I agree Mop. They would need to dye the hair for McGregor, but I think he could work well.
Jude Law is a little too..too.."Hugh Grant" for my taste. Law reminds me of a "Moore type" acting Bond,
who couldn't kick Moore's ass and wouldn't be believable kicking anyones ass.
The only problem I have with Jackman is that he is Australian. And for me that is a big problem.
"The idea of me playing James Bond got into the press, but it is not true. I would not like to do it ...
they should find someone the audience has no history with," Farrell said.
While I was pulling for Farrell he is probably right with his asessment!
All due respect to the big man, I love his work, his finer moments like in Sexy Beast are fantastic but he's not bond. Bond , for me, has always been the combination of ruffian , rogue, aristocrat and ladies man. Winstone ain much of an aristocrat or ladies man, as he said himself in Sexy's beasts extras ' I'm normally the guy thats brought into to beat the other fella up, I don't normally get to kiss the girl'.
Jonny Lee Miller might be good, but what you dub boyish, I would simply dismiss as weakness, I dont think he has the necessary scowling nature in his soul like Ewan is able to muster so effortlessly that it sneaks into every third glance the way Nicolsons grin sneaks into his every 2nd glance.
I won't be talked out of this though ( how unlike me) , I've been rooting quietly for Ewan to take on the role of Bond since Shallow Grave.... which was quite a wee while ago now eh?
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If everyone uses the term merely to mean residents of Scotland, there's nothing racist about it. Adding four characters to form 'Scotsman' or 'Scottish' makes it an acceptable, no longer a racially charged term? Try adding a few letters to 'nigger' and see if you can make that word acceptable. Can't be done, because it still *is* meant as a racial slur.
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Think about the term "pak" or "paki".. highly racial..
thnom: Can we let that side of this thread die pls?
I don't actually care if anyone calls me or mine a Scot, that's how I have always referred to me and mine. I raised the point about racial slurs simply to demonstrate how for people from pakistan or china, being called a chink or paki is widely seen as being racist and with the Scottish abbreviation it is not.
The point of bringing that up was to try to encourage people to take a step back and relook at the whole issue.
That point went down like a ton of bricks and it was obvious I was flogging a dead horse so I let the debate die because noone was actually reading whole posts, I was getting ranted at for others words rather than my own.
So , let's keep the thread on the subject of bond pls.
Wow I had not seen how far this string has come or gone so to speak.
As far as race I guess you can call me Lost Bastard since I look nothing like my siblings and outweigh most of them x 2 times. I seriously think my creation came out of a few one nighters me Mum must have participated in.
Have any of you considered any of the Baldwin brothers for the 007 role? I think they were Irish?
I saw that link about Tarantino and had mixed feelings about it.
On one hand I think if I lump all my favorite Bond movies together (regardless of who plays Bond) they all seem like they were made by the same director. Hence forgoing any ego and following the standard Bond way of directing.
Still, Tarantino is good at homages to directors he has enjoyed!
Would be interesting, but I would bet it won't happen.
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On one hand I think if I lump all my favorite Bond movies together (regardless of who plays Bond) they all seem like they were made by the same director.
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There's a reason for that. If you discount the two oddballs of the 007 series, Never Say Never Again and On Her Majesty's Secret Service, there were just four Bond directors through the first three decades of the franchise (John Glen, Lewis Gilbert, Guy Hamilton, Terence Young). Each of them directed at least three films, so they managed to establish a certain continuity. Additionally, the producer for all for each of those nearly thirty years of films was Albert Broccoli. His last production was the last Dalton film, License to Kill. Since that time (the four Brosnan films), Bond has had a new director for each outing - Brosnan worked with as many directors as Connery, Moore and Dalton combined. The lack of focus that has plagued the franchise over the last ten years can't really come as a surprise when you consider the productions themselves.
Interestingly, none of the Bond directors considered a big name. Competent and solid, but not really anyone that casual film-goers are likely to have heard of. The most famous Bond director would have to be Irvin Kershner on the renegade NSNA, as that was the first film he directed after Empire Strikes Back. Even that's a bit of a stretch, because he never really directed much else that people are familiar with outside those two films.
It's too bad that MGM doesn't go the route of making Bond something of an anthology of highly talented collaborations with top-notch writers and directors, rather than peddling the same formula again and again. I think Tom Cruise had the right idea with his Mission: Impossible series (De Palma, Woo and he'd have had Joe Carnahan if the M:I3 production wasn't fubar), but his gigantic ego has kept them from being as good as they could have been. Oh, or better yet the BMW 'The Hire' series. Perfect example in fact! Not only is Clive Owen pretty damned appropriate for the Bond role, look at the different directors and how they put their mark on their pieces: John Frankenheimer, Ang Lee, Woo (again), Carnahan (again), Tony Scott... Hell, who'd have thought Guy Ritchie such a damned good chase scene? A talented pairing of good writers and directors could be way more significant than whom the new actor will be, if they pick the right pair. Give me writer Chris McQuarrie (Usual Suspects) and director Michael Mann (Heat) and I won't give a damn who's ordering that vodka martini...
