Some progress on my medusa set. Pretty happy with the shapes and details so far, but many parts are still wip.
Motenai- Thanks man, that really helped for the thin parts on my set!
Onilolz/ Shock- love that hand! Not so much the shoulder... the teeth are too conform in my opinion. It contrasts a lot with the flowy and more random teeth on the other parts.
insaneophobia- that face is really cool!
tyn- thanks man, curious to see where you take your concept, but remember the importance of shapes. Most parts in your concept don't really break the basic design of Ursa.
Nikey- Cool concept, but the coat could use some more love in the lower region.
Pior- I like the added color variation, but that breast piece is kinda strange... can't see very well from that angle, but it looks like a male chest.
Still so much good stuff, can't wait to see it all done! Im pretty much calling this guy done. If I had more time I would go back to the sculpt on the arms to try some more stuff, but I really wanted to spend more time on Mirana and make her my better set, I did tweak some masks, as well as baked out lightmaps for all the parts. Rigging some parts of this was way more difficult than I was expecting :poly142:
@Godzor: Looking awesome! @pior: I agree about the masculine feel of the new chestplate. I mean giving WR a bit of the breasts she always dreamed about is not a big deal. Especially since the forms should fit well with the carapace armor. @vikko: Eye-patch on the left eye. How does he snipe? @kite212: the glowing cracks need to be adjusted a lot. Currently they look more or less like a bunch of squiggly lines of uniform width and no variety. Take real stone/earth cracks for reference.
@vovo haha if he is right hander he snipes with the right eye.
@kite i think u should do a little less cracks on the arm. more like on the base model.
keep it simple
edit: i made a fast overpaint. added some shadow to the shoulder slot
and simplified the bracer stratches a bit turning also the colorsheme a littlebit.
Thats so much nicer shock, I am trying to find a ztool I can go back to and do something more like this, I think this was just he push I needed, and I will look into adding a pattern to the cloth, I have been thinking about that for a few days now. Thanks for all the feedback! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
started plonking out the diffuse. first time using mudbox for anything other than painting out seams, it's workin out pretty well so far. it's a fair bit darker than the default antimage hat but we'll see how it works out once the masks are set up.
Hell broke through, bringing along a lot of awesomeness too haha
@Zip: Love it, the bakes came out perfectly, cant wait for the color, this is easily one of my all time favorite CM set xD
@pior: really like the color and material changes you've made, but tbh i think i like the cleaness of the original chest armor better, but maybe it is only me haha.
@Bounchfx: congrat on the finishing entry on ET, really cool set, lovee the ls xD
@Shock: This is one hell of a lion set, srsly, super nice sculpt, organic and all, really looking forward to see how it would look in-game!
@Down_limit: we obviously need this one for the event xD very very cool design and animation, i love that face xD one thing though, it might be the gif quality or me being extremely picky and stupid, but the texture doesnt look as sharp as i would expect from a courier, and i can see there're a lot of stuff that can be mirrored on this one, so just wondering if the texture could be a bit sharper hehe.
@yakonusuke: very interesting design, the tail part just below her behind though looks a bit too bulky for her imo, and the armor's shapes overall are kinda a bit masculine for a beautiful, elegant hero like Medusa, but hell, she is not that beautiful and elegent hahaha, just my 2 cents.
@Vikko: very nice sniper sculpt, i really like the hat and i LOVE that mustache xD, hoping to see more progress on it!
@Prophet9: i remember seeing this concept for lich a while back, very interesting design and sculpt, do hope you guys have something in mind to cover his terrible default chest and texture though haha. Wow i really hate that default chest on lich xD
@kite212: Well done on the arms, definitely better, it reads better now and goes extremely well with the rest of the set !
Btw, thank you everyone for the feedbacks on clock, i'll definitely try out some more red on the texture phase !
yay kite, it does now look way more clear
if u want to push it a little more u can try to adjust the stone color to the one
of the base model, that one is way more dark and gives a better contrast because of that.
also it might look good if u bake out a gradient map and put it with 30-60% overlaying on
top of ur cloth material. also for the cloth material u could draw some shadows on it
- maybe under the belt and at the sides. as pattern for the cloth what was mentioned
before it might be good idea to try something like that: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d1/11/9a/d1119a8a790189a07f4135a861b1461e.jpg
just set it to a very slow transparency, something between 5 and 15% maybe and multiply it on top of ur cloth.
