Does anyone have a link to a tutorial or something to get models compiled to view in the model viewer and in game? I never bothered to read up for the Hound Dog but I would like to this time.
The nick needs to be even slightly smaller, and further down the blade. As it is, anything likely to nick the blade would be very unlikely to do it at a curved point of the knife. It would be more likely to be deflected in one direction or another. The nick should be on one of the flat surfaces, if indeed you do feel that you need it. Personally I think it looks slightly better without.
joshua c--
looks awesome so far nice and neat model!
may I ask did u do an occlusion bake horizontal as shown in ur screen grabs or vertical as it wud be in game?
I took the opportunity to do a quick style paintova....if you feel you dont need it pls disregard
for tf2 texturing methods ( I am only telling you cause you said you weren't good at texturing, but it looks like your pretty good )- - I lay down base colours ( no high frequency textures)
and then on a colour dodge layer block out some squarish 90 degreee directional strokes
erase back into to find an aesthetic middleground and adjust opacity od colour dodge layer
I colours tend to use on metal surfaces are medium tone warm greys on dark cool grey bases and vice versa then add a few hero chips or edge highlghts with th lasso brush
( these are always crisp in tf2 and are evident in spec maps dont forget!
on wood -tan and peach with darker browns in the colour dodge layer again erase back in.
-multiply layer for th occlusion bake and adjust opacity / levels as required
Thanks for the texturing tips! I'll be sure to apply them to the knife. What exactly do you mean by a horizontal occlusion bake? In blender I don't believe there's any directional settings for the AO.
ah thats cool.. i realized it prolly wouldnt work in this case
just that sometimes i like to do a directional occlusion bake to look good from camera
or other words i put a poly plane some distance away from the object ( normally underneath) just to give a tiny tiny amount of shadowed area underneath. (whatever underneath is). it blocks the rays shooting up from the bottom a tad during the bake.
Hi, I don't know how to model... yet, but I will start learning 3ds Max next week.
Anyway, I came here today because I have an idea I want someone to model.
It's like this:
Basically, it's an axe on Pyro's head supported by a headband. It's like a halloween costume and it's kinda funny and comical, that's why it fits the Pyro.
Sorry if bad drawn but the drawing was just to give you the idea. The axe model, color and size can be changed.
Send me a pm if someone is gonna model it.
Just got to think of a good name, and possibly some ability for it to have then I'll upload it to the contribute site.
Maggot Sticker, The Fubar
Faster attack speed but lower damage, similar to the bat's stats,
or
lower damage no random crits, crits on strikes to head and neck, and has the ability to be thrown as a projectile that deals normal melee damage and can crit on head shots but you have to go get it after throwing or wait for recharge similar to sandman ball - difficult skill shot, heavy arc, short range, slow air speed.
let me know what you think about the names and these abilities
if valve has reservations about the name Fubar just tell em it means Fouled Up Beyond All Repair that way its kid friendly. But when have knives supposed to have been kid friendly
Hi, I don't know how to model... yet, but I will start learning 3ds Max next week.
Anyway, I came here today because I have an idea I want someone to model.
Send me a pm if someone is gonna model it.
Can people PLEASE stop doing this. NOBODY IS GOING TO MODEL YOUR IDEA, IDEAS ARE CHEAP AS F**KING CHIPS. 1% inspiration 99% perspiration etc.....
y just talking to my frend about this game, he like it very mutch but i not so but i had an i dea. but i am can not model. =( but anyway here is idea for you if you want to!!!
it is like box like where you put in stuff but with holes for looking and a logo(IN TAEMCOLORS!! IMPORTNT!!!) becazue we all did that when we where kid right? anywya i have not seen this yet and i think its very cool so will you make it and tell me?
y just talking to my frend about this game, he like it very mutch but i not so but i had an i dea. but i am can not model. =( but anyway here is idea for you if you want to!!!
it is like box like where you put in stuff but with holes for looking and a logo(IN TAEMCOLORS!! IMPORTNT!!!) becazue we all did that when we where kid right? anywya i have not seen this yet and i think its very cool so will you make it and tell me?
but if you submit, give credit plz k?
hi snader i srtaed on the hat you want make wanted making goin good so far will start textrue 2nite!!!
p.s. i think we should share credit or split credit because i think i shod credt
I've been working on a Raccoon Hat for engy for a while now. I've also wanted to make it for a few other classes once this is done...
I mainly have concepts/ 2d renders in PS.
My modeling experience is terrible though.- as you can see.
Like.. 99% of you will laugh at this.