Joe Carnahan dropped out of M:I3 in July due to 'creative differences'. Must be John Woo's ego got in the way there. I suppose it's also Woo's fault that Alan Silvestri was booted from the first film before scoring more than 30 minutes of the movie. Big Cruise fan, are you?
I've been studying them as case files in my ongoing research on how to take over the world. So far, I've ruled out robbing Fort Knox with hottie stunt pilots, employing midgets with pitchforks or large men with metal teeth, and anything involving airborne viruses deployed via stealth space station.
I totally disapprove, but that's because I'm a big fan of Carl Faberge's work. My inner super-villain just wouldn't feel right, faking the artistry of one of the world's greatest artisans. On the other hand, I find the idea of henchmen with circular saw yo-yo weaponry to be strangely appealing...
And if I unknowingly walk into the cinema to watch it with those 'actors' in the talked about roles, I trust you will also shoot me too. Save my sanity!
I'd be like one of those poor infected with an Alien types begging those passing by to 'please, kill me'.
Hey really Affleck would suck, but he was decent in Phillip Dick's Paycheck, he really was.
As far as Tarantino goes, I just watched, yes just finally watched Kill Bill I and was not that impressed, the opening fight scene with Uma in tight bluejeans and that pretty black chic was the best part of it all. imho.
i think ewan would be great, but i think his career would do better not to get saddled with another undeserving franchise of which his role is the best part (no further comment on that one). this 'Ioan Gruffudd' fellow looks like he could be up to it; i think it's a role best for an actor who doesn't have too many really high visibility roles to his credit. not that i'd be unhappy to see ewan in the role, though. anyone besides colin farrell, yech.
also, can someone explain to me why pierce brosnan steps down from being bond, so that he can go and do fairly forgettable bond-like roles? i can't remember what his new one is called but it looks far too much like the thomas crown affair, which was itself pretty bondish. i dunno.
He's a relative unknown. British audiences might remember him starring in the really awesome 'Peacekeepers' BBC drama about UN troops serving in Bosnia.
But I dunno, he seems a bit young and a bit of a mummys boy to me.
yay! Good choice. James Bond should seethe, and he's a definite seether. It's also important for Bond to seem old enough to have been around the world 50 times and getting his head constantly kicked in, before gaining and losing a wife, and then going round the world another 50 times with another round of vicious kickings. Should be spot on.
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I agree Mop. They would need to dye the hair for McGregor, but I think he could work well.
Jude Law is a little too..too.."Hugh Grant" for my taste. Law reminds me of a "Moore type" acting Bond,
who couldn't kick Moore's ass and wouldn't be believable kicking anyones ass.
The only problem I have with Jackman is that he is Australian. And for me that is a big problem.
"The idea of me playing James Bond got into the press, but it is not true. I would not like to do it ...
they should find someone the audience has no history with," Farrell said.
While I was pulling for Farrell he is probably right with his asessment!
"Blofeld? you're fucked mate."
Noone has mentioned Jonny Lee Miller, he might be able to carry it off, but I think he too 'boyish'.
Anyway, Ray is booked up for the next few years, including a major role in Nick Caves "The Proposition".
All due respect to the big man, I love his work, his finer moments like in Sexy Beast are fantastic but he's not bond. Bond , for me, has always been the combination of ruffian , rogue, aristocrat and ladies man. Winstone ain much of an aristocrat or ladies man, as he said himself in Sexy's beasts extras ' I'm normally the guy thats brought into to beat the other fella up, I don't normally get to kiss the girl'.
Jonny Lee Miller might be good, but what you dub boyish, I would simply dismiss as weakness, I dont think he has the necessary scowling nature in his soul like Ewan is able to muster so effortlessly that it sneaks into every third glance the way Nicolsons grin sneaks into his every 2nd glance.
I won't be talked out of this though ( how unlike me) , I've been rooting quietly for Ewan to take on the role of Bond since Shallow Grave.... which was quite a wee while ago now eh?
If everyone uses the term merely to mean residents of Scotland, there's nothing racist about it. Adding four characters to form 'Scotsman' or 'Scottish' makes it an acceptable, no longer a racially charged term? Try adding a few letters to 'nigger' and see if you can make that word acceptable. Can't be done, because it still *is* meant as a racial slur.
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Think about the term "pak" or "paki".. highly racial..
I don't actually care if anyone calls me or mine a Scot, that's how I have always referred to me and mine. I raised the point about racial slurs simply to demonstrate how for people from pakistan or china, being called a chink or paki is widely seen as being racist and with the Scottish abbreviation it is not.
