Cagdasx44's Workshop Thread

cagdasx44

Welcome to my workshop thread!!

SUBMITTED ITEMS


http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=171452769


http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=189926905


http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=170251687


http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=169767025


http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=156185963

And other items that ı am not proud of.

ACCEPTED ITEMS

None

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Some WIP of alch arm.

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now with better textures...
critism and comments are welcomed.(I need those because my textures generally suck)


or maybe darker

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And a promo pic.

(Worst promo ever?)

beaver_knight

Hi, I thought that instead of your green chem container maybe make a container that will look like a potion bottle? Similar to the one that ogre rider have I think that will fit more nicely into the game style.

cagdasx44

beaver_knight wrote: »

Hi, I thought that instead of your green chem container maybe make a container that will look like a potion bottle? Similar to the one that ogre rider have I think that will fit more nicely into the game style.

I thought of that but they are so small and if ı make them big it could look weird.

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Here is some wip for my BH shuriken.


Eagle fur like its ability called "Eagle Walk"

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some ingame pics without high poly (with base color)


sorry for the second pic there is a problem with the server so ı cant go ingame.

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I started to rebuild of my chen head (first is in the first post)

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No comments ı guess

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some progress on my chen head (high poly start)

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some wip for pudge

still need to play with eye wrap alot.

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the pudge wip made from my own concept which is:

vertical

Keep going!

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vertical wrote: »

Keep going!

ty mate, even this 2 words are enough to encourage me. ( Because normally ı got no replies)

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A wip pic of a shoulder piece for beastmaster which ı am working with Sherlock. (At last ı am working with someone else)

Concept by Sherlock:

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Here is some progress on Beastmaster's shoulder
Mostly saved tris to add something on his back

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Now that ı cant use zbrush ı will delay high poly of beast's shoulder but here is some wip of my pudge's hair.
(As a name Weird Look of Evil Butcher)

just to show that it is hair not horn.

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Color map for me axe's axe,

Any comments and critism are welcomed. ( First time using marmoset )

polarbear

I feel like have to go back and work on your highpoly and base mesh some more. The weapon looks very thin alltogether and it seems like it's about to break... Axe's weapons should be thick and robust.
here's my thoughts:

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Thx for critism,
1.I dont know how to change background in marmoset.
2.I did the wood like you said but it is mirrored so it looking like that.
3.I was think about making runes glow by masks. (Wip)
4.I can and will reduce the count of scrathes by half.
5.I am gonna merge the wood and make it one piece.
6. I dont have enough tris to make it rounder but maybe after 5. thing ı can do it.
Agin ty so much!

polarbear

cagdasx44 wrote: »

2.I did the wood like you said but it is mirrored so it looking like that.
3.I was think about making runes glow by masks. (Wip)
4.I can and will reduce the count of scrathes by half.

2: You could try not mirroring the wood at all, if you have the space on your UV map.
3: I still think the will be too small to see properly in-game, but I may be wrong about this.
4: I think even half the scratches will be too much. I think your better off with only 3-4 that stand out.

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Wip of my jug blade with base colors critics and commends are appreciated

vertical

All those small details are going to dissapear in dota, it looks nice but it's going to smudge as dota 2 compiles textures to 256px.

cagdasx44

I am aware of that, I did it for promo pic and for practice.

igi

hello, your works looking nice and promising, keep it going! But I think you should consider that your end result should be a baked low-poly model so you need to prepare your hi-poly model according to that, for example sculpting the details and edges bold enough to allow them to convert into low texture resolutions without showing up too noisy.

Kolay gelsin

Sukotto

The scratches on the handle don't make any sense. You wouldn't get battle damage on a sword handle because your hand is covering it.

cagdasx44

Sukotto wrote: »

The scratches on the handle don't make any sense. You wouldn't get battle damage on a sword handle because your hand is covering it.

Thx for critism, after this critism ı realise that you are right it doesnt make any sense. I just tried to do something because it was looking naked.

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igi wrote: »

hello, your works looking nice and promising, keep it going! But I think you should consider that your end result should be a baked low-poly model so you need to prepare your hi-poly model according to that, for example sculpting the details and edges bold enough to allow them to convert into low texture resolutions without showing up too noisy.

Kolay gelsin

I was thinking about using high poly in promo pic so the promo will be good. And maybe ı create less noise high polt for ingame model.

Saol!!

polarbear

cagdasx44 wrote: »

I was thinking about using high poly in promo pic so the promo will be good.

