TF2 - polypack - graff pirate

Graff Pirate · May 2010

:::LATEST UPDATE:::

some metal and texture tests

the CHINA (MANN)

Fragus · May 2010

I don't think cigarettes is a good idea overall, people can be offended (yeah, now-days people can be offended by anything)

eumeL · May 2010

cigars plx!

EVIL · May 2010

the spy smokes, so I doubt its a big deal..

ScudzAlmighty · May 2010

plus he's already got smokes in his soldirs stash.

Simski · May 2010

Fragus wrote: »

I don't think cigarettes is a good idea overall, people can be offended (yeah, now-days people can be offended by anything)

Sniper and Soldier are implied smokers :O
Sniper have an ash tray in his Van, and Soldier have a pack of cigarettes attached to his Stash.

If people get offended by the Soldier smoking, they should just go play Hello Kitty instead.

fearian · May 2010

Yeah, but there's a difference between having cigarette's in the world and having the player smoke them for benefits.

spetch · May 2010

Fragus wrote: »

I don't think cigarettes is a good idea overall, people can be offended (yeah, now-days people can be offended by anything)

Ummm, when you fire a rocket at someone body parts go left and sometimes to the right....which one's more offensive?

Good stuff graff, cant wait to see the models.

Fragus · May 2010

fearian wrote: »

Yeah, but there's a difference between having cigarette's in the world and having the player smoke them for benefits.

THIS! Having to interact and smoke isn't a very good idea

Damo · May 2010

fearian wrote: »

Yeah, but there's a difference between having cigarette's in the world and having the player smoke them for benefits.

Mhmm, several countries do not allow usable drugs to give benefits in video games. For example: Fallout3 was briefly banned in Australia due to morphine.

It's nice concept art though!

mikezoo · May 2010

nice presentation and concepts. keep churning those ideas out.!

beaRKT227 · May 2010

I think you guys are getting too hung up on the fact that it's cigarettes. It isn't necessarily going to be used for benefits, and maybe that wasn't even graff's intentions. These could just be a misc. item.

ScudzAlmighty · May 2010

since when was getting punched a benefit???

seriously though, nowhere in that image does it say the smokes are actually used for anything so why don't you let graff make the damn thing before you go crying to the somebody-might-get-offended-police. jeeze.

Simski · May 2010

I thought the cigarettes were a misc item.

dickless · May 2010

From the picture, which has tape over the top and tag line:"packs a punch" I immediatly imagined that a fist on a spring would fire out, a jack-in-the-box kind of thing. But that does seem a little far fetched. It would be hilarious though.

Graff Pirate · May 2010

yall bring up good points, but Its just an idea i liked. if it dont win cuz its to Controversial wont hurt my feeling either way.ill prob come up with some alternative if I get these done and have more time

much thanks - the input is always appreciated

BANG! · May 2010

Great ideas and designs, as for the cigarettes about the ethics, it depends on what it does...

Buck · May 2010

Yeah, interacting with them would be kinda controversial. Nice concepts though, cant wait to see them modeled out.

Gilboron · May 2010

Maybe the cigarettes could have some kind of buff effect, but they give the Soldier lung cancer so he dies after thirty seconds. That would make the censors happy.

And if it doesn't, say that they are, uh, magical wondersticks or something instead of smokes. Fallout 3 got through the ratings in Australia simply by renaming Morphine.

Mico27 · May 2010

....interacting with smokes is controversal and interacting with PISS that you THROW ON YOUR ENNEMIES isnt? (Jarate anyone?)

Did everyone forget that the spy ALWAYS smokes?

Buck · May 2010

Jarate was never ACTUALLY called piss by valve, there were suggestive terms like the jar filling when he drinks coffee in meet the sniper and that "It increased size of my bladder bla bla bla" but never was it called urine in a jar. Still throwing it to damage opponents is no where as bad as smoking to gain bonus attributes.

spetch · May 2010

lookin good man. I'll use em

Buck · May 2010

Nice update!

Karkasmolenklok · May 2010

So what's your plan for what they'll do? It's a nice looking knife, a decent looking pack of smokes, and a nice (if somewhat overly stinger-modern looking, though with the direct hit I suppose I can't complain) rocket launcher, but I'm kind of interested to see how it works game-mechanic wise.

Fragus wrote: »

I don't think cigarettes is a good idea overall, people can be offended (yeah, now-days people can be offended by anything)

The spy already chain smokes, uses a pack of smokes as his costume thing, and flicks the cigarettes. It totally fits with the time period and theme, especially with the World War 2 American soldier.

Besides if folks can be offended by that in a video game where you light someone on fire, douse them out with a jar of piss, and then have a black guy kill them with a broken bottle, their priorities for what's offensive need to be adjusted.

Ikimono · May 2010

the rocket launcher isn't all that interesting to look at to be honest. For the best definition i can give, "it's just a rocket launcher." Nothing really stands out about it.

Simski · May 2010

Karkasmolenklok wrote: »

The spy already chain smokes, uses a pack of smokes as his costume thing, and flicks the cigarettes. It totally fits with the time period and theme, especially with the World War 2 American soldier.

Besides if folks can be offended by that in a video game where you light someone on fire, douse them out with a jar of piss, and then have a black guy kill them with a broken bottle, their priorities for what's offensive need to be adjusted.

I agree, the game is rated M (At least in most areas) and with such a rating I do believe smoking is pretty covered.

However due to the contest rules, I am personally not sure if cigarettes as a weapon will be an okay entry, unless it's a replacement for the buff banner.