The point of bringing that up was to try to encourage people to take a step back and relook at the whole issue.
That point went down like a ton of bricks and it was obvious I was flogging a dead horse so I let the debate die because noone was actually reading whole posts, I was getting ranted at for others words rather than my own.
So , let's keep the thread on the subject of bond pls.
As far as race I guess you can call me Lost Bastard
Have any of you considered any of the Baldwin brothers for the 007 role? I think they were Irish?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4009157.stm
I have witnesses remember!
On one hand I think if I lump all my favorite Bond movies together (regardless of who plays Bond) they all seem like they were made by the same director. Hence forgoing any ego and following the standard Bond way of directing.
Still, Tarantino is good at homages to directors he has enjoyed!
Would be interesting, but I would bet it won't happen.
On one hand I think if I lump all my favorite Bond movies together (regardless of who plays Bond) they all seem like they were made by the same director.
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There's a reason for that. If you discount the two oddballs of the 007 series, Never Say Never Again and On Her Majesty's Secret Service, there were just four Bond directors through the first three decades of the franchise (John Glen, Lewis Gilbert, Guy Hamilton, Terence Young). Each of them directed at least three films, so they managed to establish a certain continuity. Additionally, the producer for all for each of those nearly thirty years of films was Albert Broccoli. His last production was the last Dalton film, License to Kill. Since that time (the four Brosnan films), Bond has had a new director for each outing - Brosnan worked with as many directors as Connery, Moore and Dalton combined. The lack of focus that has plagued the franchise over the last ten years can't really come as a surprise when you consider the productions themselves.
Interestingly, none of the Bond directors considered a big name. Competent and solid, but not really anyone that casual film-goers are likely to have heard of. The most famous Bond director would have to be Irvin Kershner on the renegade NSNA, as that was the first film he directed after Empire Strikes Back. Even that's a bit of a stretch, because he never really directed much else that people are familiar with outside those two films.
It's too bad that MGM doesn't go the route of making Bond something of an anthology of highly talented collaborations with top-notch writers and directors, rather than peddling the same formula again and again. I think Tom Cruise had the right idea with his Mission: Impossible series (De Palma, Woo and he'd have had Joe Carnahan if the M:I3 production wasn't fubar), but his gigantic ego has kept them from being as good as they could have been. Oh, or better yet the BMW 'The Hire' series. Perfect example in fact! Not only is Clive Owen pretty damned appropriate for the Bond role, look at the different directors and how they put their mark on their pieces: John Frankenheimer, Ang Lee, Woo (again), Carnahan (again), Tony Scott... Hell, who'd have thought Guy Ritchie such a damned good chase scene? A talented pairing of good writers and directors could be way more significant than whom the new actor will be, if they pick the right pair. Give me writer Chris McQuarrie (Usual Suspects) and director Michael Mann (Heat) and I won't give a damn who's ordering that vodka martini...
Another bond goodbye. Since Brosnan is out of the picture, Samantha Bond (Moneypenny), will also be calling it quits.
[/ QUOTE ]Awww... She was a good actress..
Is Liam Neeson also a horrible choice?
Vermilion knows everything about everything.
I think Ben Affleck should play Bond and J-Lo as a hottie a-la-carte.
the best bond there never was and never will be is sean bean. it's such a shame he was janus/alec in goldeneye...
I'd be like one of those poor infected with an Alien types begging those passing by to 'please, kill me'.
I never considered Bean, but he would do the part justice. I think he is pretty good in everything I've seen him in!
Hey really Affleck would suck, but he was decent in Phillip Dick's Paycheck, he really was.
As far as Tarantino goes, I just watched, yes just finally watched Kill Bill I and was not that impressed, the opening fight scene with Uma in tight bluejeans and that pretty black chic was the best part of it all. imho.
And its a pity, but you can't make old people young. Or alive.
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/14632004.htm
http://www.bondmovies.com/news/41.shtml
also, can someone explain to me why pierce brosnan steps down from being bond, so that he can go and do fairly forgettable bond-like roles? i can't remember what his new one is called but it looks far too much like the thomas crown affair, which was itself pretty bondish. i dunno.
He's a relative unknown. British audiences might remember him starring in the really awesome 'Peacekeepers' BBC drama about UN troops serving in Bosnia.
But I dunno, he seems a bit young and a bit of a mummys boy to me.
Griffith o_O
He also seems like he is not a young Bond...
http://www.thisislondon.com/showbiz/articles/20594611?source=Daily%20Mail&ct=5
I dunno Duke, mid thirties seems young to me compared to the 50+ Brosnan no?
If you don't know Craig, check out 'Layer Cake'. Good movie.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony/layer_cake.html
I don't think Craig is absolutely confirmed though.
Not old as in compared to the other Bonds, but rumors fly around and you hear all this 20 something stuff, that's what I was refering to.
1) Connery
2) Brosnan
'nuff said.