that's a real nice paintover... the colours and stuff are awesome...
but of all the sketches etc. in this thread, i think it would look coolest with something like the 'bottom' head on the armour at the side (on the drawing before this one ^)
sweet.... that armour is fantastic... what size paper do u use to be able to squeeze in so much detail?
but u need to incorporate the translucent screens. They were looking real cool in the first sketches...
Struve >> yeah, these are only sketches, we want to be sure before the CG
buddy >> i don't think the design is cyborg-like. The concept is only an armour powered by a "symbiot", and gives energy to the character (like a berserker effect). So, it's an organic technology
And if we talk about the symbiot, let me introduce you the mother of the symbiots, a woman who is always pregnant (creepy ), and a big mask to hide her face... (she's screaming all the time, 'cause she's always having babies ^^')
Well, it says it should be something you're not afraid to show your mum... so I guess the contest's nudity/gore rules will vary widely depending on people's mothers...
I think a good gauge would be what people got away with last year - I don't recall seeing any bare breasts. Probably best to play it safe rather than risk being disqualified?
You guys made some really awesome sketches here, but for the latest one, you can create it, but don't expect to win with it.
When making a shadow for polycount, here are some questions you should ask yourself:
1. Can she do covert operations by herself?
2. Does she have a weapon or skill that let's her succeed in her missions without anyone elses help?
3. If she goes on a mission, can she go unseen? Or will everyone see her comming because she is either too big or too flashy?
4. Can she cause a lot of damage?
5. Does she look cool?
That's it. In your latest sketch, you only have no.5. She looks great, but she needs a whole lot of tweaking.
Hope this helps. I am sure you guys will come up with something great because you have already produced a few initial ideas that look awesome!
About nudity, it's best to stay away from this during Dominance War events. If by chance you should win, because of the nudity, it would be embarrasing to show your models in interviews and such. This would limit your exposure...
don't mean to sidetrack this thread, but I definately think the rules fail to communicate your intentions with the brief FredH. shadow has to have at least ONE of the traits Vassago mentions. ok I choose weapon specialist.
now the judging requirements
"- Popularity of your character. Does your character look cool? Does your character look like he/she/it can easily destroy any form of opposition?
- Regardless which team you are on, it's your job to prove to the judges that your character has what it takes to win this war!"
apart from the title of shadow, the brief says we can create something that is a weapons specialist that will be judged on coolness and ability to win the war.
you should really update the brief if something else is required imho
edit: I mean- if some of the boards most talented and clever artists are confused about the brief what chance do chumps like me stand
You know, i see a lot of big guys with heavy armors in the submissions, or armor with glowing parts... and that's not 'shadow' ^^'
I agree when you say that screaming is too much, but it can be an weapon, like the banshees in the mythology, who were freezing ennemies whit their scream, and then kill them (and she has a lot of symbiots...so she can kill a lot of people! So, killing people on a battlefield is not only having a big gun, it can be more subtil.
As we choose 'convert or die', i imagine that 'mother' freezes her ennemies, and then throw her symbiots to convert them. The best way to fight someone is to change him to a really stupid dude .
So, i hope we can imagine 'shadow' in another way that i big guy or alien with a lot of weapons
Renaud, i've seen the rules... but i think we can really make a natural version of 'mother', just keep the mask and some metals on her
Sorry for my bad english, hope you understand what i mean
GravyTrain: The idea and design is considerably different to yours - I doubt Guntharf or AcerB read through your thread and "stole" your idea.
Just keep working on whatever you feel like, they will turn out completely different, since the only underlying similarity is that there's a pregnant woman involved. The way they move/look/attack is completely different.
You might as well say that everyone is stealing everyone else's ideas because they have power armour and a gun.
rooster --> After reading what your wrote, yeah, I can understand what you mean. It's a good thing this was mentioned here. Since it's too late to rewrite the brief, I will be sure to keep the term "shadow" loose during voting.
Nonetheless, the women character looks more like a general giving orders from the back of enemy lines then an initial heavy assault unit or special ops unit. On the other hand, the drawings before the woman are great for this topic. Aside from being great concept pieces, they really depict a special unit that is quick, able to cause damage, and possess other traits/combat experience to survive their missions.
Keep it up guys, you will make great canon fodder yet!
_FreD_
what I understood from the brief was more like what rooster said too, for me the character had to be a supersoldier that could kill fast using his speciality to its best...the stealth part wasn't clear at all (appart from the term "shadow", but well) and by looking at most the entries, we're not the only ones being confused with that...
that said, back to the topic, I find all the sketches awesome, I LOVE the last one, even if, I also thing she looks too general-ish to be a supersoldier, still, and whatever you chose to do, I'm watching this thread, I really love what I saw here so far
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As Renaud has said, here is the first sketch, first idea...
but also here.. bit cyborg ...
and the 2. sculpt is very nice
AcerB : i really like these first drawings, looks very challenging stuff.
can't wait to see more progress
good luck guys, even if i'm not in your side
but of all the sketches etc. in this thread, i think it would look coolest with something like the 'bottom' head on the armour at the side (on the drawing before this one ^)
looks like the pairing really was a good one!
