@Roninsmastermix: That's a pretty sweet rifle, you keep getting better and better. I only don't like the green lens, rest is fine.
Alright, I added some basic brush strokes and started on some wear and tear, not really sure if I'm doing it right. Whatever I try, I feel it looks completely wrong and not even half as good as others' stuff. Just can't nail what I'm doing wrong. Help?
Well you got the brownish / greyish metal right but those white bits are a bit too much. I'd remove a lot of them and keep the ones at the front since it makes sense that he'd scratch it when reloading those rockets into it.
The other thing is that the main section is just one colour and needs more trims with a slightly different colour. For example the bit where the head connects to the main cylinder could use a different colour.
Finally I also don't like your base colour. I think it's too bright. I'd look at the other rocket launchers if you already haven't and compare side by side. It's how I'm making sure my flamethrower doesn't look too silly. Hope that helps, good luck.
@eedobaba:7726 try looking at some tf2 wood textures, use large brush strokes @Habboi: will do, i wanted to keep the jiggle subtle but i guess it was too subtle, ill make it jiggle more while making sure it doesn't jiggle enough to constantly clip with the pyro's head @Ruskeydoo: i can see were your coming from and now that you mentioned it i deffinetly see the oddness of the helmet so ill be sure to fix that. as far as the colors i wanted to keep it somewhat similar to the foster's facade (atleast for the mask part) but the helmet im gonna change(maybe a off white/tan helmet and team colors for the upper visor part(no idea what its called). and finally as far as the style i know that helmets like this were in use during the 60's-70's(which is in line with the tf2 timeline) but i can see why it could be taken as more modern, ill do my best either through modeling or texturing to make it more vintage
thanks everyone for the crits i appreciate 'em, if you got more to say please say it im always open for crits.
edit: also something that i would like clarifaication if anyone could provide it. in hlmv it says that my model is something like 5350 polys but when i look at the compiled smd in blender it only shows like 2330 or something or other. so im confused if its the high or lower number O_o
That looks much more in TF2 style. However it could still use some small/mid strokes to emphasize that it's wood. TF2 is quite influenced by tonal painting where one color is varied with in it's small range.
-Extract the C_model and W_Model with GCFScape. World model only if hat or clothing
-Get MDL Decompiler and put it in the Source SDK Ep1/Orange Box folder
-Decompile the models, and uncheck Use Steam File Access before.
-Make a project in 3d editing program with folders; model_sources, and materialsrc with subfolder models
-Import SMD into 3d editing program, and put textures in materialsrc/models
-Import custom model into 3d editing program, and apply textures from materialsrc/models folder
-delete original mesh, and rig custom mesh to bones
-download guistudiomdl, and set orangebox bin folder in config
-Make sure reference layer membership of rigged mesh has shape highlighted as well in hierarchy
-Set directories in SMD options
-Export SMD, and edit SMD change the bones to have underscores rather than dots.
- With extracted .qc rename to original game mesh name(c_pistol etc) change the $cd path to the one where your project folder is. Save .qc
-Compile .qc file
What is/ Where are the C_model and W_Model?
"-Decompile the models, and uncheck Use Steam File Access before."
Which models?
"-Make a project in 3d editing program with folders; model_sources, and materialsrc with subfolder models"
You mean put the 3d file in one of those folders?
"-Import SMD into 3d editing program, and put textures in materialsrc/models"
What SMD?
"-delete original mesh, and rig custom mesh to bones"
Delete original mesh from what? And by custom mesh you mean the mesh I made? And rigged how, parenting?
C_Model is short for Character Model which you see in the character's hand
W_Model is short for World Model which everyone else sees and you see in third person
"-Decompile the models, and uncheck Use Steam File Access before."
Which models?
The original model or .mdl that you wish to replace. Just make sure you have all of the related name stuff such as .vtx and vvd files too for it in the folder you want mdldecompiler to look inas well.
