiar? Where did you get it? remember not to use other peoples work in your art, even for presentation stuff.
Great set and grats on the finish.. That background image you have in your presentation picture is familiar? Where did you get it? remember not to use other peoples work in your art, even for presentation stuff.
The rocks and the castle are pretty similar to this image. @mihalceanu: Unless this illustration is yours, I'd recommend to change it asap.
I think it's been edited enough to warrant its use. I don't see a problem here.
I don't think there is such a thing as "edited enough" in this case. Someone made this illustration and Im assuming he/she didn't give the permission to be edited.
I'd be pretty upset if someone used and edited my arts without my consent.
Also, if you use mihalceanu art to search for similar images in google, the second result is the original illustration, so clearly it isn't "edited enough".
Agreed, if not for the picture, it would take a while to make it, even if only the edited part.
So either it is a picture of your making/you have permission to use it or you shouldn't use it at all, because benefiting from other people's works without even giving them credit is wrong, period.
Anyway, the set looks awesome, you don't need to resort to that for it to stand out.
Also, it would be great to see the thumbnails match the item's quality.
I don't think there is such a thing as "edited enough" in this case. Someone made this illustration and Im assuming he/she didn't give the permission to be edited.
I'd be pretty upset if someone used and edited my arts without my consent.
Also, if you use mihalceanu art to search for similar images in google, the second result is the original illustration, so clearly it isn't "edited enough".
@Andrew: I'm not trying to be rude here and what I did now is clearly wrong, but that's my point:
I know you recognize this background, but I think edited enough, so legally I did nothing wrong...right?
As Bronto said, morality and legality are two very different things, and I don't know why you are so sure that it isn't illegal.
Last time I consulted one of my art teachers about this, the rule of thumb is that if a copyrighted work is edited enough not to be recognizable, it's okay to use. Now what's 'recognizable' may be different for those of us frequenting art communities, so the assumption is that the general public wouldn't recognize it.
Well, since legality is a very complicated thing to discuss about, I'd just remove that bg.
A good work doesn't worth to be put in risk for something like this.
If this is creating a discussion here, let's just imagine...what if the set gets approved? Will the owner of that artwork receive his part on the revenue?
Well I remember being taught in high school that an 80% change to an art piece isnt considered copyright ( i think that might only apply to australia though)
So that's why you can have parody art which obviously takes something like monolisa and change it up to give a different perspective.
But I'm sure I have seen that exact same BG image (not the blue ice one) somewhere on deviant art that is all. Who knows, maybe mihal did it and put it on deviant art
Well I remember being taught in high school that an 80% change to an art piece isnt considered copyright ( i think that might only apply to australia though)
So that's why you can have parody art which obviously takes something like monolisa and change it up to give a different perspective.
But I'm sure I have seen that exact same BG image (not the blue ice one) somewhere on deviant art that is all. Who knows, maybe mihal did it and put it on deviant art
Now thats different, if someone else made that edited piece then thats a whole other story! I've heard that percent thing as well, but I heard 20%, and to be honest, I wouldn't really trust it considering its not mentioned anywhere to my knowledge. Hopefully we can get some clarification from Mihal when he responds.
Well I remember being taught in high school that an 80% change to an art piece isnt considered copyright ( i think that might only apply to australia though)
Yeah I was taught the same thing (although I remember it being less than 80%, not sure). The problem is that it's such a subjective scale it's hard to measure percentages for this kind of thing - can you just crop 20% of an artwork and consider it your own?
As a general rule of thumb I just use all of my own work - that way you never have to worry about anything like this.
Well, since legality is a very complicated thing to discuss about, I'd just remove that bg.
A good work doesn't worth to be put in risk for something like this.
If this is creating a discussion here, let's just imagine...what if the set gets approved? Will the owner of that artwork receive his part on the revenue?
Does it really worth the risk...for Valve?