Darkened the stone some more, shaded some more areas, did not try patterns on the cloth yet, I already use a grey scale gradient on all my items, but I baked out a color ramp gradient to overlay on the cloth, I thinks its a nice subtle improvement
started plonking out the diffuse. first time using mudbox for anything other than painting out seams, it's workin out pretty well so far. it's a fair bit darker than the default antimage hat but we'll see how it works out once the masks are set up.
Thanks, I agree, would not have been this way without you, and the rest of the feedback from everyone here :poly136: Thanks everyone
We might be getting someone else to do the loading screen for the ES set, but nothing final yet, I will update once that is locked down.
For your lion weapon, 7 and 5 are my personal favorites. I also like 3 because it is so different for him, but I would say maybe save that design for when the almighty particle system is in place. Now I need to crack out on my Mirana set. Happy hatting everyone!
So many great stuffs I don't even know where to start :poly142: @Zip and Artypi: your CM set is turning out really great. Can't wait to see the set with colors on @Shock: number 7, definitely number 7 :thumbup: I think it would look better if the teeth were a bit bigger like other teeth/claw on the set.
@kite, maybe having a pattern in the spec channel on the cloth would look nice? at the moment it seems a little plain. it would also be nice to see more range in the values of the textures! a few more painted highlights/shadows. the masks are doing a great job right now but it needs a little more!
Getting there myself, but its been a bumpy ride. If there is anything I've learned from this, it's the fact that giving heroes skin-tight items is not the brightest of ideas considering how extreme some animations can be. It costs a fair amount of polygons, and it's a pain to rig in a way that accommodates for all animations. Lesson learned !
Still, I am happy with the way the set looks at game distance as I feel like it makes her belong to the forest around her.
This thread and chest is crazy, I don't want to be the person judging..
@pior: Right now the green looks fairly monotone, why not add some yellow gradients and stronger lighting?
@ artypi: Nice, looking forward to the final textures!
I started a techies set today. I know, they are not official, but maybe, just maybe valve sees the when looking at the set items and ...
Techies are just too awesome
Blockout concept in max (checking the animations while doing the highpoly):
That looks awesome! Although you need to make all the stuff less hitech, IMO. Remember that dota is still only in the clockwerk/steampunk era with their fantasy technology, so full mechanised metal stuff that looks as modern as that might be too much. You can basically make it more lowrez by making the rocket shell and the base of the truck-type thing out of barrel-wood, and simplifying the wheels.
Also, remember you can also change the weapon (Squees rocket launcher)
Really big fan of the bulky shapes for the cart! Especially the thingie behind the weel and the front bulky teeth thing! Awesome job man!
i have to /sign what phil said. this feels a little too much warhammer 40k orc high tech like. maybe u can transfer it a littlebit more into dota universe - anyhow?
just some reference pictures from warhammer 40k,so u see what i mean:
Also, remember you can also change the weapon (Squees rocket launcher)
I want to replace the rocket launcher by a minigun since just like the swine skin the tank cannon is close enough to shoot the main attack.. and miniguns are awesome
i have to /sign what phil said. this feels a little too much warhammer 40k orc high tech like. maybe u can transfer it a littlebit more into dota universe - anyhow?
Thanks! The size of the tank makes it quite hard to add chunky big lowtech parts, but I'll give my best.
Ooooh be careful with that, the shooting through the cannon thing is only for the arcana, it won't work on your own model, sadly
Also minigun is sounding siiiiick!
Shooting through cannon isn't even working for the arcana.. the particle spawn position isn't exactly where the rocket launcher or the cannon are. In both cases the rocket get's spawned roughly in front of the techies ..
katze: Cool! I think you can get away with all that metal, I think just balancing it with wood will help And probably simplify the treads, those look the most high tech and complicated.
Hawf: Nice progress! Is the jacket going to have some sort of emblem on the back? I'm afraid it might look to plain from the back.
vertical: Cool Kunkka! And shots of the weapon?
Mdk: Loving how its coming together! Put it up so I can vote already :P
Finally got the bakes done after some serious soul crushing optimization. Moving onto textures!
@Sukotto: Thanks! Nice bake! Why is the head so undetailed compared to the rest? All the other fur pieces have heavy sculpting..
Thanks! The mask is going to have a pattern on it to make it interesting from the portrait and the back view is primarily the ponytail. I'm thinking of painting it with a little iridescence like mother of pearl.
