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All heroes have alpha's now? How did I miss this? Please do tell what I need to do to get alpha's in?
I know they said at one point they were working on enabling alphas for all the heroes but I don't know where they are in that process... Can anybody confirm/deny?
I tested with huskar and maiden, and they have alpha enabled, they didnt some time ago, so maybe they enabled it already in all heroes, is easy to test anyways.
I know they said at one point they were working on enabling alphas for all the heroes but I don't know where they are in that process... Can anybody confirm/deny?
Do a Find in Files in Notepad++ for all the VMTs in the heroes folder, look for "$alphatest 1" and that will show you all the vmts with alpha enabled.
I know it was added for Queen of Pain shortly after they said they were adding alpha to heroes. She didn't have it before.
Well, seems your question has more to do with basic UV mapping than anything specific to Dota 2.
All you got to do is:
1-Start your mesh making sure its mid point X is set to 0;
2-Delete everything in one side of the X axis and add the 'Mirror' modifier;
3-After done editing, add seams, unwrap your mesh and make all the adjustments in the UV map;
4-Hit 'Apply' in the the mirror modifier tab, so the mirrored part becomes an editable part of the mesh, thus you'll have a perfectly mirrored UV map, as both sides will have the exact same position in the UV map.
Again, always check if your mid vertexes are all zeroed in the X axis to prevent mid vertexes not joining properly.
Other important thing to bear in mind is that you can't have overlapped UV maps when baking, thus before baking, make a version especially for baking saving it to other blender file.
Then you can proceed to:
1-Select half the mesh and open the UV editor, so it will appear only that half in the UV map for you to select;
2-Move it to a position out of the rendering space, so you'll have no problems baking the AO and the normalmaps.
Hope this helps.
You can't use overlapping UVs for baking textures? This is news to me. Is this using xNormal? What problems would overlapping UVs cause? I ask because I have used overlapping UVs without any problem as far as I can tell but I have probably missed something somewhere...
You can't use overlapping UVs for baking textures? This is news to me. Is this using xNormal? What problems would overlapping UVs cause? I ask because I have used overlapping UVs without any problem as far as I can tell but I have probably missed something somewhere...
Well, a while ago I tried to bake normalmaps with stuff overlapped in Blender, and all I got was a f*cked up normalmap with all sorts of colors xD
Perhaps they already fixed that in more recent versions, or perhaps I was doing something wrong.
What I know is that after a lot of hair pulling, forum searching and menu browsing, I decided to do things this way, it's simple and it works pretty well with my pipeline.
It just left me burned because it was a big annoyance for me at the time, it's a good idea to tinker around with it again, as I may be developing a bad routine because of it.
I seem to have no problems when baking with overlapping UVs in xNormal. It may just be different from software to software, but the safer method is clearly to have non-overlapping UVs.
Are those of you having issues with overlapped UV's moving the duplicate UV's once over in the UV space?
Visible UV space runs 0-1. You want to simply move any single instance of an overlapping island 1 UV unit over so it is still in the same coordinates when the game reads it, but the baker will only see the island in the 0-1 space and bake properly.
Are those of you having issues with overlapped UV's moving the duplicate UV's once over in the UV space?
Visible UV space runs 0-1. You want to simply move any single instance of an overlapping island 1 UV unit over so it is still in the same coordinates when the game reads it, but the baker will only see the island in the 0-1 space and bake properly.
I have been playing it safe with overlapping UV's, and re aligning them in the 0-1 UV space due to Dota 2 combining a heros/items textures at some point. See quote below from the requirements page
"In general, you can push an item's UVs to the texture borders closer than usual because hero's and item's textures all added together in-engine."
Too add to this and something i initially missed is the reuirments page goes on to say
"To achieve better texture details you can overlap UVs on symmetrical or repeating parts of the model but do not weld them through. Internally we offset overlapping UVs +1 in U direction"
So totally cool to leave them offset
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how this works? are the textures combined into some form of atlas? or?
Hey Divonino! Cool idea! I think its looking a bit fragile though. I'd love to see it as chunky as the glyph he has in game
I think I've finished texturing this old thing.
Its Dvonio! that sounds like danonino a brand mark in spain haha :P
well, its at the same proportions as the ingame one, but I think with better texturing, if you see the one from tusk you will see he has weird unwrap and textures, no normal and so xD, so I didnt want to make like the one ingame :P, the particle from the attack appears from the center ingame.
That maple leaf belt looks amazing and i prefer the green colors over the yellow/orange colors that you had before. But it seems more like summer than autumn now though.
