Ok, i've settled on my idea for my class pack and I've decided to delve deeper into my previous theme and establish a stronger idea for improvement. I felt like i was beating a dead horse to be honest. I want to give this a tad more thought
So lets call this an advance on my initial idea, if you would like to discuss my previous pack please post in its thread only.
Class : Soldier
Theme : TankBuster
1st Item : Heavy Rocket Launcher ("The Black Box") 2nd Item : Field Radio + Essentials ("Battalion's Back-Up") 3rd Item : Utility Cap ("Grenadier's Soft Cap")
Names are subject to change and i'll add the descriptions later.
All right man! Let's see some concepts post haste! :O
Here's some tanker helmet refs I found-Images removed, links inserted-
Nazi (useless but for good shapes)-
[URL]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3042/2874304376_c373753f11.jpg[/URL]
US-
[URL]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/Ordnanceguy/Headgear/M4crewFortKnoxcolor.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://handcartz.smugmug.com/Hobbies/EXPERIMENTAL-HELMETS-OR-RARE/131/65731230_6ad8u-O.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://handcartz.smugmug.com/Hobbies/EXPERIMENTAL-HELMETS-OR-RARE/131/65731230_6ad8u-O.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/albums/us_army/abc.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/albums/us_army/abi.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/albums/us_army/1okcir.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/bfryar44/Color%20Photos/BAR022.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/212608-2/nafrica3[/URL]
Khthon - Thanks, would you mind editing your post and removing your images? It's cluttered my thread, i don't need any reference at the moment thank you.
I take back what I said in the last thread, I'd rather see that rocket launcher before a finished camo helm. That thing looks awesome. Plus a full radio pack is a lot more interesting than the other backpack concept. Oh, and you submitted the knife right? Either way good luck dude! You better be unemployed.
One thing about the hat - will you angle the front to cover his eyes still?
@laro - with your skull, would you consider making it shaped a little more like this?
You see it a lot in original team fortress and in the meet the team video, but I have yet to see it included in tf2 and this seems like an excellent place.
Man Rob your concept images are so awesome, it almost makes me wish this contest would just keep going so we could see more and more of this stuff from you. I really dig the new rocket launcher design and the radio should be a fun object to work into the TF2 style. I can not wait for the modeling updates.
Ah... the radio replacing his backpack and a walkie Talkie replacing his bugle is a good idea :P
If you want to make it more comical and to fit the whole "Soldier is batshit insane" thing, you could have the wire between the walkie talkie and the radio be cut off, and Soldier is still talking into it :P
Another bugle? You could model a small walkie talkie onto the bugle model you make. Like he blows into the bugle and it is transmitted through the radio.
Ah... the radio replacing his backpack and a walkie Talkie replacing his bugle is a good idea :P
If you want to make it more comical and to fit the whole "Soldier is batshit insane" thing, you could have the wire between the walkie talkie and the radio be cut off, and Soldier is still talking into it :P
I like this, since the soldier is a civilian and has no actual connection to the army
Yeah i've thought about a walkie or a radio mouth piece or something but it would require v_ and w_ animations for holding and using it, and the sound wouldn't make any sense remember it needs to make a ToooTooooooooT sound.
Besides the bugle and pack have no correlation, they are separate items. I don't have to justify the radio pack in terms of rallying the team.
With the amount of time i have, it would be in my best interest to model a bugle. So i am most definitely going with a bugle no question
hmm to bad, because you could also let valve replace the sound, him screaming "FIGHT HARDER YOU WORTHLESS MAGGOTS!" into a discconnected radio piece and random soldier motivation screams
I had a similar idea for my Soldier pack; a field telephone backpack, just like this one, a microphone and as the banner some speakers in the form of those air raid sirens. The Supportive Siren or the Scattering Siren, depending on its use. I didn't get around to it, but I'm glad you're doing this, Laro, because those field radios are just cool .
How about one of those non-electric megaphones with a stereo mic bolted onto the end? It'd fit with the animations and sounds already used by the bugle, but leaves space for the possibility of different sounds. And having a mic means it'll fit in better with the radio pack.