Maaaaan, people are really pushing it for this chest O_o Great stuff all round.
kite212: Those bracers came a long long way motenai: That sculpt is great, will all that detail read in game though? I need to figure out how you do your feathers! MdK: That is one striking loading screen! Shock: Still like 5 the best, I really dig 3 too. bounchfx: Thanks! That set came out so well. And it reads great from a distance! pior: Love the coloring on the back-piece, it really feels like an insect shell Is there anyway to add those kind gradients to the green parts of the armor?
Finished up my concept for Ursa. Going to start the blockout and sculpting tomorrow. Any crits before I set off?
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I'll take renders of some clean views after I'm done with it.
Motenai- Thanks man, that really helped for the thin parts on my set!
Onilolz/ Shock- love that hand! Not so much the shoulder... the teeth are too conform in my opinion. It contrasts a lot with the flowy and more random teeth on the other parts.
insaneophobia- that face is really cool!
tyn- thanks man, curious to see where you take your concept, but remember the importance of shapes. Most parts in your concept don't really break the basic design of Ursa.
Nikey- Cool concept, but the coat could use some more love in the lower region.
Pior- I like the added color variation, but that breast piece is kinda strange... can't see very well from that angle, but it looks like a male chest.
Great stuff everyone!
Dilanka : the quiver was not shown on that picture - it actually is attached to her thigh in the final lowpoly.
Bounchfx : congrats on finishing !
My turn! I've finished the High poly for Sniper! Please let me know what you think
kite212 i think everything is great, but arms look rly weird...:poly115:
@pior: I agree about the masculine feel of the new chestplate. I mean giving WR a bit of the breasts she always dreamed about is not a big deal. Especially since the forms should fit well with the carapace armor.
@vikko: Eye-patch on the left eye. How does he snipe?
@kite212: the glowing cracks need to be adjusted a lot. Currently they look more or less like a bunch of squiggly lines of uniform width and no variety. Take real stone/earth cracks for reference.
@kite i think u should do a little less cracks on the arm. more like on the base model.
keep it simple
edit: i made a fast overpaint. added some shadow to the shoulder slot
and simplified the bracer stratches a bit turning also the colorsheme a littlebit.
And maybe some pattern on clothing (or more colors).
wish u good luck on ur work!
started plonking out the diffuse. first time using mudbox for anything other than painting out seams, it's workin out pretty well so far. it's a fair bit darker than the default antimage hat but we'll see how it works out once the masks are set up.
@Zip: Love it, the bakes came out perfectly, cant wait for the color, this is easily one of my all time favorite CM set xD
@pior: really like the color and material changes you've made, but tbh i think i like the cleaness of the original chest armor better, but maybe it is only me haha.
@Bounchfx: congrat on the finishing entry on ET, really cool set, lovee the ls xD
@Shock: This is one hell of a lion set, srsly, super nice sculpt, organic and all, really looking forward to see how it would look in-game!
@Down_limit: we obviously need this one for the event xD very very cool design and animation, i love that face xD one thing though, it might be the gif quality or me being extremely picky and stupid, but the texture doesnt look as sharp as i would expect from a courier, and i can see there're a lot of stuff that can be mirrored on this one, so just wondering if the texture could be a bit sharper hehe.
@Godzy: hmm pretty shitty sculpt OH WAIT, NVM xDD
@yakonusuke: very interesting design, the tail part just below her behind though looks a bit too bulky for her imo, and the armor's shapes overall are kinda a bit masculine for a beautiful, elegant hero like Medusa, but hell, she is not that beautiful and elegent hahaha, just my 2 cents.
@Vikko: very nice sniper sculpt, i really like the hat and i LOVE that mustache xD, hoping to see more progress on it!
@Prophet9: i remember seeing this concept for lich a while back, very interesting design and sculpt, do hope you guys have something in mind to cover his terrible default chest and texture though haha. Wow i really hate that default chest on lich xD
@ike: Sexy am, 11/10 would bang!
@kite212: Well done on the arms, definitely better, it reads better now and goes extremely well with the rest of the set !
