How The F*#% Do I Model This? - Reply for help with specific shapes - (Post attempt before asking)
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I'm trying to model the arm of this bottle(video game hero prop) how would I approach this shape? Is my attempt a good way to start? -
I always wanted to do more baroque like twirly squiggle... so may like so.. ? (there seem to be some holes at the top right an middle part..but also some inbetween inlays.. near the animal head i'm not quit finished yet.. ):
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So I'm working on an object using subdivision surface. Below is the model as it currently sits. Don't mind the unfilled caps and whatnot, they aren't the problem.
Below are some pics of the topology. The first is the mesh without sudb. The one after is the mesh with subd.
Now for the problem, which I'm almost completely certain is caused by that pole.
As you can see above, the mesh of the cylinder BELOW the pole gets pulled inward more than the small cylinder part on the top. There's a visible gap between the ruler and the object on the lower portion of the object, but not on the small cylinder portion on the top.Below is the same region without subd, and you can see that the edge sits perfectly flush with the ruler. No gap.
How do I deal with this? It doesn't look bad when textured and rendered, but the fact that I know this imperfection is there just bothers me.****EDIT: Under the gentle tutelage of a few members of the Polycount discord, I've changed the topology a bit to split that 6 point pole into two 5 point poles. To account for the additional vertical edge loops causing pinching, I used 'loop tools > space', and 'loop tools > circle' on the horizontal circle loops around the main large cylinder shape. I had to manually rotate some of the main horizontal circle loops so that their verts lined up with the loops above and below. The overall topology is slightly less... 'flow-y' than it was before adding the extra vertical loops, but the main cylinder 'body' of this object isn't being contracted inward any more. Pics of changes below, and please offer any advice you have.
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hi, I can’t figure out how to model this part
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Hi, and welcome to Polycount! Please see the first post for helpful instructions. Help us help you!midnightdead said:hi, I can’t figure out how to model this part -
Hi guys, I am creating a 3D Low poly washing machine and I am looking for assistance with some topology.
I am aware it's bad ( I am a newbie :P )
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Well.. it's essentially a cylinder.. with "extrusions" from a certain edge.. but "rounded".. so "just model away"...midnightdead said:hi, I can’t figure out how to model this part..
Even if not "perfect".. this already renders quite nicely.. ( luckily its a 30degree turn.. see last image )
And the wires:
And a closer look at a previous WIP while contructing this ( more "straight", mentioned 30 degree.. maybe even suitable for a beauty shot..)
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Not soo bad for a start..3DNERD666 said:Hi guys, I am creating a 3D Low poly washing machine and I am looking for assistance with some topology.
I am aware it's bad ( I am a newbie :P )
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how do I model these 4 'capsule' shapes? My problem is that the capsule shapes need rounded corners so I think I need to add more edges, however If I add edge loop(s) I think it will ruin the large capsule and circle shape on the right.
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meejeebee said:
how do I model these 4 'capsule' shapes? My problem is that the capsule shapes need rounded corners so I think I need to add more edges, however If I add edge loop(s) I think it will ruin the large capsule and circle shape on the right.step by step, oooh baby!always start with a simple shape, as simple as you can. Less vertices to work with, less hassle.
reworked the simple "squares" to be more round and fit the concept better
added edge between those shapes, so i can seperate them and work with only that part.
here you can see that i am only working on one part, that i can copy and paste. Because, at the end. Modular thinking and reusability is wonderful in tech!
did the same with this part!
now put everything together and weld the vertices!
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How would I reduce these 6 vertical lines down to one? This is realistic hard surface so the topology needs to be super clean quads. -
just eliminate the lines you dont need and have an ngon or tri there. It's fine. Merge a couple of those edges together to have a more "evenly" divided flowmeejeebee said:
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Hello, im new here.
I've been trying to fix the topology of this area, but im having a hard time.
This is how it looked like before
Then i tried on 2 different ways to fix the topology and fill the empty space, but honestly im not sure if any of them were right.
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Voo200 said:Hello, im new here.
I've been trying to fix the topology of this area, but im having a hard time.
This is how it looked like before
Then i tried on 2 different ways to fix the topology and fill the empty space, but honestly im not sure if any of them were right.
Any suggestions or tips?Hi there.I would recommend to work with 1/8 of the mesh.1. Start with your basic shapes2. Create seperate mesh that would act as boolean3. Boolean4. Rotate the mesh 45 degrees5. delete 1/8 of the mesh6. Clean up7. Rotate back -45 degrees8. Symmetriand voila.
HERE IS THE 1/8th of the mesh cleaned
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wirrexx said:Hi there.I would recommend to work with 1/8 of the mesh.1. Start with your basic shapes2. Create seperate mesh that would act as boolean3. Boolean4. Rotate the mesh 45 degrees5. delete 1/8 of the mesh6. Clean up7. Rotate back -45 degrees8. Symmetriand voila.HERE IS THE 1/8th of the mesh cleaned
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Hello! Super useful tips and workflow! I have tried this topology for practice, using extrude and mirror, what do you think?
