I updated the thread, let me know if im missing someone
I would like to thanks everyone that participated and thanks for everyone that kept posting the work in progress. We have some new guys joining the workshop these months and im sure that helped them a lot
on these 2 months we got a lot of great items, i hope to see a lot of them in game soon =]
Sorry for not being too much here in the beginning of the month, a lot of things happened on the same time and i wasnt able to follow the contest too close.
and btw, what we are going to do this new month?
single items again?
should we narrow more like support heroes or mounted heroes?
or should we get back to no limited number of items to the same hero and pick 3 like we were doing in the past?
@Zaphk Thanks guy,you and onilolz's design is my favorite @cagdasx44 Thanks overpraise. @Paskie I really appreciate your words @Prophet9 hah.my poor english....thanks point this out. @Zoja I like scpeter too @Tvidotto I like it !!
Awesome taunt Tvidotto! I personally like this month and the last month, the competition was great, the submissions were nice and i have a feeling that lots of people joined this 2 month, i would like to continue like this, as you already said we could go for support heros only or all female heros etc. or similar things
Thnaks to all, I really enjoy it making items here and beeing part here
Great!
There's only one thing that doesn't convince me very much: he rotates the head back very quickly before pointing the sword forwards.
While it's nice that he rotates it forwards as he swing the sword, that fast back-rotation doesn't look very natural to me
Great!
There's only one thing that doesn't convince me very much: he rotates the head back very quickly before pointing the sword forwards.
While it's nice that he rotates it forwards as he swing the sword, that fast back-rotation doesn't look very natural to me
Awesome taunt Tvidotto! I personally like this month and the last month, the competition was great, the submissions were nice and i have a feeling that lots of people joined this 2 month, i would like to continue like this, as you already said we could go for support heros only or all female heros etc. or similar things
Thnaks to all, I really enjoy it making items here and beeing part here
That is a great idea, female heroes! i will suggest that for the guys
Tvidotto why dont you classify for two different groups like single items for only support heros and the second is single items for female heros winners of the both category gets a licence like last months there was two category sets and single items.
Only a idea
(And if someone do something for female support hero he/she should register it only in one category
Hey guys! Zoja gave a good idea for the theme, what if we go for female heroes this month?
we can keep the single item rule since it worked so well these 2 months
also, we can go for male heroes next month!
Nice idea Tvidotto, single items definitely seem to work incredibly well for a monthly casual contest.
I like the Female/Male idea, another suggestion for future contest along the same single item theme could be head slot only, it's a pretty prominent slot due to the in game profile and I feel currently under represented on the workshop.
I like the Female/Male idea, another suggestion for future contest along the same single item theme could be head slot only, it's a pretty prominent slot due to the in game profile and I feel currently under represented on the workshop.
Yeah, head slot is the most fun, Valve should put more of them in chests. Although, recently they added some single items to the store, so they could be bringing that back.
Female Single items is a cool theme for this month too. Needs a new thread though.
Tvidotto why dont you classify for two different groups like single items for only support heros and the second is single items for female heros winners of the both category gets a licence like last months there was two category sets and single items.
Only a idea
(And if someone do something for female support hero he/she should register it only in one category
Nice idea Tvidotto, single items definitely seem to work incredibly well for a monthly casual contest.
I like the Female/Male idea, another suggestion for future contest along the same single item theme could be head slot only, it's a pretty prominent slot due to the in game profile and I feel currently under represented on the workshop.
I vote head mostly because I got a few head concepts lying around waiting to be done. It'd also be interesting as Cagdasx said to have everyone developing the same slot.
going to prepare the post, start preparing your concepts!!! =]
now about the voting, i think we should change the way we decide the winners, its getting too crowded the voting pool with so many items
i have to ideas and i will joing the list the new one of you guys
- we decide by the rating on the workshop (which could be unfair to the new ones)
- we define some judges (experienced guys on the workshop) that can participate but not be eligible to the winners voting, those guys can choose the winners e explain why on the post
The voting via rating is unfair for the reason you mentioned and the fact that some heros are more popular than others and some item slots are more popular than others.