I like the first concept idea with those transparent green sector/monitor panels.
Another sketch, just to give a body to the head i overpainted (and little updates on his head too... )
but u need to incorporate the translucent screens. They were looking real cool in the first sketches...
And yes, the screens and all holograms will be added in the cg version
buddy >> i don't think the design is cyborg-like. The concept is only an armour powered by a "symbiot", and gives energy to the character (like a berserker effect). So, it's an organic technology
And if we talk about the symbiot, let me introduce you the mother of the symbiots, a woman who is always pregnant (creepy ), and a big mask to hide her face... (she's screaming all the time, 'cause she's always having babies ^^')
Hope you like, 'cause this one is only for fun
ram that mechanic shit up her ***TILT***
btw, anyone know if naked breasts are ok with the guidelines?
Fred?
I think a good gauge would be what people got away with last year - I don't recall seeing any bare breasts. Probably best to play it safe rather than risk being disqualified?
for the design... FREAAAKS.. but nice *G*
//edit : mmh it looks like our last sketch is not fitting so well the polycount guideline at the end...
You guys made some really awesome sketches here, but for the latest one, you can create it, but don't expect to win with it.
When making a shadow for polycount, here are some questions you should ask yourself:
1. Can she do covert operations by herself?
2. Does she have a weapon or skill that let's her succeed in her missions without anyone elses help?
3. If she goes on a mission, can she go unseen? Or will everyone see her comming because she is either too big or too flashy?
4. Can she cause a lot of damage?
5. Does she look cool?
That's it. In your latest sketch, you only have no.5. She looks great, but she needs a whole lot of tweaking.
Hope this helps. I am sure you guys will come up with something great because you have already produced a few initial ideas that look awesome!
Good Luck
_FreD_
"Penetration, Assassination, Recovering, Demolishing, Sharp Shooting, Hand to Hand Combat Specialist, Stealth, Spying, Deception, Searching, Tactician, Weapon Specialist, Defender, Navigation Specialist, Space Combat Specialist"
Stealth is not a requirement. Although the fact that she bonds with the machine is a big no no. That's directly against the rules.
Awesome concept, though.
but hey.. its there contest and if they want a "bluemakingthingidithing" than thats what they want..
but in one point i have to agree.. a screeming mother-of-dw is no shadow.. how ever you read it
so remove the mouth and make her screem mentally ..
but still a fan of the horned deamon!
now the judging requirements
"- Popularity of your character. Does your character look cool? Does your character look like he/she/it can easily destroy any form of opposition?
- Regardless which team you are on, it's your job to prove to the judges that your character has what it takes to win this war!"
apart from the title of shadow, the brief says we can create something that is a weapons specialist that will be judged on coolness and ability to win the war.
you should really update the brief if something else is required imho
edit: I mean- if some of the boards most talented and clever artists are confused about the brief what chance do chumps like me stand
I agree when you say that screaming is too much, but it can be an weapon, like the banshees in the mythology, who were freezing ennemies whit their scream, and then kill them (and she has a lot of symbiots...so she can kill a lot of people! So, killing people on a battlefield is not only having a big gun, it can be more subtil.
As we choose 'convert or die', i imagine that 'mother' freezes her ennemies, and then throw her symbiots to convert them. The best way to fight someone is to change him to a really stupid dude .
So, i hope we can imagine 'shadow' in another way that i big guy or alien with a lot of weapons
Renaud, i've seen the rules... but i think we can really make a natural version of 'mother', just keep the mask and some metals on her
Sorry for my bad english, hope you understand what i mean
http://boards.polycount.net/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=180330&an=0&page=3#Post180330
Yea as you can see...
Just keep working on whatever you feel like, they will turn out completely different, since the only underlying similarity is that there's a pregnant woman involved. The way they move/look/attack is completely different.
You might as well say that everyone is stealing everyone else's ideas because they have power armour and a gun.
Nonetheless, the women character looks more like a general giving orders from the back of enemy lines then an initial heavy assault unit or special ops unit. On the other hand, the drawings before the woman are great for this topic. Aside from being great concept pieces, they really depict a special unit that is quick, able to cause damage, and possess other traits/combat experience to survive their missions.
Keep it up guys, you will make great canon fodder yet!
_FreD_
that said, back to the topic, I find all the sketches awesome, I LOVE the last one, even if, I also thing she looks too general-ish to be a supersoldier, still, and whatever you chose to do, I'm watching this thread, I really love what I saw here so far