Or you could even just have the default bugle, but with a mic on the end. Saves time modeling :I
Awesome concept drawings, I love them all. My only gripe is that the bugle looks pretty similar to the existing one. It may need something special to make it stand out a bit more.
EDIT: You know, it would actually make a lot of sense if the launcher had four barrels (like the reference pics) since you can load up four rockets as a time as soldier anyway. Either way the rocket launcher is going to be very cool, the belt detail holding the scope on is a nice little detail I must say.
Boylee - Well, i have to retain the shape of the bugle so it fits in the soldiers hand and mouth. I decided to have mine a copper-brass style wider bugle, i think its different enough in design while similar enough to recognise. For the four barrels thing, it wouldn't work because the soldier would be loading and firing rockets into/from the center of the four holes in both the V and W views which would look bad.
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Go go go!
I'm doing a field radio for my own pack... it'll be interesting to see how the two turn out - that said if you want a SC-300 ref sheet let me know
and i love the hat
mostly the hat. the little badge reminds me of the old HL sprays
@ Larolaro - Just trying to help. I like the blocky launcher idea, very different than any other designs I've seen.
Khthon - Thanks, would you mind editing your post and removing your images? It's cluttered my thread, i don't need any reference at the moment thank you.
One thing about the hat - will you angle the front to cover his eyes still?
You see it a lot in original team fortress and in the meet the team video, but I have yet to see it included in tf2 and this seems like an excellent place.
Because all of the scoldier specific hats cover his eyes. Halo, gibus, bill hat , max hat and hatless dont count because they are allclass hats.
Actually, the Gibus and Max's head do cover his eyes, only the halo and Bill's beret don't.
Ok here is the radio concept. Just the flag, bugle and logo to go! Then i better get modelling ASAP.
the compass and the map look good enough???after all it's a buff banner replacement
I could see how the Radio would replace the bugle, but I'm confused as how the map and compass will replace the backpack :O
Yeah the whole radio combo is the buffpack worn on his back and im going to be doing another bugle.
would you not consider giving the radio quite a long, jiggleboned aerial?
If you want to make it more comical and to fit the whole "Soldier is batshit insane" thing, you could have the wire between the walkie talkie and the radio be cut off, and Soldier is still talking into it :P
Yeah i've thought about a walkie or a radio mouth piece or something but it would require v_ and w_ animations for holding and using it, and the sound wouldn't make any sense remember it needs to make a ToooTooooooooT sound.
Besides the bugle and pack have no correlation, they are separate items. I don't have to justify the radio pack in terms of rallying the team.
With the amount of time i have, it would be in my best interest to model a bugle. So i am most definitely going with a bugle no question
http://www.greenbulletmics.com/images/520slfront_up08.jpg
If you did a radio microphone that resembled that, and fit it into his hand, would you have to do much w_/v_ editing, if any?
Some extra references :
http://www.hug-a-bug.com/militaryradioguy.jpg
http://www.tuxedojunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/img_4761.jpg
http://www.robshobbiesandtoys.com/cart/images/GI%20Joe%20Diamond%20Head%20Alert%20090909.jpg
Ok here is the final concepts! I'm going to get right on with the modelling. Eeep!
Or you could even just have the default bugle, but with a mic on the end. Saves time modeling :I
EDIT: You know, it would actually make a lot of sense if the launcher had four barrels (like the reference pics) since you can load up four rockets as a time as soldier anyway. Either way the rocket launcher is going to be very cool, the belt detail holding the scope on is a nice little detail I must say.
tylerburrito - Hehe thanks
Boylee - Well, i have to retain the shape of the bugle so it fits in the soldiers hand and mouth. I decided to have mine a copper-brass style wider bugle, i think its different enough in design while similar enough to recognise. For the four barrels thing, it wouldn't work because the soldier would be loading and firing rockets into/from the center of the four holes in both the V and W views which would look bad.