Tell me what the hell I'm doing wrong and how to make it better.
I just want to turn the model into ONE object and skin it.
Then I'd LOVE to add bones to the tail.
Anyway- I really want to submit a hat, but I just need someone to hold my hand through this. I'm completely lost/inexperienced. Help.
I really want to learn.
I'm new here. I've just started using 3DS max to model hats. After watching several modelling tutorials on youtube and successfully completing the tutorial thread on the steam forums to make hats I've now started work on a hat for the Pyro:
This represents around an hour's work. I'm now going to try making the 3 cones(?) looking a little more natural in both bends and shape (they need to be a little flat-er) and then go on with making the whole thing a little smoother.
So, if anybody has any feedback or advice then please share, it'll be gratefully recieved. Please do bear in mind that I have only just (around 3 days ago) started using these softwares so it'd be appreciated if any advice would be given in VERY simple terms.
JoshuaC: The standalone and world model both look great, but the way he's holding it in the first person view looks...strange to me. Like the blade is rotated in or he's having a hard time holding it and is about to fumble it? Maybe it's a size thing? I'm not sure exactly what it is that irks me...Totally unhelpful, I know, but I do like it. You did a great job with the texture.
Von32: You've got the basic shape down already so now it's just a matter of welding all the points together to make it solid. The biggest problem area you're going to have is connecting the tail to the hat (as the shapes don't match up). Just make a ring of edges on the hat part where the two meet and weld them together. Keep working at it, pushing polys, and you'll get it. It'd also be best to screencap your wires so we can help you with any specific problems you come across.
In other questions- how do I solidify it?
I seriously don't know how.
I got up to this step, but now don't know what to do- I guess I'll have to add a texture through some UVW Unwrapping or something. Pretty clueless.
Meh
I'm new here. I've just started using 3DS max to model hats. After watching several modelling tutorials on youtube and successfully completing the tutorial thread on the steam forums to make hats I've now started work on a hat for the Pyro:
This represents around an hour's work. I'm now going to try making the 3 cones(?) looking a little more natural in both bends and shape (they need to be a little flat-er) and then go on with making the whole thing a little smoother.
So, if anybody has any feedback or advice then please share, it'll be gratefully recieved. Please do bear in mind that I have only just (around 3 days ago) started using these softwares so it'd be appreciated if any advice would be given in VERY simple terms.
Thanks
Hey, I'm on day one- and you gave me hope. lol.
Looks great so far =]
If you'd like, I'd LOVE to exchange Steam ID's with you. Maybe you can help me out (Everyone else is also welcome)
In other questions- how do I solidify it?
I seriously don't know how.
I got up to this step, but now don't know what to do- I guess I'll have to add a texture through some UVW Unwrapping or something. Pretty clueless.
Meh
Nope, that's not very helpful. No reason to show all the backfacing wires and bones and all that jazz. Do this (assuming it's the same in that version of Max): change to a shaded view (F3) then turn on edges (F4). Change the color of the wires by clicking the swatch next to your object name above the modifier stack (I like black). Last, apply a basic material from the material editor (one of the default gray ones will work just fine). That'll make things much easier to see.
And what do you mean by "solidify it?" You can make it all one object by Attaching the separate pieces together. It'll still be separate pieces, but now you can weld the verts together.
Maybe at this stage you'd be better off watching some basic tutorials on the 3dsMax workflow? Back in the day I started off with Poop's great video tutorials (begin with "3DSMax Beginners" and move on to the "Low Poly Character Series" at the bottom of the page). They may be dated, but everything should still be relevant, answer some of your basic questions, and get you off on the right foot!
Von32: beginning from primitives is a good idea, but you've taken it too far. The way I would have done it would be to have used a primitive for the main shapes of the hat, cut in the edges for where the tail would come out, and then use 'extrude' to extrude those out. Then add a few loops and reposition those to flesh out the curve.
If all of that just sounds like gibberish to you, be sure to watch those tutorials Spacey posted, and then get back to us afterwards if there's still something you don't get.
Brettthefirst: your post is exactly how we like to see it done: tutorials first, then do something, then get feedback.
I think you're on the right track, and I'm not even sure it needs to be flatter. I imagine those things are filled with something (feathers, hay...), right?
If either of you want to help me out past the forum- I'd gladly give you some of my contact info. You know, So I can bother you at 2 in the morning and ask about how to attach ..shapes.. together.
yeah, I actually think I'm going to give up on this around tomorrow. lol
EDIT.... I just fixed this by UV'ing it... if anyone runs into the same problem.