Why would you think that they'll take that image at all? That's promo imgae for his collection, i think you can dig up some fair-non-commercial use rule about it. If you're that concerned about it, just leave a developers comment saying that if they're going to use the image, it's not yours and they should replace it.
Here, have a promo pic i quickly did from your image. Your masking skills suck, there's blue stuff left everywhere
guys, i would like some feedback on this wip video
thanks
15 seconds of nothing.
Plane drafts on the owl wings.
The scenario is basically someone sacrificing the courier to the Roshan. bg ff plz
Kawaii stare at the camera at the end. It worked in shrek, but the courier is not so rich on the emotions.
I still think that the cat is too bright, but that could be colour correction.
Is it bad that I wanted to see Roshan swat that cat out of the air like a fly? I think it's a little extreme the courier going after the big fella, but it's a well pieced together video nonetheless.
I thought you would make the bird catch the cat and make the last scene with them as a flying courier flying over Rosh and delivering the items somehow, would make more sense.
Anyway, I like the camera takes and the pace of the video, just a bit more polish and a better resolution to the Roshan scene and it will be fine.
Why would you think that they'll take that image at all? That's promo imgae for his collection, i think you can dig up some fair-non-commercial use rule about it. If you're that concerned about it, just leave a developers comment saying that if they're going to use the image, it's not yours and they should replace it.
Here, have a promo pic i quickly did from your image. Your masking skills suck, there's blue stuff left everywhere
Overexposed.
BG is now in a deep mix with the character.
Low contrast.
...awesome set )
Glad you like the set guys ; Indeed I used part of that ilustration (composed with several other pictures ) ; Its definetly not over 80% alterated and I understand the issues that it brings with , , so I will remake the background . And will work on the icons allso .
I thought you would make the bird catch the cat and make the last scene with them as a flying courier flying over Rosh and delivering the items somehow, would make more sense.
Anyway, I like the camera takes and the pace of the video, just a bit more polish and a better resolution to the Roshan scene and it will be fine.
Yeah, I actually expected the cat to jump over Rosh in order to make his delivery, it doesn't really make much sense to have the courier fight him! Great video otherwise, though!
Hi all, I've been getting a lot of feedback from the workshop about the colour contrast between the green armour and the maroon reds of the cloth sections. I initially picked these colours because they were complements, and then added the brighter green for the emissives, and because yellow green works as a split complementary harmony to the initial maroon colour. Because changing the colours is a simple adjustment I was wondering what peoples opinions were. Do you that the colours are too clashing?
Also, I don't know if it's a good idea to take Workshop advices too seriously.
True. I think that people making a lot of suggestions there. But if all those suggestions are related to a similar acpect it's a good motive to may be realy change something.
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I'm working on a Medusa set... care to share your "terrible rigging conditions"?
Something about the model itself, or with your additions specifically?
Thanks!
Aaaaaand bookmarked!
I've been posting work on these forums for about eight months now, I have never see a single person ever steal someones work. It never happens, don`t worry about it. Besides we're all friends here.
deciding on consistent colours or even texture design is just generally difficult
My main problem with the rigging was the around the skirt (which was probably just a problem with the wireframe) and the shoulder pads which would clip with the shawl and arms.
Anyway I've started on something a bit simpler
Watch. Study. Learn.
texturing armour is harder than I thought
can't get any good ideas
Here is my texture for clinkz:
Hot! We need more Darksiders influenced gear in the shop! Thumbs up from me!
Dayum! Nice looking set!:poly142:
Also, great work on this one, Kraken. Not much a fan of the skull face in the quiver, though.
Thought as much, so my responses:
I'm guessing you're referring to the back-arch runes and the tail runes. I could make the tail ones thinner (less smudge), but could I do varying levels of effect on the back arch to make it look a little better? (as in, is the design itself bad, or just the lack of variation?)
Window between wings exists because I have yet to think of a way that works for both the original wings and my new ones. I left it open because that was the easiest way that worked for both.