I just finished the high poly of this skywrath staff:
Hello everyone! I have a question. When you treat the subject has a lot of polygons (in zbrush). But Dota 2 takes only 400. How do you optimize a model?
wow after seeing alot of items here really impress me.
can I asking for some cosmetic Item here? or what forum I need to go for request?
I really want someone to create new sven set.
well I really like this concecpt though (even its just for joke from the maker)
may be Its not good for me for asking this
but I really hope new sven now with higher design than current one
(its looks plain when comparing to other heroes)
btw sorry for my bad english
and sorry I dont know who making picture above so I cant give him a credit.(found its by googles)
Hello everyone! I have a question. When you treat the subject has a lot of polygons (in zbrush). But Dota 2 takes only 400. How do you optimize a model?
Hello everyone! I have a question. When you treat the subject has a lot of polygons (in zbrush). But Dota 2 takes only 400. How do you optimize a model?
wow after seeing alot of items here really impress me.
can I asking for some cosmetic Item here? or what forum I need to go for request?
I really want someone to create new sven set.
well I really like this concecpt though (even its just for joke from the maker)
may be Its not good for asking this
but I really hope new sven now with higher design than current one
(its looks plain when comparing to other heroes)
btw sorry for my bad english
and sorry I dont know who making picture above so I cant give him a credit.(found its by googles)
wow after seeing alot of items here really impress me.
can I asking for some cosmetic Item here? or what forum I need to go for request?
I really want someone to create new sven set.
well I really like this concecpt though (even its just for joke from the maker)
may be Its not good for me for asking this
but I really hope new sven now with higher design than current one
(its looks plain when comparing to other heroes)
btw sorry for my bad english
and sorry I dont know who making picture above so I cant give him a credit.(found its by googles)
wow after seeing alot of items here really impress me.
can I asking for some cosmetic Item here? or what forum I need to go for request?
I really want someone to create new sven set.
well I really like this concecpt though (even its just for joke from the maker)
may be Its not good for me for asking this
but I really hope new sven now with higher design than current one
(its looks plain when comparing to other heroes)
btw sorry for my bad english
and sorry I dont know who making picture above so I cant give him a credit.(found its by googles)
Mother of god, who made this set? Awesome stuff indeed!
No idea but I hope he sticks around, I'm absolutely floored by that set, it's fucking incredible.
It's bittersweet as I believe it completely blows my Ezalor set out of the water but hey, more incredible artists and incredible items for a game we all love? I can't complain.
As said by the guy who's made the majority of in game items for heroes and uses concepts without permission. Yep.
When did i used the concepts without permision? You may want to check your facts first.
majority of in game items
Man, i wish.
So what are you trying to say? That it takes no fantasy to turn 30x100 icon into a whole model? Or are you against reinforcing the artstyle valve created by using their own concepts in a natural way?
Oh wait, what am i saying, let's take a look at theese bad boys?
So are you against ingame items or not, i'm confused?
Or these awesome, totally not recycled hella sweet guys
The thing is, it's still a lazy concept, disregarding what stuff i do. And let's face it, why should it matter who this comes from, it's still a tusk sigil on a stick, and the original had some sweet frosty texture on it, way better than this one.
Welp, i guess it strucks a nerve if you're calling names instead of trying to spice up ze model with some sexy fur, maybe a couple of ice crystal, dropping a shade of gold to make the item unique to the character, possibly telling a story, personalizing an item, instead of doing one just for the sake of doing one. Maybe that's too much to ask, eh
Of course I am not against those items, I just find it funny you are saying it's lazy when you do exactly the same.
Don't get me wrong, not trying to be rude against you or anything, it's just a little model we did cause we liked the idea, if you think it could have used something more say so instead of going "Lol its lazy"
spice up ze model with some sexy fur, maybe a couple of ice crystal, dropping a shade of gold to make the item unique to the character, possibly telling a story, personalizing an item, instead of doing one just for the sake of doing one.
[...] if you think it could have used something more say so instead of going "Lol its lazy"
If you see something that bugs you about an item, call the artist out on it but do so respectfully. On the flip side, don't be offended by critique regardless if it's valid or invalid. We're all here to help each other be better artists and make better items!
Don't you guys see it, he is never gonna change, he does the same and the same, he does it because he knows he is gonna be subject of discussion. He is the major troll here. How many times have this forums been filled with this kind of things.
Not very often. And I think we should keep it that way. Lets all act like normal human beings and don't go around calling people major trolls when they may just have overreacted or misinterpreted. Pointing fingers gets us nowhere, constructive feedback and honest critique does.