.mdl file and related files will be in your team fortess 2 materials. gcf
"-Make a project in 3d editing program with folders; model_sources, and materialsrc with subfolder models"
You mean put the 3d file in one of those folders?
Your scene, .qc and smds will go in model sources, and textures will go in materialsrc in the subfolder models.
"-Import SMD into 3d editing program, and put textures in materialsrc/models"
What SMD?
SMD is the decompiled version of the .mdl file. Textures also do go in that folder.
"-delete original mesh, and rig custom mesh to bones"
Delete original mesh from what? And by custom mesh you mean the mesh I made? And rigged how, parenting?
Delete the original mesh from the bones of the model you wish to replace. Yes the custom mesh is the one you made. Rigging is usually done by a skin modifier. I'm not certain what program you use for modeling, so I would look up a tut for your program.
Ok. I extracted the files for a Medic hat from the GCF, and I was going to decompile the mdl file. But I got an error when opening the decompiler, and it crashed. I'm supposed to use "MDLdecompiler.exe" right?
Nice texturing for it. I'm surprised how much you made the color palette fit in. Rust could be toned down just a little, it kind of takes away from the scene a bit.
Good job with those statues! They look really great. What are you gonna use them for?
Anyway, here's a quite simple flamethrower design. I haven't see many flamethrowers around here so I used the degreaser and stock flamethrower as a reference.
Since there's nothing atached to the gas canister It feels a bit empty for me.
There are much more possible designs for the canister bottom. It's just I didn't want to make it complex.
Overall as a flamethrower I like it. With tf2 design as well there can be simplification of certain areas. Long as it carries the idea it should be good.
Hah neat, the same idea I had with the face on the canister although I was gonna do a flaming skull or (as a joke) a middle finger since I like to think the Pyro is the "bast*rd" that people hate
Since there's nothing atached to the gas canister It feels a bit empty for me.
There are much more possible designs for the canister bottom. It's just I didn't want to make it complex.
You could make the end of the canister a separate texture for easy customization.
Bear: I see nothing in your VMT that would cause the polycount to rise either. Personally I'd trust your modelling program over mdlviewer.
Earlier I mentioned I was working on a pyro pack. Well I finally finished blocking out the flamethrower. I studied the original and the degreaser and to my surprise it seems the Degreaser is more similar than I realised. Anyway I like the look of the original but I wanted to put my own spin on it. Like I said it's blocked out so stuff like crocodile clips and the battery pack are just quick placeholders. As a matter of fact, the battery pack is from HL2, it was an idea and I needed to see if the positioning worked. So far so good. Tommorow I can start replacing the placeholders.
P.S. The idea for the weapon is that the range is much further but the ammo consumption is doubled.
I find challenging to crit this, because of it being stylized. However the upper part of the breathing unit could use a bit more definition similar to this, also glasses shouldn't be that huge.
Yeah that seems like a more believable width. All I could see you doing maybe is just adding impressions on the side and tubing, but that could be done with normal maps. Overall I'd say it gives off a fighter pilot impression.
Yeah that seems like a more believable width. All I could see you doing maybe is just adding impressions on the side and tubing, but that could be done with normal maps. Overall I'd say it gives off a fighter pilot impression.
ya if i can figure it out i feel like doing the impressions with a normal map would a good idea saving me a bunch of polys as well as letting me add more of them
Here is some information for it in blender. One thing you have to make sure about doing normal maps is no overlapping UVs or it will make a black mark over your texture.
the animations are finished and I'm currently working on the texture. I had an idea to attach a particle effect to a jigglebone located at the front of the gun.
@ Elbagast: The weapon is supposed to look like the medic modified the original medigun, but I have changed the back part a little compared to the original. For instance part of the handle has been grinded off to make room for the control box.
heres my rifle, untextured, in game. Can see a lot of issues like clipping and misalignment and stuff, I think the whole thing needs some scaling and maybe refinement.
Seems clipping isn't to the extreme, but it's apparent with some minor things like with the secondary hand. It could also use just a bit more repositioning to show he is looking through the sight better though.