I like the veteran judges approach. Maybe bring them from outside the Dota 2 PC community?
I think the real question is : is this a modeling contest or a dota 2 item contest ?
If we wanna find out who did the best model, we should have a set of workshop vets judge on which model is best made.
OR
If it is a dota 2 items contest (i'm on this side), there should not be any technical/ workshop pro approach. The general dota 2 player will probably not know my modeling headaches, my sculpt-fu, my color/value mastery or the frustrating hours trying to solve a problem/bug. The dota 2 player will look at an item, and say if he wants it to be ingame or not. Period. We can use a reddit approach to this one.
i want it to be the dota 2 player approach, as neither the players nor valve probably cares about how the process/hardness of making the item was, instead of how well it complements the hero aesthetically.
@Gamer_Alien; As I said earlier, your dota 2 player approach is flawed because item votes aren't only voted by how good they are, but how popular the hero that such item is made for. Simple examples are a good Drow/Lina item will easily beat an amazing Enchantress item any day (that example might not be correct but just as an example). Additionally, and fairly speaking here, some artists are even more popular than others which automatically yields a vote advantage regardless. Let us not forget that people can seek some communities to get votes too.
There are so many ways that the vote system in dota 2 is flawed that I highly suggest that it is avoided.
There are so many ways that the vote system in dota 2 is flawed that I highly suggest that it is avoided.
BY NO MEANS am i suggesting to use the dota 2 rating system. And I know popularity will affect the ratings ... Maybe too much.
This is an unofficial contest with the purpose of learning and sharing mainly, but if we want a realistic way to judge the items, a concoction of both player and pro judge ratings with more/veto power given to the workshop pros will be more accurate. Adding alot of stuff makes it more accurate infact. BUT ! it will also make it more complex for an individual (T_Vidotto) to handle it by himself.
The main point of this contest is learning and challenging our limits. Lets not make it about winning ...
i had another idea, some guys liked the judges voting idea, but the technical part and the game part is really important, we cannot forget that. its a DOTA ITEM CONTEST and not a MODELING contest or a COMPLEXY contest =]
So it should not be just guys from the workshop
since i dont care to win and i think its unfair for me to organize and compete i can be one of the judges on the technical part, what you guys think if i ask for some guys from the community? like casters, players and famous guys directly related to dota?
Also anyone with a good number of accepted items in game could be a judge too
i had another idea, some guys liked the judges voting idea, but the technical part and the game part is really important, we cannot forget that. its a DOTA ITEM CONTEST and not a MODELING contest or a COMPLEXY contest =]
So it should not be just guys from the workshop
since i dont care to win and i think its unfair for me to organize and compete i can be one of the judges on the technical part, what you guys think if i ask for some guys from the community? like casters, players and famous guys directly related to dota?
Also anyone with a good number of accepted items in game could be a judge too
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I think I made it....cut it close though
Dragon Rifle by 7thBattery
Hopgood,
That is very cool. Not to jinx you or anything, but I predict you will be sitting in the number 1 spot for a while
Concept by DoubleLeaf
and wip shots, as im sure you can tell i have been in all holy hell of a rush this week. Updates coming next week
Bow of Crystal Spires by Zipfinator and Hellmouth
I updated the thread, let me know if im missing someone
I would like to thanks everyone that participated and thanks for everyone that kept posting the work in progress. We have some new guys joining the workshop these months and im sure that helped them a lot
on these 2 months we got a lot of great items, i hope to see a lot of them in game soon =]
Sorry for not being too much here in the beginning of the month, a lot of things happened on the same time and i wasnt able to follow the contest too close.
and btw, what we are going to do this new month?
single items again?
should we narrow more like support heroes or mounted heroes?
or should we get back to no limited number of items to the same hero and pick 3 like we were doing in the past?
Cheers!
i hope you guys like it
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forget to post the video for my taunt
video for my taunt
my taunt
taunt!?
