on the woman paint the shading and stuff is kinda abrupt everywhere. your probably not done but i just wanted to let you know. maybe the smudge tool in ps would help
Vatsel: I know this is a the noob question since I have the art pencil set for every size of shading yet prefer to use the 0.5mm pencil (mechanical) and get to shade my art just fine..
What pencil do you use for such shading? to detail in dark and defining shadow?
Sometimes your the Dog sometimes you're the Hydrant. Thanks for showing you're frustrations along with your triumphs. I hold your skill and passion in high regard.
Great studies Vatsel! You're really progressing and I admire how well you've been keeping up with things. One thing I really like is how your photo / movie studies are turning out. The Fight Club and taTu ones are instantly recognizable. Hang in there with the heads. I'm definitely still struggling with the subject, but here's a few tips I've picked up that you may find useful..
- Work on more than one type of study at a time. Jumping back and forth between a few can help to keep you from looking at things the same. That, and it's always nice to fend of boredom and stay interested.
- Try not to get caught up in a mindset like "I'm drawing the mouth, I'm drawing the eyes". Try to look past things and view them as differences in shape and value. If you want get a quick idea of how this can help, flip a reference image of a face upside down and draw it. You'll find your brain knows what you're drawing, but isn't used to seeing it that way, so it will go right to work honing in on the simple shapes.
- Don't be afraid to change or exaggerate certain features that jump out to you. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate fine art as much as the next guy, but it can be so easy to get caught up with copying something that it becomes less of a study and more like taking a photograph. Most people exaggerate passively and wonder why they drew something like a foot or nose too big. Usually it's because the feature has caught your interest and you've spent more time on it. If you go about this actively, the results can be pretty surprising.
Hope this helps. Goodluck, I'm looking forward to seeing more from yah!
@vatsel: Nah it was just that. I was reading on the net that you need 2B to shade stuff. But if we are using just .5mm mechanical pencil, I'd need a cotton to give that shading depth..
Thanks though. You gave me a relief that one does not need any sort of art pencil set for a good art and so on.
Grok5620 thanks for writing a comment Devin Busha thanks for the massive tips! appreciated drummer1075 Hey there! My name is Mark, and I dont take requests Nitewalkr A cotton? that sounds like a nice technique. though my goal is doing transitions with no smudging. tbh, idk if you can achieve the really dark values with an HB, but when drawing with pencils I focus on form and not tone anyway .. so yeah a bit long but maybe youll get something out of it haha
Nitewalkr tbh I couldn't find your sketchbook, I always give a comment back. do yeh sure, open a thread or contact me through the numerous ways listed here
And I can't tell you which way you should learn, all I know is - variation is king.
As always, thanks for stopping by
great as always heh the apron makes me want to hug him lol
sorry about drummer1075 hes new here and my friend he can be noob sometimes he said he thought your ds was mine weird huh?
hey dude i just noticed some things heres a paintover. the arms don't seem to blend into the chest. They seem to attatch to the other arm. Also the top arm, is it coming from the back or the side of the neck?
Haha, that's hilarious. I do think the arms look a little odd just jutting out randomly from the body but, then again, I wouldn't know what to do to fix that myself, haha. Very nice!
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Hickle Stine will do, cheers, also flattered to receive your first post in this forum
marlfox8 thanks buddy
What pencil do you use for such shading? to detail in dark and defining shadow?
So you dont use anything else for shading or detailing the depth of image. :S...!! Interesting.
Thanks though.
Nitewalkr no problem, hit me with a question if you got any more of em...
- Work on more than one type of study at a time. Jumping back and forth between a few can help to keep you from looking at things the same. That, and it's always nice to fend of boredom and stay interested.
- Try not to get caught up in a mindset like "I'm drawing the mouth, I'm drawing the eyes". Try to look past things and view them as differences in shape and value. If you want get a quick idea of how this can help, flip a reference image of a face upside down and draw it. You'll find your brain knows what you're drawing, but isn't used to seeing it that way, so it will go right to work honing in on the simple shapes.
- Don't be afraid to change or exaggerate certain features that jump out to you. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate fine art as much as the next guy, but it can be so easy to get caught up with copying something that it becomes less of a study and more like taking a photograph. Most people exaggerate passively and wonder why they drew something like a foot or nose too big. Usually it's because the feature has caught your interest and you've spent more time on it. If you go about this actively, the results can be pretty surprising.
Hope this helps. Goodluck, I'm looking forward to seeing more from yah!
tl;dr - Cool art bro. Hang in there.
Thanks though. You gave me a relief that one does not need any sort of art pencil set for a good art and so on.
Devin Busha thanks for the massive tips! appreciated
drummer1075 Hey there! My name is Mark, and I dont take requests
Nitewalkr A cotton? that sounds like a nice technique. though my goal is doing transitions with no smudging. tbh, idk if you can achieve the really dark values with an HB, but when drawing with pencils I focus on form and not tone anyway .. so yeah a bit long but maybe youll get something out of it haha
Anyways Good luck on your exam. How about I'll show you my sketches and you will know what stage I am at and what I intend to do.
I figured that if I want to learn how to shade in general I would want learn it traditonally first, as in using pencil and paper.
And I can't tell you which way you should learn, all I know is - variation is king.
As always, thanks for stopping by
Agreed, and Natalie Portman with a fauxhawk is always amusing. Nice work.
Emeriastone heh, cheers
marlfox8 thanks for the constant support, appreciated
sorry about drummer1075 hes new here and my friend he can be noob sometimes he said he thought your ds was mine weird huh?
marlfox8 thanks!
Nitewalkr thanks
Elyaradine thanks