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Alright, I added some basic brush strokes and started on some wear and tear, not really sure if I'm doing it right. Whatever I try, I feel it looks completely wrong and not even half as good as others' stuff. Just can't nail what I'm doing wrong. Help?
The other thing is that the main section is just one colour and needs more trims with a slightly different colour. For example the bit where the head connects to the main cylinder could use a different colour.
Finally I also don't like your base colour. I think it's too bright. I'd look at the other rocket launchers if you already haven't and compare side by side. It's how I'm making sure my flamethrower doesn't look too silly. Hope that helps, good luck.
@Habboi: will do, i wanted to keep the jiggle subtle but i guess it was too subtle, ill make it jiggle more while making sure it doesn't jiggle enough to constantly clip with the pyro's head
@Ruskeydoo: i can see were your coming from and now that you mentioned it i deffinetly see the oddness of the helmet so ill be sure to fix that. as far as the colors i wanted to keep it somewhat similar to the foster's facade (atleast for the mask part) but the helmet im gonna change(maybe a off white/tan helmet and team colors for the upper visor part(no idea what its called). and finally as far as the style i know that helmets like this were in use during the 60's-70's(which is in line with the tf2 timeline) but i can see why it could be taken as more modern, ill do my best either through modeling or texturing to make it more vintage
thanks everyone for the crits i appreciate 'em, if you got more to say please say it im always open for crits.
edit: also something that i would like clarifaication if anyone could provide it. in hlmv it says that my model is something like 5350 polys but when i look at the compiled smd in blender it only shows like 2330 or something or other. so im confused if its the high or lower number O_o
Repainted most of the texture this time around. Liking the new version and may stick with the lighter grey scheme.
P.S. You understand the difference between poly and tri's I take it? Just checking
Trying to get that look down. Smoothed it down more and added some strokes to the edges to accentuate the painted look. How's this look?
getting better
I used this guide:
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parts 4-5 (this is part 4) are about compiling.
It takes some work, but heres what you need to do
-Extract the C_model and W_Model with GCFScape. World model only if hat or clothing
-Get MDL Decompiler and put it in the Source SDK Ep1/Orange Box folder
-Decompile the models, and uncheck Use Steam File Access before.
-Make a project in 3d editing program with folders; model_sources, and materialsrc with subfolder models
-Import SMD into 3d editing program, and put textures in materialsrc/models
-Import custom model into 3d editing program, and apply textures from materialsrc/models folder
-delete original mesh, and rig custom mesh to bones
-download guistudiomdl, and set orangebox bin folder in config
-Make sure reference layer membership of rigged mesh has shape highlighted as well in hierarchy
-Set directories in SMD options
-Export SMD, and edit SMD change the bones to have underscores rather than dots.
- With extracted .qc rename to original game mesh name(c_pistol etc) change the $cd path to the one where your project folder is. Save .qc
-Compile .qc file
What is/ Where are the C_model and W_Model?
"-Decompile the models, and uncheck Use Steam File Access before."
Which models?
"-Make a project in 3d editing program with folders; model_sources, and materialsrc with subfolder models"
You mean put the 3d file in one of those folders?
"-Import SMD into 3d editing program, and put textures in materialsrc/models"
What SMD?
"-delete original mesh, and rig custom mesh to bones"
Delete original mesh from what? And by custom mesh you mean the mesh I made? And rigged how, parenting?
C_Model is short for Character Model which you see in the character's hand
W_Model is short for World Model which everyone else sees and you see in third person
"-Decompile the models, and uncheck Use Steam File Access before."
Which models?
The original model or .mdl that you wish to replace. Just make sure you have all of the related name stuff such as .vtx and vvd files too for it in the folder you want mdldecompiler to look in as well.
.mdl file and related files will be in your team fortess 2 materials. gcf
"-Make a project in 3d editing program with folders; model_sources, and materialsrc with subfolder models"
You mean put the 3d file in one of those folders?
Your scene, .qc and smds will go in model sources, and textures will go in materialsrc in the subfolder models.