Curious if anyone knows why I may be getting an error compiling my w_model .
ERROR: cannot find bone weapon_bone for bbox
ERROR: Aborted Processing on 'weapons\w_models\w_powerjack.mdl'
The bone and the model were exported together out of max.. it's the original bone from the fire axe and it skinned to the mesh... it even says it exported both in the SMD popup... would it have anything to do with no UV's?
JoshuaC: The standalone and world model both look great, but the way he's holding it in the first person view looks...strange to me. Like the blade is rotated in or he's having a hard time holding it and is about to fumble it? Maybe it's a size thing? I'm not sure exactly what it is that irks me...Totally unhelpful, I know, but I do like it. You did a great job with the texture.
It uses the same rotation that the equalizer does. Also the knife blade is in line with the knuckles which is the ideal way to hold a knife.
Just sent it in. Hopefully if they accept, it will increase the air speed and distance of the soldier when held out.
Replies
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/900111/koth_sawmill0003%20%282%29.jpg
The nick needs to be even slightly smaller, and further down the blade. As it is, anything likely to nick the blade would be very unlikely to do it at a curved point of the knife. It would be more likely to be deflected in one direction or another. The nick should be on one of the flat surfaces, if indeed you do feel that you need it. Personally I think it looks slightly better without.
Disclaimer: I'm not a texture artist in the least. :P
I've still got a bunch of smoothing and tweaking to do to get it looking more like TF2.
EDIT: Looks alot better in TF2.
looks awesome so far nice and neat model!
may I ask did u do an occlusion bake horizontal as shown in ur screen grabs or vertical as it wud be in game?
I took the opportunity to do a quick style paintova....if you feel you dont need it pls disregard
for tf2 texturing methods ( I am only telling you cause you said you weren't good at texturing, but it looks like your pretty good )- - I lay down base colours ( no high frequency textures)
and then on a colour dodge layer block out some squarish 90 degreee directional strokes
erase back into to find an aesthetic middleground and adjust opacity od colour dodge layer
I colours tend to use on metal surfaces are medium tone warm greys on dark cool grey bases and vice versa then add a few hero chips or edge highlghts with th lasso brush
( these are always crisp in tf2 and are evident in spec maps dont forget!
on wood -tan and peach with darker browns in the colour dodge layer again erase back in.
-multiply layer for th occlusion bake and adjust opacity / levels as required
anyway thats a good model u got thar
just that sometimes i like to do a directional occlusion bake to look good from camera
or other words i put a poly plane some distance away from the object ( normally underneath) just to give a tiny tiny amount of shadowed area underneath. (whatever underneath is). it blocks the rays shooting up from the bottom a tad during the bake.
Now I don't have one of these and only used photo references. Please only constructive crit. thanks!
Thank you so much for those excellent tips, ant!
Can't get my witch doctor mask looking right in the modelviewer, but this is what it's like in the viewport.
And the Precision Spectacles
If you have them OBJ in 3DS then turn them into EDIT POLY, use Element as the selection mode, click on the hat and delete it.
Anyway, I came here today because I have an idea I want someone to model.
It's like this:
Basically, it's an axe on Pyro's head supported by a headband. It's like a halloween costume and it's kinda funny and comical, that's why it fits the Pyro.
Sorry if bad drawn but the drawing was just to give you the idea. The axe model, color and size can be changed.
Send me a pm if someone is gonna model it.
please tell me what you think. i still need to do a blue version.
Just got to think of a good name, and possibly some ability for it to have then I'll upload it to the contribute site.
Maggot Sticker, The Fubar
Faster attack speed but lower damage, similar to the bat's stats,
or
lower damage no random crits, crits on strikes to head and neck, and has the ability to be thrown as a projectile that deals normal melee damage and can crit on head shots but you have to go get it after throwing or wait for recharge similar to sandman ball - difficult skill shot, heavy arc, short range, slow air speed.
let me know what you think about the names and these abilities
if valve has reservations about the name Fubar just tell em it means Fouled Up Beyond All Repair that way its kid friendly. But when have knives supposed to have been kid friendly
Made a few adjustments to the Rifleman's Deerstalker I posted a while ago
http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/91051
Can people PLEASE stop doing this. NOBODY IS GOING TO MODEL YOUR IDEA, IDEAS ARE CHEAP AS F**KING CHIPS. 1% inspiration 99% perspiration etc.....
it is like box like where you put in stuff but with holes for looking and a logo(IN TAEMCOLORS!! IMPORTNT!!!) becazue we all did that when we where kid right? anywya i have not seen this yet and i think its very cool so will you make it and tell me?
but if you submit, give credit plz k?