HOW DI YOU MAKE A TAUNT ! MUST-SHARE OR REPORTED !
@cagdasx44 Thanks overpraise.
@Paskie I really appreciate your words
@Prophet9 hah.my poor english....thanks point this out.
@Zoja I like scpeter too
@Tvidotto I like it !!
worng post^^ great shuriken, was worth it that you worked so long on it!
Awesome taunt Tvidotto! I personally like this month and the last month, the competition was great, the submissions were nice and i have a feeling that lots of people joined this 2 month, i would like to continue like this, as you already said we could go for support heros only or all female heros etc. or similar things
Thnaks to all, I really enjoy it making items here and beeing part here
Great!
There's only one thing that doesn't convince me very much: he rotates the head back very quickly before pointing the sword forwards.
While it's nice that he rotates it forwards as he swing the sword, that fast back-rotation doesn't look very natural to me
Nice work! So shiny...
you are right, i need to tone that down!
thanks!
That is a great idea, female heroes! i will suggest that for the guys
we can keep the single item rule since it worked so well these 2 months
also, we can go for male heroes next month!
Only a idea
(And if someone do something for female support hero he/she should register it only in one category
Nice idea Tvidotto, single items definitely seem to work incredibly well for a monthly casual contest.
I like the Female/Male idea, another suggestion for future contest along the same single item theme could be head slot only, it's a pretty prominent slot due to the in game profile and I feel currently under represented on the workshop.
Yeah, head slot is the most fun, Valve should put more of them in chests. Although, recently they added some single items to the store, so they could be bringing that back.
Female Single items is a cool theme for this month too. Needs a new thread though.
im not sure of the idea of splitting in 2 themes
nice idea Lenny!
single items for female heroes
or
head slot only?
Good point
We can go head slot next month!
going to prepare the post, start preparing your concepts!!! =]
now about the voting, i think we should change the way we decide the winners, its getting too crowded the voting pool with so many items
i have to ideas and i will joing the list the new one of you guys
- we decide by the rating on the workshop (which could be unfair to the new ones)
- we define some judges (experienced guys on the workshop) that can participate but not be eligible to the winners voting, those guys can choose the winners e explain why on the post
Any other idea?
I like the veteran judges approach. Maybe bring them from outside the Dota 2 PC community?
IMO we may take top 3 items or top 5 by workshop ratings and post it on reddit as final voting.
If we wanna find out who did the best model, we should have a set of workshop vets judge on which model is best made.
OR
If it is a dota 2 items contest (i'm on this side), there should not be any technical/ workshop pro approach. The general dota 2 player will probably not know my modeling headaches, my sculpt-fu, my color/value mastery or the frustrating hours trying to solve a problem/bug. The dota 2 player will look at an item, and say if he wants it to be ingame or not. Period. We can use a reddit approach to this one.
i want it to be the dota 2 player approach, as neither the players nor valve probably cares about how the process/hardness of making the item was, instead of how well it complements the hero aesthetically.
Just want to mention this : Technically, Broodmother and spectre are females, right ?
There are so many ways that the vote system in dota 2 is flawed that I highly suggest that it is avoided.
Either way, looking forward to participate again.
BY NO MEANS am i suggesting to use the dota 2 rating system. And I know popularity will affect the ratings ... Maybe too much.
This is an unofficial contest with the purpose of learning and sharing mainly, but if we want a realistic way to judge the items, a concoction of both player and pro judge ratings with more/veto power given to the workshop pros will be more accurate. Adding alot of stuff makes it more accurate infact. BUT ! it will also make it more complex for an individual (T_Vidotto) to handle it by himself.
The main point of this contest is learning and challenging our limits. Lets not make it about winning ...
So it should not be just guys from the workshop
since i dont care to win and i think its unfair for me to organize and compete i can be one of the judges on the technical part, what you guys think if i ask for some guys from the community? like casters, players and famous guys directly related to dota?
Also anyone with a good number of accepted items in game could be a judge too
That sounds good for me