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kollmer said:Hello! Super useful tips and workflow! I have tried this topology for practice, using extrude and mirror, what do you think?
Clean result. Just have a reminder, if it's not going to deform, you could easily terminate the loops with ngons /tris. Dont fear them.
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The 1/8 approach might be an idea.. here is mine. The marked lines might be delete when adding..
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Hello everyone, I'm new to modeling and decided to model this mechanical arm for practice, but i'm stuck at the "palm" area, i managed to do it with boolean and dirty topology but i can't do it with clean topology and using subd (which is what i'm trying to practice), my goal is to make this mechanical arm deform well (even if it's metal). thank you in advance
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ToJoe said:..but i'm stuck at the "palm" area..
Well.. You may show your trials or have to elaborate this to get a more suited answer...
And a shaded view.. the "sharp" edges are "discusable"..
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Thank you, and "my trials" were basically shoving a cylinder in a box with boolean and then deleting the whole thing lol. but next time i will take a picture before rage quitting.okidoki said:
Well.. You may show your trials or have to elaborate this to get a more suited answer...
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ToJoe said:Hello everyone, I'm new to modeling and decided to model this mechanical arm for practice, but i'm stuck at the "palm" area, i managed to do it with boolean and dirty topology but i can't do it with clean topology and using subd (which is what i'm trying to practice), my goal is to make this mechanical arm deform well (even if it's metal). thank you in advanceThis is how i would do it.From top left to right and down .1. Baseshape of where the fingers would go out2. the back that would connect to it3. fixed the finger shape4. Meshes inside that i duplicated and scaled down to boolean5. Union boolean the main shapes6. Difference Boolean the holes7A. Fixed topology7B. Added new shape that i boolean out8-9. Fixed topology on the under side and the topside.10. End productI attached a .zip file at the end for you to explore. Have in mind, nothing is perfect. As this was another "use basic first, before detailing".
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Thank you! that's really good, i will have a look at the zip file and i will try and make my own based on your work and okidoki's work. i will post it here when i'm done.
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Hi guys. Any ideas how to make this pattern? I tried everything in substance painter and it seems like im gonna have to model it by hands. Please help
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so i just downloaded a free model to reverse engineer and i still dont get it. Pls help me understand. Is the primitive that is used here an ico sphere or uv sphere or subdivided cube?
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This might be some to sphere casting liek so:
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okidoki said:This might be some to sphere casting liek so:
that just worked. Thank you! were you looking at the screenshot and just immediately knew how its achieved?
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I first thought of somekind of projection; then shrinkwrapping.. and then.. "to sphere". It didn't looked like somekind of "special fragmentation of a surface".. like for example this.. arc like plaster of rectangle stones..
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Hello, I am a student studying modeling.
While modeling, I am wondering what to do with the topology of this part. How should I organize the surface to make it quadpoly so that it does not become bumpy? -
@Minjae_Jeong It would really help to know whether some or all of these faces are flat, or if there are any curves involved here. Is this on a cylinder? Do a little unzoomie for me.
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hello everyone. My name is Barnard.
I came across this thread on someone's advice. The reason I came across this thread is to find an answer to a minor problem that has been racking my brain for two days.
This is a problem I encountered while modeling a Star Wars blaster. I was creating a high polygon to extract a normal map for use in game production props.
While creating a high polygon for a scope mount, I was concerned about creasing between the mount frame and the part that connects the barrel.
I looked around several places and looked for videos on YouTube. I may have overlooked the solution to this.
This is where the problem occurred. The cylinder shape is not sharp and distortion occurs near the protrusion.
Even when viewed from the side, the shape of the cylinder is not sharp and is tilted towards the pillar or is severely curved.
I'm angry at myself for being so stupid that I couldn't solve this problem.someone could kindly give me some advice about the geometry or tell me if it's possible to solve this problem? Or, for reference, it would be nice to be able to obtain a similar object in its state before turning it into a high polygon. -
Barnard750 said:hello everyone. My name is Barnard.
I came across this thread on someone's advice. The reason I came across this thread is to find an answer to a minor problem that has been racking my brain for two days.
This is a problem I encountered while modeling a Star Wars blaster. I was creating a high polygon to extract a normal map for use in game production props.
While creating a high polygon for a scope mount, I was concerned about creasing between the mount frame and the part that connects the barrel.
I looked around several places and looked for videos on YouTube. I may have overlooked the solution to this.
This is where the problem occurred. The cylinder shape is not sharp and distortion occurs near the protrusion.
Even when viewed from the side, the shape of the cylinder is not sharp and is tilted towards the pillar or is severely curved.