BRING THE HATE, I'm just kidding, lol! On a serious note, I sense a lot of hate here. Let's act as respectful people, huh? Good. No popularity contest here, but if you have to argue (Though, personally it's hilarious to me) do it over a PM. Just keeping the peace. Oh, don't feed trolls.
Look guys...Vlad sucks at critique. He's abrasive and blunt to a fault. He's still a functional member of the community, not a troll, and usually makes valid points even if they're not terribly well articulated.
I have yet to see anybody blatantly rip off a concept (with one exception on a PA weapon), at least nobody on polycount. I'm frankly getting tired of the "you ripped my idea off" comments...of the mud slinging. This is a competitive scene. It's a game we're all playing. Show some sportsmanship. If Vlad wants to be dennis rodman you need to step up and be micheal jordan. Don't bite when he goads you, try to find the critique in his comments and learn something to make yourself better. At the end of the day Vlad, and everybody else here, is a talented artist trying to improve their craft by interacting with a community of likeminded individuals. Take Vlad with a grain of salt, and quit pointing fingers at eachother. No plagiarism will be tolerated on Polycount - the community will ALWAYS come together against any real offense, so STOP slinging the damn accusations around just to follow it up with a "i was just kidding, bro".
There has not been nearly enough art in the last few posts on this thread.
looks amazing. It's probably a bit late for critique...but i'd love to see a little bit more color difference between the face and the mane. Nitpick though. Beautiful work.
At the end of the day every submitted item will be judged only by Valve, so know your value and worry only about it. Comments here or even on workshop doesn't matter anyway Don't let arguing take you away from doing stuff.
That's a little suggestion for all
At the end of the day every submitted item will be judged only by Valve, so know your value and worry only about it. Comments here or even on workshop doesn't matter anyway Don't let arguing take you away from doing stuff.
That's a little suggestion for all
Looks great, Drywall! One critique though if you don't mind: The lion looks a little depressed. I think it's his eyes, they could probably be tweaked to look a little more stern. It's only a minor nitpick though!
more edge detail and wear - especially on the metal, but along the grooves in the blue portions as well. Could use some ornamentation on the gray metal i think, also.
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I know they said at one point they were working on enabling alphas for all the heroes but I don't know where they are in that process... Can anybody confirm/deny?
Do a Find in Files in Notepad++ for all the VMTs in the heroes folder, look for "$alphatest 1" and that will show you all the vmts with alpha enabled.
I know it was added for Queen of Pain shortly after they said they were adding alpha to heroes. She didn't have it before.
You can't use overlapping UVs for baking textures? This is news to me. Is this using xNormal? What problems would overlapping UVs cause? I ask because I have used overlapping UVs without any problem as far as I can tell but I have probably missed something somewhere...
Well, a while ago I tried to bake normalmaps with stuff overlapped in Blender, and all I got was a f*cked up normalmap with all sorts of colors xD
Perhaps they already fixed that in more recent versions, or perhaps I was doing something wrong.
What I know is that after a lot of hair pulling, forum searching and menu browsing, I decided to do things this way, it's simple and it works pretty well with my pipeline.
It just left me burned because it was a big annoyance for me at the time, it's a good idea to tinker around with it again, as I may be developing a bad routine because of it.
Visible UV space runs 0-1. You want to simply move any single instance of an overlapping island 1 UV unit over so it is still in the same coordinates when the game reads it, but the baker will only see the island in the 0-1 space and bake properly.
If you're using Maya, download UV Deluxe, it helps soooo much!
I have been playing it safe with overlapping UV's, and re aligning them in the 0-1 UV space due to Dota 2 combining a heros/items textures at some point. See quote below from the requirements page
"In general, you can push an item's UVs to the texture borders closer than usual because hero's and item's textures all added together in-engine."
Too add to this and something i initially missed is the reuirments page goes on to say
"To achieve better texture details you can overlap UVs on symmetrical or repeating parts of the model but do not weld them through. Internally we offset overlapping UVs +1 in U direction"
So totally cool to leave them offset
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how this works? are the textures combined into some form of atlas? or?
I think I've finished texturing this old thing.
Its Dvonio! that sounds like danonino a brand mark in spain haha :P
well, its at the same proportions as the ingame one, but I think with better texturing, if you see the one from tusk you will see he has weird unwrap and textures, no normal and so xD, so I didnt want to make like the one ingame :P, the particle from the attack appears from the center ingame.
thanks for the comment
i love your texturing :poly142:
That maple leaf belt looks amazing and i prefer the green colors over the yellow/orange colors that you had before. But it seems more like summer than autumn now though.