I'll give it a little touch up and have normals done by next time. Thank you.
workshop link
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=144920572
cheers
That is an awesome looking set, but I'm with Spud, those preview images won't be pulling people in. I look very forward to seeing that in game next week!
Needs a border and a few overlays on the backgrounds of the image to warrant success for the item..The set looks really good but you should address it, stat!
Mocked up a very quick and dirty example of what type of a difference a border can make in a workshop..As the other guys said, your item can gets lost if it doesn't pop.
The rocks and the castle are pretty similar to this image.
@mihalceanu: Unless this illustration is yours, I'd recommend to change it asap.
Awesome set by the way
sorry guys, i deleted the post with that site. No scams here plz =]
I think it's been edited enough to warrant its use. I don't see a problem here.
I don't think there is such a thing as "edited enough" in this case. Someone made this illustration and Im assuming he/she didn't give the permission to be edited.
I'd be pretty upset if someone used and edited my arts without my consent.
Also, if you use mihalceanu art to search for similar images in google, the second result is the original illustration, so clearly it isn't "edited enough".
So either it is a picture of your making/you have permission to use it or you shouldn't use it at all, because benefiting from other people's works without even giving them credit is wrong, period.
Anyway, the set looks awesome, you don't need to resort to that for it to stand out.
Also, it would be great to see the thumbnails match the item's quality.
Legally, he did nothing wrong. :thumbup:
I know you recognize this background, but I think edited enough, so legally I did nothing wrong...right?
As Bronto said, morality and legality are two very different things, and I don't know why you are so sure that it isn't illegal.
A good work doesn't worth to be put in risk for something like this.
If this is creating a discussion here, let's just imagine...what if the set gets approved? Will the owner of that artwork receive his part on the revenue?
Does it really worth the risk...for Valve?
So that's why you can have parody art which obviously takes something like monolisa and change it up to give a different perspective.
But I'm sure I have seen that exact same BG image (not the blue ice one) somewhere on deviant art that is all. Who knows, maybe mihal did it and put it on deviant art
Now thats different, if someone else made that edited piece then thats a whole other story! I've heard that percent thing as well, but I heard 20%, and to be honest, I wouldn't really trust it considering its not mentioned anywhere to my knowledge. Hopefully we can get some clarification from Mihal when he responds.
Yeah I was taught the same thing (although I remember it being less than 80%, not sure). The problem is that it's such a subjective scale it's hard to measure percentages for this kind of thing - can you just crop 20% of an artwork and consider it your own?
As a general rule of thumb I just use all of my own work - that way you never have to worry about anything like this.
Here, have a promo pic i quickly did from your image. Your masking skills suck, there's blue stuff left everywhere
Ouch! that is amazing =] great work!
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guys, i would like some feedback on this wip video
an suggestions on how to improve it? its a courier im reworking
the extreme closeup in the end is just to have some fade to the end texts =]
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thanks
Plane drafts on the owl wings.
The scenario is basically someone sacrificing the courier to the Roshan. bg ff plz
Kawaii stare at the camera at the end. It worked in shrek, but the courier is not so rich on the emotions.
I still think that the cat is too bright, but that could be colour correction.
I thought you would make the bird catch the cat and make the last scene with them as a flying courier flying over Rosh and delivering the items somehow, would make more sense.
Anyway, I like the camera takes and the pace of the video, just a bit more polish and a better resolution to the Roshan scene and it will be fine.
Overexposed.
BG is now in a deep mix with the character.
Low contrast.
...awesome set )
Thank you for the feedback:)
Yeah, I actually expected the cat to jump over Rosh in order to make his delivery, it doesn't really make much sense to have the courier fight him! Great video otherwise, though!
Also, I don't know if it's a good idea to take Workshop advices too seriously.
True. I think that people making a lot of suggestions there. But if all those suggestions are related to a similar acpect it's a good motive to may be realy change something.
My Rubick Set is finally finished, collection page splash screen is here. Making a collection page now.