London Riots
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man its getting bad, riots kicking off all over the place. I live in leyton and apparently a few shops have been burned. I am not that far from walthamstow and tottenham hale where it all kicked off.
Hope things ease off in the next few days
It's even spread to birmingham:(
Hope things ease off in the next few days
It's even spread to birmingham:(
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Hope you stay safe mate.
It's pretty fucking pathetic really.
edit: rant removed
Then I found out about the riot in Birmingham
What kind of people attack fire fighters who are currently putting out a fire.
To me that's the equivalent of hijacking an ambulance with someone dying inside it >_>
sadly. That kinda thing has been happening for years. Usually dumb kids but this is a bit more serious, obviously.
I think it wont last very long. But who knows. Its obviously just gangs of looters that don't really have a political agenda. I'm in Newcastle and we had big riots here in the 90's. Hopefully it wont spread up to here. But it doesn't take a lot to rally a few groups of scum that want a new pair of Nike.
"David Cameron was on Monday night still refusing to cancel his family holiday in Tuscany, where he is embarking on a second week of tennis lessons at his rented villa"
and was like, wtf??
What you want him to do, pick up a riot shield? This is a job for the police. The minister for law and justice is in England I expect.
Cant wait to see these thugs have riot control weapons turned on them. Forget water cannons, bring out the microwave guns!
The army should start helping the police.
I also think its fucking shameful that we are seeing the groups composed of 95% of one particular ethnic group. They should have some pride in themselves.
http://games.ign.com/articles/118/1186734p1.html
Uh oh, thats just down my road!
Would explain the large group of chavs I heard going down my street earlier.
Yes, stupid fucks, is appropriate.
Do you know what thread you are in? What particular event we are discussing?
Yeah. Also I'm pretty sure it's spelt 'Canada'.
It's posts like yours that turn decent valid discussions on polycount into five pages of shit-flinging. **** off. Don't be inferring things about other people on here, when I and everyone else watching the news are just using their eyes. Trying to suggest someone is racist because they are pointing out the completely fucking obvious? More colours and creeds the better IMO, but the people out there tonight are really letting themselves down, and damaging how the public perceive them.
You certainly are forefront I will give you that. But I ask. Does it not say something that one particular ethnic group was only found in the original area? In other words, its not their ethnicity or culture being the issue. Its their delegation of your societies economics to being "stuck" within a area/income/education.*
*Not that we Americans are any better.
I feel I can be because I'm the furthest thing from racist. Also I think people use what you posted as an excuse. I grew up in a council estate in a shitty area, raised in a single parent family, on social welfare etc. I turned out fine, and I'm sure there are thousands of disadvantaged kids of all colours in London and the rest of the UK tonight who are tucked up in bed. But I am seeing a demographic out there tonight, and so is everyone else, and it really is going to affect their cause.
And I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that a white bobby shot a black kid anymore. Thats BS. The LA riots happened like that cause America can be a bit of a racial flashpoint, but the UK is very different, I feel different races are far more integrated into society, even more so in those days; these riots are just about thieving and destruction.
holy cow, are you guys honestly posting news from a racist skinhead site or are you joking?
For the sake of civility in this thread I suggest people just ignore Ganemi's posts... as they so far have either done nothing but incite. Otherwise we'll all regret it in four or five pages time when we are at each others throats
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What is the extent of danger to people living in London? Are any guys here that work in studios in London going to work tomorrow? I'd be calling in sick for sure :poly122: I'm a little worried for people I know in London
I'm very concerned about it. This isnt a natural disaster, they are somewhat predictable, and you have more of a chance. If theres a riot flashpoint on your way to work and some thug decides to throw a brick, game over.
London polycounters sound off please.
I didn't know the person they shot was black, all I know it was some guy to opened fire on the cops.
Wow, talk about paradoxic ideology, I better stay out of that.
It's really sad when all this comes down 'ethnic' thinking from the aforementioned party. I mean hell, if I was a bloody cop, I wouldn't care who the guy was, black, white, Asian, Jew, Nyan Cat, you shoot me, I shoot you, fair and square, it my duty, my friends or my wife and children, or even my old parents could be just around the corner of the shooting, and they could get killed in all this, it's my job to serve and protect.
Sad, so sad.
edit: I hear it's reaching where I live, slowly but surely. Luckily I live in a remote area so it's unlikely to reach my road.
A black drug dealer who shot a police officer BEFORE armed police were called for assistance.
the above statement is just "the word on the street" from milton keynes, about a 45 min drive from london.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=207192798388318292131.0004aa01af6748773e8f7&msa=0&ie=UTF8&ll=51.536086,-0.056305&spn=0.39294,0.630341&z=10&source=embed
he's not, he's in sweden, and i woke his ass up, lol!