"-Import SMD into 3d editing program, and put textures in materialsrc/models"
What SMD?
SMD is the decompiled version of the .mdl file. Textures also do go in that folder.
"-delete original mesh, and rig custom mesh to bones"
Delete original mesh from what? And by custom mesh you mean the mesh I made? And rigged how, parenting?
Delete the original mesh from the bones of the model you wish to replace. Yes the custom mesh is the one you made. Rigging is usually done by a skin modifier. I'm not certain what program you use for modeling, so I would look up a tut for your program.
C: Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\username\sourcesdk\bin\ep1\bin
If you don't have source sdk. You can get it via steam in the tools section
Blue version
Use Steam File access unchecked in what?
Anyway, here's a quite simple flamethrower design. I haven't see many flamethrowers around here so I used the degreaser and stock flamethrower as a reference.
Since there's nothing atached to the gas canister It feels a bit empty for me.
There are much more possible designs for the canister bottom. It's just I didn't want to make it complex.
Keep up the good work, and I hope to see more :P
ya by poly i ment tris, i dont see anything related to nocull in the vmt, here is the vmt:
"VertexlitGeneric"
{
"$baseTexture" "models/player/items/pyro/fighter_helmet"
"$bumpmap" "models/effects/flat_normal"
"$detail" "effects/tiledfire/fireLayeredSlowTiled512.vtf"
"$detailscale" "5"
"$detailblendfactor" .01
"$detailblendmode" 6
"$yellow" "0"
"$phong" "1"
"$phongexponent" "50"
"$phongboost" "1"
"$lightwarptexture" "models/player/pyro/pyro_lightwarp"
"$phongfresnelranges" "[2 1 5]"
"$basemapalphaphongmask" "1"
"$halflambert" "1"
"$blendtintbybasealpha" "1"
"$blendtintcoloroverbase" "0"
"$colortint_base" "{205 204 189}"
"$colortint_tmp" "[0 0 0]"
"$rimlight" "1"
"$rimlightexponent" "4"
"$rimlightboost" "2"
"$cloakPassEnabled" "1"
"Proxies"
{
"weapon_invis"
{
}
"AnimatedTexture"
{
"animatedtexturevar" "$detail"
"animatedtextureframenumvar" "$detailframe"
"animatedtextureframerate" 30
}
"BurnLevel"
{
"resultVar" "$detailblendfactor"
}
"YellowLevel"
{
"resultVar" "$yellow"
}
"Equals"
{
"srcVar1" "$yellow"
"resultVar" "$color2"
}
"ItemTintColor"
{
"resultVar" "$colortint_tmp"
}
"SelectFirstIfNonZero"
{
"srcVar1" "$colortint_tmp"
"srcVar2" "$colortint_base"
"resultVar" "$color2"
}
}
}
You could make the end of the canister a separate texture for easy customization.
Earlier I mentioned I was working on a pyro pack. Well I finally finished blocking out the flamethrower. I studied the original and the degreaser and to my surprise it seems the Degreaser is more similar than I realised. Anyway I like the look of the original but I wanted to put my own spin on it. Like I said it's blocked out so stuff like crocodile clips and the battery pack are just quick placeholders. As a matter of fact, the battery pack is from HL2, it was an idea and I needed to see if the positioning worked. So far so good. Tommorow I can start replacing the placeholders.
P.S. The idea for the weapon is that the range is much further but the ammo consumption is doubled.
like that?
ya if i can figure it out i feel like doing the impressions with a normal map would a good idea saving me a bunch of polys as well as letting me add more of them
Here is some information for it in blender. One thing you have to make sure about doing normal maps is no overlapping UVs or it will make a black mark over your texture.
[ame]
the animations are finished and I'm currently working on the texture. I had an idea to attach a particle effect to a jigglebone located at the front of the gun.
@ Elbagast: The weapon is supposed to look like the medic modified the original medigun, but I have changed the back part a little compared to the original. For instance part of the handle has been grinded off to make room for the control box.