I'm angry at myself for being so stupid that I couldn't solve this problem.someone could kindly give me some advice about the geometry or tell me if it's possible to solve this problem? Or, for reference, it would be nice to be able to obtain a similar object in its state before turning it into a high polygon.this has been mentioned many times in the blog. I would advise you to go back a couple of pages and take a look. you will learn a lot.1. the pieces you are building together, are separated2. I have a 48-sided cylinder in this case, so my box can fit in between the segments. This will automatically act as a supporting loop for the box3. I use union boolean4. delete 1/4 of the mesh5. fix problems6. support loops7. Subd.
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@wirrexx
oh my god. It's amazing how simple it was.
I think my decision to try to solve the problem with a 24-sided cylinder was foolish.
It seems like the story will end if you create a low polygon with a 24-sided cylinder of the same size and a high polygon with a 48-sided cylinder.
But I have one more question. Did you create an object with different sized top and bottom cylinders like me? Or did you try the same size?
I have an eye problem so it's hard for me to see pictures of black objects, but I'm very grateful for the response.
so glad I finally figured out a solution.
PS. I had symptoms of myopia and vitreous floaters, it took a long time to figure out the shape. -
Barnard750 said:@wirrexx
oh my god. It's amazing how simple it was.
I think my decision to try to solve the problem with a 24-sided cylinder was foolish.
It seems like the story will end if you create a low polygon with a 24-sided cylinder of the same size and a high polygon with a 48-sided cylinder.
But I have one more question. Did you create an object with different sized top and bottom cylinders like me? Or did you try the same size?
I have an eye problem so it's hard for me to see pictures of black objects, but I'm very grateful for the response.
so glad I finally figured out a solution.
PS. I had symptoms of myopia and vitreous floaters, it took a long time to figure out the shape.
you can use different sizes, thats not an issue, just make sure that it creates the outside supporting loops for any mesh it connects to!
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@wirrexx I haven't followed it perfectly, but it seems to work well.
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Barnard750 said:@wirrexx I haven't followed it perfectly, but it seems to work well.
so one thing to keep in mind. Dont go for perfect. It will just ruin your "lust" to do 3D. Go for what looks good. if you have tris and ngons everywhere and it still looks good to bake. Go for it. you will learn with each project. Also If this is a HP that will be baked down, be careful not to have that tight edge support. Cause that will cause issues if you are more zoomed out form the object creating jaggies.
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Still doable with 24, best would be 28 or 32, you can get very smooth mesh with that for baking.
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Let’s apply it right away. Looking at the game assets, the barrel mesh was made with a 24-sided cylinder, so I tried using a 24-sided shape. My eyesight is bad today, so I guess I'll have to stop work. The floaters are very visible.wirrexx said:
I'm so lucky to have this community and kind people like you.
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Barnard750 said:Let’s apply it right away. Looking at the game assets, the barrel mesh was made with a 24-sided cylinder, so I tried using a 24-sided shape. My eyesight is bad today, so I guess I'll have to stop work. The floaters are very visible.
I'm so lucky to have this community and kind people like you.
sure thing. Here is a 24, 28, 32.
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Hi, I'm new to the forum. I just wanted to ask if there is a cleaner way to go from 7 to 3 in this tight area? Thank you very much.
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Tomthehyperbeast said:Hi, I'm new to the forum. I just wanted to ask if there is a cleaner way to go from 7 to 3 in this tight area? Thank you very much.
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Thank you for your help!wirrexx said: -
Should I model the small details as separate object to reduce the polycount or is there a way to of topology that use less poly in this case?
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Tomthehyperbeast said:
looks good and you have no issue. Go ahead and do it that way, it's good exercise. In the future, however, looking into floaters, could save you time if you want to for example put more time on learning to have a clean bake or push your texturing skills. But good work on it.
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Even quad topo is great for making subdiv models for metal mechanical parts like that. Just pay attention how parts connect to other parts, if they are one solid metal piece or separate or welded on, etc.
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Thank you for your advice!wirrexx said:
looks good and you have no issue. Go ahead and do it that way, it's good exercise. In the future, however, looking into floaters, could save you time if you want to for example put more time on learning to have a clean bake or push your texturing skills. But good work on it. -
I don't know how to go about modelling this wrap
refs:
my attempt:
if anyone could provide some insight on how to acheive something that resembles the reference it would be greatly appreciated -
slocapz said:I don't know how to go about modelling this wrapUsually there are direct tips for such questions here.. but.. i had no coffee yet
.. so:
Blender from 10 years ago up to 10 month ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMGAmFjJGGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkBSfC_KgVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE93-pFhzNE
ZBrush:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGSav7Ktruk
One image Maya mini-tut and a video:
https://www.deviantart.com/pyrzern/art/Tutorial-Modeling-Arm-Wrap-in-Maya-using-Extrude-340878112
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i'm working on a high polygon assignment. there is an unresolved problem
before digging the hole
after digging the hole
This can be solved by adding a line horizontally, but then the circle becomes distorted. I don't know how to make a wireframe