This has gotta be somebody making joke accounts right?...
hi snader i srtaed on the hat you want make wanted making goin good so far will start textrue 2nite!!!
p.s. i think we should share credit or split credit because i think i shod credt
added blue texture to it.
It still needs a lot of modeling. Going to update this thing tomorrow
I mainly have concepts/ 2d renders in PS.
My modeling experience is terrible though.- as you can see.
Like.. 99% of you will laugh at this.
Tell me what the hell I'm doing wrong and how to make it better.
I just want to turn the model into ONE object and skin it.
Then I'd LOVE to add bones to the tail.
Anyway- I really want to submit a hat, but I just need someone to hold my hand through this. I'm completely lost/inexperienced. Help.
I really want to learn.
I'm new here. I've just started using 3DS max to model hats. After watching several modelling tutorials on youtube and successfully completing the tutorial thread on the steam forums to make hats I've now started work on a hat for the Pyro:
This represents around an hour's work. I'm now going to try making the 3 cones(?) looking a little more natural in both bends and shape (they need to be a little flat-er) and then go on with making the whole thing a little smoother.
So, if anybody has any feedback or advice then please share, it'll be gratefully recieved. Please do bear in mind that I have only just (around 3 days ago) started using these softwares so it'd be appreciated if any advice would be given in VERY simple terms.
Thanks
love the jpg artifacts. helps sell it imo
Von32: You've got the basic shape down already so now it's just a matter of welding all the points together to make it solid. The biggest problem area you're going to have is connecting the tail to the hat (as the shapes don't match up). Just make a ring of edges on the hat part where the two meet and weld them together. Keep working at it, pushing polys, and you'll get it. It'd also be best to screencap your wires so we can help you with any specific problems you come across.
I really should finish one of these...
High Society Spats
I hope you like clipping.
Barf away.
In other questions- how do I solidify it?
I seriously don't know how.
I got up to this step, but now don't know what to do- I guess I'll have to add a texture through some UVW Unwrapping or something. Pretty clueless.
Meh
Hey, I'm on day one- and you gave me hope. lol.
Looks great so far =]
If you'd like, I'd LOVE to exchange Steam ID's with you. Maybe you can help me out
Nope, that's not very helpful. No reason to show all the backfacing wires and bones and all that jazz. Do this (assuming it's the same in that version of Max): change to a shaded view (F3) then turn on edges (F4). Change the color of the wires by clicking the swatch next to your object name above the modifier stack (I like black). Last, apply a basic material from the material editor (one of the default gray ones will work just fine). That'll make things much easier to see.
And what do you mean by "solidify it?" You can make it all one object by Attaching the separate pieces together. It'll still be separate pieces, but now you can weld the verts together.
Maybe at this stage you'd be better off watching some basic tutorials on the 3dsMax workflow? Back in the day I started off with Poop's great video tutorials (begin with "3DSMax Beginners" and move on to the "Low Poly Character Series" at the bottom of the page). They may be dated, but everything should still be relevant, answer some of your basic questions, and get you off on the right foot!
Besides, I'm not going to quit on it now
If all of that just sounds like gibberish to you, be sure to watch those tutorials Spacey posted, and then get back to us afterwards if there's still something you don't get.
Brettthefirst: your post is exactly how we like to see it done: tutorials first, then do something, then get feedback.
I think you're on the right track, and I'm not even sure it needs to be flatter. I imagine those things are filled with something (feathers, hay...), right?
Yeah.... I'm gonna... watch those first.. hahaha
If either of you want to help me out past the forum- I'd gladly give you some of my contact info. You know, So I can bother you at 2 in the morning and ask about how to attach ..shapes.. together.
yeah, I actually think I'm going to give up on this around tomorrow. lol
http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/92265
Curious if anyone knows why I may be getting an error compiling my w_model .
ERROR: cannot find bone weapon_bone for bbox
ERROR: Aborted Processing on 'weapons\w_models\w_powerjack.mdl'
The bone and the model were exported together out of max.. it's the original bone from the fire axe and it skinned to the mesh... it even says it exported both in the SMD popup... would it have anything to do with no UV's?
It uses the same rotation that the equalizer does. Also the knife blade is in line with the knuckles which is the ideal way to hold a knife.
Just sent it in. Hopefully if they accept, it will increase the air speed and distance of the soldier when held out.