I just finished the high poly of this skywrath staff:
Here is a link to worshop page:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=142089546
@Hawkseye: Great staff! Loved the piece at the center.
One more piece for Tusk finished! Texture by Zaphk
can I asking for some cosmetic Item here? or what forum I need to go for request?
I really want someone to create new sven set.
well I really like this concecpt though (even its just for joke from the maker)
may be Its not good for me for asking this
but I really hope new sven now with higher design than current one
(its looks plain when comparing to other heroes)
btw sorry for my bad english
and sorry I dont know who making picture above so I cant give him a credit.(found its by googles)
can I asking for some cosmetic Item here? or what forum I need to go for request?
I really want someone to create new sven set.
well I really like this concecpt though (even its just for joke from the maker)
may be Its not good for asking this
but I really hope new sven now with higher design than current one
(its looks plain when comparing to other heroes)
btw sorry for my bad english
and sorry I dont know who making picture above so I cant give him a credit.(found its by googles)
can I asking for some cosmetic Item here? or what forum I need to go for request?
I really want someone to create new sven set.
well I really like this concecpt though (even its just for joke from the maker)
may be Its not good for me for asking this
but I really hope new sven now with higher design than current one
(its looks plain when comparing to other heroes)
btw sorry for my bad english
and sorry I dont know who making picture above so I cant give him a credit.(found its by googles)
can I asking for some cosmetic Item here? or what forum I need to go for request?
I really want someone to create new sven set.
well I really like this concecpt though (even its just for joke from the maker)
may be Its not good for me for asking this
but I really hope new sven now with higher design than current one
(its looks plain when comparing to other heroes)
btw sorry for my bad english
and sorry I dont know who making picture above so I cant give him a credit.(found its by googles)
a little more progress on this concept. staff, colors and additional angles to come.
started blocking out the helmet in max already.
It's bittersweet as I believe it completely blows my Ezalor set out of the water but hey, more incredible artists and incredible items for a game we all love? I can't complain.
yep. This set will be in the 1st place soon and the rest of his 7 days.
Awesome little add-on. Nice one!
Man, i wish.
So what are you trying to say? That it takes no fantasy to turn 30x100 icon into a whole model? Or are you against reinforcing the artstyle valve created by using their own concepts in a natural way?
Oh wait, what am i saying, let's take a look at theese bad boys?
So are you against ingame items or not, i'm confused?
Or these awesome, totally not recycled hella sweet guys
The thing is, it's still a lazy concept, disregarding what stuff i do. And let's face it, why should it matter who this comes from, it's still a tusk sigil on a stick, and the original had some sweet frosty texture on it, way better than this one.
Welp, i guess it strucks a nerve if you're calling names instead of trying to spice up ze model with some sexy fur, maybe a couple of ice crystal, dropping a shade of gold to make the item unique to the character, possibly telling a story, personalizing an item, instead of doing one just for the sake of doing one. Maybe that's too much to ask, eh
Don't get me wrong, not trying to be rude against you or anything, it's just a little model we did cause we liked the idea, if you think it could have used something more say so instead of going "Lol its lazy"
^ this is still valid critique, ...
^ but lets leave out the ad hominem stuff, alright?
If you see something that bugs you about an item, call the artist out on it but do so respectfully. On the flip side, don't be offended by critique regardless if it's valid or invalid. We're all here to help each other be better artists and make better items!
I have yet to see anybody blatantly rip off a concept (with one exception on a PA weapon), at least nobody on polycount. I'm frankly getting tired of the "you ripped my idea off" comments...of the mud slinging. This is a competitive scene. It's a game we're all playing. Show some sportsmanship. If Vlad wants to be dennis rodman you need to step up and be micheal jordan. Don't bite when he goads you, try to find the critique in his comments and learn something to make yourself better. At the end of the day Vlad, and everybody else here, is a talented artist trying to improve their craft by interacting with a community of likeminded individuals. Take Vlad with a grain of salt, and quit pointing fingers at eachother. No plagiarism will be tolerated on Polycount - the community will ALWAYS come together against any real offense, so STOP slinging the damn accusations around just to follow it up with a "i was just kidding, bro".
There has not been nearly enough art in the last few posts on this thread.
--> WORKSHOP LINK! <--
And a video of it in-game!
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSXdveaNhY0"]Nightbloom - Dota 2 Mirana set - YouTube[/ame]
If you wanna see more details, and also textures, go to our thread
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119492
That's a little suggestion for all
looks a little bit flat. U need more depth and color variation imo. Need to see some ingame view to talk about the shape.
LOVE IT!!! THE NEXT HIT BABY