Btw, thank you everyone for the feedbacks on clock, i'll definitely try out some more red on the texture phase !
if u want to push it a little more u can try to adjust the stone color to the one
of the base model, that one is way more dark and gives a better contrast because of that.
also it might look good if u bake out a gradient map and put it with 30-60% overlaying on
top of ur cloth material. also for the cloth material u could draw some shadows on it
- maybe under the belt and at the sides. as pattern for the cloth what was mentioned
before it might be good idea to try something like that: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d1/11/9a/d1119a8a790189a07f4135a861b1461e.jpg
just set it to a very slow transparency, something between 5 and 15% maybe and multiply it on top of ur cloth.
greetings
My steam workshop page: http://steamcommunity.com/id/pocketgarden/myworkshopfiles
This will be my first DOTA project. I'm working on a weapon for Juggernaut...
I think the damage on the blade might be too noisy for the final texture res. Let me know what you guys think!
Been testing the CM in game with the staff block in. Arty is texturing now too.
this is what i have been trying so far. what do u guys like?
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oh god why, i'm having nightmare soon
Thanks, I agree, would not have been this way without you, and the rest of the feedback from everyone here :poly136: Thanks everyone
We might be getting someone else to do the loading screen for the ES set, but nothing final yet, I will update once that is locked down.
For your lion weapon, 7 and 5 are my personal favorites. I also like 3 because it is so different for him, but I would say maybe save that design for when the almighty particle system is in place. Now I need to crack out on my Mirana set. Happy hatting everyone!
this*= the staff rotates like nuts in the air!
@Zip and Artypi: your CM set is turning out really great. Can't wait to see the set with colors on
@Shock: number 7, definitely number 7 :thumbup: I think it would look better if the teeth were a bit bigger like other teeth/claw on the set.
All we need to finish now is the promo pictures and the loading screen!
The staff is donezo. Arty is doing an amazing job texturing the set now.
@kite, maybe having a pattern in the spec channel on the cloth would look nice? at the moment it seems a little plain. it would also be nice to see more range in the values of the textures! a few more painted highlights/shadows. the masks are doing a great job right now but it needs a little more!
anyway, im becoming one with the fur
Getting there myself, but its been a bumpy ride. If there is anything I've learned from this, it's the fact that giving heroes skin-tight items is not the brightest of ideas considering how extreme some animations can be. It costs a fair amount of polygons, and it's a pain to rig in a way that accommodates for all animations. Lesson learned !
Still, I am happy with the way the set looks at game distance as I feel like it makes her belong to the forest around her.
Now on to texture polishing !
In game looks very good, interesting silhouette.
ps. Awesome work you guys doing so far!
@pior: Right now the green looks fairly monotone, why not add some yellow gradients and stronger lighting?
@ artypi: Nice, looking forward to the final textures!
I started a techies set today. I know, they are not official, but maybe, just maybe valve sees the when looking at the set items and ...
Techies are just too awesome
Blockout concept in max (checking the animations while doing the highpoly):
Also, remember you can also change the weapon (Squees rocket launcher)
Really big fan of the bulky shapes for the cart! Especially the thingie behind the weel and the front bulky teeth thing! Awesome job man!
just some reference pictures from warhammer 40k,so u see what i mean:
I want to replace the rocket launcher by a minigun since just like the swine skin the tank cannon is close enough to shoot the main attack.. and miniguns are awesome
Thanks! The size of the tank makes it quite hard to add chunky big lowtech parts, but I'll give my best.
Also minigun is sounding siiiiick!
example:
https://youtu.be/pVAT4n-vwBg?t=34s
So if it's OK for arcana, I guess it's OK for my regular set.
Rigged and Textured, now to test it ingame
Hawf: Nice progress! Is the jacket going to have some sort of emblem on the back? I'm afraid it might look to plain from the back.
vertical: Cool Kunkka! And shots of the weapon?
Mdk: Loving how its coming together! Put it up so I can vote already :P
Finally got the bakes done after some serious soul crushing optimization. Moving onto textures!
Thanks! The mask is going to have a pattern on it to make it interesting from the portrait and the back view is primarily the ponytail. I'm thinking of painting it with a little iridescence like mother of pearl.
kite212: Those bracers came a long long way
motenai: That sculpt is great, will all that detail read in game though? I need to figure out how you do your feathers!
MdK: That is one striking loading screen!
Shock: Still like 5 the best, I really dig 3 too.
bounchfx: Thanks! That set came out so well. And it reads great from a distance!
pior: Love the coloring on the back-piece, it really feels like an insect shell
Finished up my concept for Ursa. Going to start the blockout and sculpting tomorrow. Any crits before I set off?