To be honest I believe promo pics should be as close to the ingame version as possible, since that's what the buyer gets. I think the magic lies in getting the low poly baked to look close to perfect.
That being said, I agree with the others that you should try to make your models bolder.

cagdasx44

Well thx for all the crits, ı will make another high poly without noise. And get rid of the scratches in the handle.

polarbear

Try using this for your cracks. It helped me a lot, maybe it does the same for you.
It's a custom brush for Zbrush which makes adding scratches a breeze.

cagdasx44

polarbear wrote: »

Try using this for your cracks. It helped me a lot, maybe it does the same for you.
It's a custom brush for Zbrush which makes adding scratches a breeze.

Thx, ı will use it with new high poly.

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here is a quick sketch for my new high poly (ı did it on phone)


C&C are appreciated

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I realised ı forgot to publish the concept so there you go. Concept hand drawn by my twin.

agito666

cagdasx44 wrote: »

I am aware of that, I did it for promo pic and for practice.

those words , the longer one is japanese, another one is "honour". well normally chinese stuff i dont think will put this 2 words on that, it is like tatoo "water" on your arm.

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agito666 wrote: »

those words , the longer one is japanese, another one is "honour". well normally chinese stuff i dont think will put this 2 words on that, it is like tatoo "water" on your arm.

I think it is no longer important because ı decide to redo the high poly

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Some wip for the sword part. Pls help me choose a version.

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Just went back to Beastmaster's shoulder.

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HELP!!!! I have a problem about Ao if you know how to fix pls answer.

Reza

Man your patterns don't have a natural look. Specially those wood patterns.
BTW do you use mouse when Zbrushing?

Pipotchi

I feel like you are doing too many things at the same time + you might benefit from just sticking with 1 thing and finishing it
Also with sculpting I think its best to try and not just draw lines on flat planes to try and give the illusion of detail, its better to actually create realistic depth in the model, because the best models are ones which actually work in the same way as the thing in real life. For instance with the creases in the chen hat, you have just drawn lines but you would be better off actually shaping the cloth to crease instead of keeping it completely flat. If you are going to feign detail with lines and stuff you cant really do it on such a large part of the object

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Thx for the comments,
@Reza: I use a tablet that ı bougt 2 week ago. And ı know about my patterns looking unreal bıt ı am trying to get used to the natural shapes
@Pipotchi: Like ı said ı will get used to the natural shapes.

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Btw ı forgot to ask that is there any brushes you can suggest to.me because ı only know and use 3 of them.

heboltz3

Pipotchi wrote: »

I feel like you are doing too many things at the same time + you might benefit from just sticking with 1 thing and finishing it

This.
So much this.

It's fine to juggle projects, but you have to be constantly organized, and know your workflow like the back of your hand. I really think it would be worth it to pick just one piece and eat/sleep/breath it until you get it to a high quality piece.

Shock

i would advise u the same. its not only that u are doing more projects at the same time - u are also doing each step of it. doing this without having mastered the single steps will cause u to fail.

if u divide the whole itemcreating process into pieces u gona get:

concepting / modelling / texturing / (animating) / promotion for workshop

right at the moment (sorry for the honest words) every single of that steps u do needs alot of improvment. i think u should do it like me and focus on one process part and master it.
like RLY master it - and learn everything to make this one step into a masterpiece. then u can go for the next.

after all u spend a lot of time here, and i rly see your will to improve and to grow. i like that. and what u are doing is already getting better (compared to ..for example that metallbox armslot for alchi^^) just try it.. focus on one part and master - as soon as u can *offer* something, others will do collabos with u and u can grow even more

greez!

heboltz3

Like shocks saying what I'm saying, there's no problem with specialization. At all.

And to add to his steps, in the modeling, you also get

HP Modeling/Sculpting, LP Modeling/Retopo/Optimization, Baking.

There's a reason people collab. Doing a one man show at the quality level/ time frame expected to get items in noticed in the workshop is a rough gig. You might just want to take a few days to really reevaluate what you like doing the most and go for that, OR decide to do a different step on several different collabs.

I mean, or don't these are all just suggestions.

cagdasx44

Thx for all the C&C,
I decided to go with jug sword, ı will work a lot and show you the progress, and pls critism the progress as well.
Thx again.

cagdasx44

Here is some progress of the jug sword, Any C&C are appreciated.

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I finished the sword part here is some pics; Pls give me some feedback.

And maps;

polarbear

I think it was a good decision to focus on the jugg sword at first.
Here's some feedback for you:
Try using bigger and less scratches. You got some 15-20 scratches right now and that big crack in the middle. You should try to use only 3 scratches and make the big crack more edgy. Just try it and see how it looks!

The red stripe in the center looks crooked. Try using the msking tool in Zbrush (the dark spot that you get when you leftclick while holding ctrl) With that you freeze the marked area. Try drawing a clean edge you the masking then use clay-buildup with Zsub to lower the unmasked area.
If my explanation is too bad, google "Zbrush masking tutorial", there should be plenty.