Trouble in liverpool now and reports of thugs calling for riots in southampton.
hmm I hope asda is not fire, because I will have to go to tescos instead:)
Anyway, stay safe, hope none of you london polycounters are in danger
Who shot first is moot, it's the european monoculture (quoting BBC World News) that makes minorities feel isolated and under attack.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2022670/Gangster-Mark-Duggan-shot-police-London-cab-shootout.html#ixzz1URbWq7MR
They have armed response units, but British Bobbies have never routinely carried guns.
I hope you're not referring to me, all I was pointing out is the paradoxical nature of the situation and sad opportunity taken on the issue.
Black man gets shot, not only is this a hot button to which many people won't bother looking on who shot first or what happened previously, but the only thing they'll hear is color of said persons skin, and some folks will carry that as their banner only to loot and break stuff more by enticing different communities as a way to say "Hey, look, the Government and their Goonies are bastards, kill them all while we look in this shop".
I hope my previous comment didn't sound like I was focusing the issue only on the ethnic communities and the immigrants within them as underhanded slap to them.
How the hell it ended up like it is now I have no idea. Tonight feels like the worst so far.
http://thewestlondoner.wordpress.com/
Wow.
And here lies the real tragedy in all this. What did these three have to do with any of this? Probably nothing. and yet they're left to pick up the pieces after the punks who did this are resting up in a cell.
God save this world.
Anyway, the papers (the Sun) are now saying that the guy who was shot by marksmen, was unarmed, and the reason the other policeman had a bullet lodged in his radio was that it passed through the body.
Which sounds iffy to me as the marksmen use hollow-point bullets, which fragment inside the body. The possibility of it exiting in once piece and lodging into a policemans radio would suggest it's a normal bullet.
Anyway, something is fishy about the whole thing.
I used to live in areas where the rioting is taking place, for about 3 years, police have never really been in control here and the areas are mostly populated by young black men. Even 10 years back when I lived in peckham and mile end, there was a quiet air of unease, with the majority of people afraid of the youth element. Those youth are now probably the parents of these rioters.
Mostly people after free stuff, various arsonists.
Police in London and England in general are very distant to the public since the bobbies were removed. We still have bobbies here in Tokyo and it does make a difference, they have police stations outside each and every train station, no CCTV cameras in much of the city, much like the UK of old. How can the police interact with the community by watching a bank CCTV screens?
How would the youth of 10 years ago have children that are anywhere from 14-mid twenties?
The UK is the world's leading producer of pregnant teenagers, so "youth" 10 years ago could have already had a 5 year old child. It sort of depends on how you define youth, but yeah, the math there didn't seem right to me either.
Seriously.
Seems incredibly surreal.
I vow never to try sarcasm on this forum again.
I know that we all to some degree reject an aspect of the older generation, it's a fact and part of life, no question about it.
For example, I got nothing against people of different backgrounds or colors, unlike some older folks including certain members of my family, but I wouldn't be surprised if my daughter wanted to marry an alien, and I forbade that, thus my children rejecting a social aspect of my generation (EI: Have all the sex you want, but alien STD-ridden tentacles are off limits).
What bothers me the most is that regardless of where you are in the generation, you need to keep a certain amount of guidelines, hence Authority.
The authority system we have in place nowadays, in most civilized countries isn't about Freedom or right to do what you want to do, it's Moral Certitude, Self-Interest Preservation and harmonized individuality, meaning keep your individuality if you want, just don't go around spouting racists jokes every couple of inches.
Instead, the new 'idea' every kid seems to follow is Self-Interest (no preservation rules placed, which is very dangerous) and radical individuality, not moral certitude in anyway or form.
It also doesn't help that the pack metaphor works very well here, since you either become part of the team or don't, and bring self-interest in the workplace, creating disturbances within the system, without actually resolving any conflicting issues.
To get back to London, the perfect example is the people could have staged a strike, banded together and launched a starter event to get an investigation underway and/or organized protests for a wake up call about bordered minorities, etc.
(Please note I have no idea and do not talk out of experience or knowledge on this current aspect of UK is like).
However, instead, we get disorganized self-interest to the n'th degree, where people burned a building that not only had a historical value, but also had survived the Blitz, hence living up to the words that the British folks are nothing to scoff at.
It's so paradoxically stupid on how these very same people who want a new world order, are simply taking out the guidelines which keep people from raping and breaking everything out, and calling it total freedom.