MacD11 · May 2010

add blood to combat knife and make bazooka have a refrence to panzer shreck by having in yellow gritty painted words "PanzyShreek-32" or something.

AyesDyef · May 2010

Smoking is covered, but by having the player actually 'smoke' and promote a buff in such a way is kinda... Not giving off the right message.

Even though it's an M game, kids still play it.

Loving the combat knife however!

MacD11 · May 2010

AyesDyef wrote: »

Smoking is covered, but by having the player actually 'smoke' and promote a buff in such a way is kinda... Not giving off the right message.

Even though it's an M game, kids still play it.

Loving the combat knife however!

13 here (or atleast almost

) and i totally aggree with ya,cigs that promote a bonus are kinda....ehhh.....even if i dont mind people using cigs around me and i dont mind the promotion of cigs thats kinda odd.

hope you like my combat knife idea though!

Simski · May 2010

AyesDyef wrote: »

Smoking is covered, but by having the player actually 'smoke' and promote a buff in such a way is kinda... Not giving off the right message.

Even though it's an M game, kids still play it.

I personally don't think that M rated games should ever have to censor themselves to not upset an audience that is adviced not to be playing the game.

If someone is under the recommended age of the game, they should adapt to the circumstances of ignoring that recommendation.

Graff Pirate · May 2010

Karkasmolenklok wrote: »

So what's your plan for what they'll do? It's a nice looking knife, a decent looking pack of smokes, and a nice (if somewhat overly stinger-modern looking, though with the direct hit I suppose I can't complain) rocket launcher, but I'm kind of interested to see how it works game-mechanic wise.

Thanks a ton for the input,i appreciate all your comments

the rocket launcher is a bit too modern i spose. thinking of what i could do to styleize it a bit more.

I was also thinking of replacing the smokes with just a cigar?

as for the functionality of the weapons i didnt realy care either way but ill post an update today with my ideas of their uses.

fastturtle · May 2010

What would the cigar/cigarettes be doing? If it's just going to be a misc. item with the cigar hanging out of his mouth, that's fine. However, if it's a secondary replacement that gives him a buff or something, I can see people getting upset - not to mention it would look a little silly smoking a cigar/ette the same way he plays the Buff Banner trumpet.

Artexe · May 2010

Looks nice.

oobersli · May 2010

do the cigar. Too many new ppl to the forum are a bit too bitchy about what it does and doesn't do. If it looks cool, ship it.

Graff Pirate · May 2010

:Update:
how bout i do both

and let the critics decide

Mico27 · May 2010

Those are solid models you got there! I can definately see those ingame!

Priest of Syrinx · May 2010

Nice! To me it has a vietnam war feeling over it for some reason, especially the hats.

Psyke · May 2010

the cigar and the tropicana is brilliant.
just looks like it came right out of "predator"

MacD11 · May 2010

cigar's fine,cigs are fine too.

and no im not bitchy,just a bit iffy on the cig idea.
and to let you know ayesdef is a good modeler and knows what he's doing
***ON-TOPIC***
all unlock ideas are great,keep em' comin!

re.wind · May 2010

Those are some clever model ideas. really good stuff here. chapeau, i'd love to see what you make of these in the following days.

Graff Pirate · May 2010

::update::
ww2 pinnup nose art? yes/no?

oobersli · May 2010

youngoli · May 2010

I don't like the cigarette idea either, but nothing's stopping you from doing it, and it's Valve's decision of course. The hats I find absolutely awesome, but there's a one item per slot limit, so you'll have to choose one (I vote for the tropicano!) The rocket launcher looks really plain though. You have to add something or emphasize some feature to make it look more distinctive.

Benvil · May 2010

I'd say no... Females on a RL just doesn't seem like a Soldier thing :P

Somehow I just imagine Soldier would say something like "Females? Those are devils in a dress! Only soft hearted maggots would fall in love with such beings!"

Maybe some kill count in blood instead? You know... That line counting system

youngoli · May 2010

I'm fine with the pinups, honestly. There are other pinups in TF2 maps, after all.

Zipfinator · May 2010

Buck wrote: »

Jarate was never ACTUALLY called piss by valve, there were suggestive terms like the jar filling when he drinks coffee in meet the sniper and that "It increased size of my bladder bla bla bla" but never was it called urine in a jar. Still throwing it to damage opponents is no where as bad as smoking to gain bonus attributes.

I know I'm late on this, but the actual model name is urinejar.mdl.

Anyway great stuff in here so far! Rocket Launcher is looking great. I'd say yes to the pinups. It needs something in that empty space there and it fits in with the WW2 Soldier theme you're going for.

youngoli · May 2010

I know. Why not add a box to it, near the back? You could increase the size of that metal box on it, or just add a pouch holding ammo (like they have on some shotguns). That could add visual interest without changing the current weapon too drastically.

Graff Pirate · May 2010

youngoli wrote: »

I know. Why not add a box to it, near the back? You could increase the size of that metal box on it, or just add a pouch holding ammo (like they have on some shotguns). That could add visual interest without changing the current weapon too drastically.

thats a good idea, i might play around with that since i still got UV space sto spare

dickless · May 2010

I like the idea of having two different decals on each rocket launcher, just make sure they're high quality and fit with the TF2 theme.

Graff Pirate · Jun 2010

::update::

added ammo bag, also changed the pinnup girl sticker to more of a Postcard strapin

Y_M · Jun 2010

I'm worried that ammobag will block masses of the screen, can we get a first person shot to confirm it doesn't?

TF2 - polypack - graff pirate

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