@Vovosunt I think instead of having some blood marks around the area, you should just have those teeth parts plain white and the other part just red with something else that you can add. It's only because when i see it, sniper looks like he just ate some animal and some blood spattered over his mouth. But everything else looks great!
Almost done with this silencer set, just the masks left to go!:
Hello. A have a little question. Is it important that the new sets are combined with standard sets?
If by that you mean parts of the new set can be warn with the old set. According to what valve has said, yes. Based on what they have accepted, no. As long as you keep it in line with the heroes color pallete, there shouldn't be an issue.
@Baddcog: thanks for the info. It would be nice if all heroes have double sided material enabled @G99Factory: IMO it's not that important, however sets that are easy to mix with other sets tend to be more popular, especially with those that have custom ability icons/particles. For example I see lots of people like mixing other TA sets with the shoulder slot from the 3rd insight set.
If by that you mean parts of the new set can be warn with the old set. According to what valve has said, yes. Based on what they have accepted, no. As long as you keep it in line with the heroes color pallete, there shouldn't be an issue.
@Reza and Badcogg: Yeah I also thought that the red may be too much, and I've gotten quite a few Blood Seeker comment on reddit too. But Orange Death just doesn't sound... as deadly. Sounds like a cocktail XD. But I'll try some other colors @Mohsen: That's actually supposed to be tattered and washed out cloth with white paint that wore off. I think it'll look more defined on the model.
How can u get such a clean texture in 256 by 256? Do you mind sharing the texture files?
P.s. never mind I saw it in your thread. Nice work man
Not sure if this is his technique, but if you downscale in Photoshop using bicubic sharper to 512x512, do an unsharp mask, then downscale it again to 256x256, you get much cleaner textures than if you let dota downscale it for you.
Not sure if this is his technique, but if you downscale in Photoshop using bicubic sharper to 512x512, do an unsharp mask, then downscale it again to 256x256, you get much cleaner textures than if you let dota downscale it for you.
Example I made a while ago showing this:
In this image what I did, and do to down sample my textures, is I will first change the image size, making it smaller by half using bicubic sharper, then this image will have a smart sharp filter applied, at around 5-15% depending on the texture. I will then change the image size to the in-game limit again using bicubic sharper. A little tedious, maybe a bit overkill, but in all my tests this has given me the best results
Set done! Sending it to variant who will be uploading it
Hey sir! I think you could work a little more on the set before considering it done
your textures could have some gradient colors and be less one flat color, they look a little low resolution, would you mind showing the uvs? we could give some good advices on it
also, it looks you model could use more detail on the normal map, are you using a highpoly mesh to bake the details on the model?
Hey sir! I think you could work a little more on the set before considering it done
your textures could have some gradient colors and be less one flat color, they look a little low resolution, would you mind showing the uvs? we could give some good advices on it
also, it looks you model could use more detail on the normal map, are you using a highpoly mesh to bake the details on the model?
cheers!
Well, I did do a high poly version of it, and I did find an issue when I imported the set. Firstly, it didn't seem like the normal map or the masks were working on the shoulders, head, bracers, and belt item, but on the weapon and shield they worked fine. Secondly for the textures, I didn't know any other way I could have improved it honestly. And I was working on 256x256 texture maps the whole time, so that might be why the set doesn't look very high quality
Well, I did do a high poly version of it, and I did find an issue when I imported the set. Firstly, it didn't seem like the normal map or the masks were working on the shoulders, head, bracers, and belt item, but on the weapon and shield they worked fine. Secondly for the textures, I didn't know any other way I could have improved it honestly. And I was working on 256x256 texture maps the whole time, so that might be why the set doesn't look very high quality
"colour variation" i guess.
i watch this from 2 meter it is a piece of purple and gold highlight blend together... i'm having trouble finding head part for first 2 minutes when i watching this picture on my desk
There are a lot of simple and quick things you can do that would improve your texture a lot.
Try painting with different tones to give it more depth - using a lighter tone to highlight the most proeminent parts of folds and edges of those golden parts, darker tones to accentuate shaded areas, etc. - you'll see the difference (:
Bear in mind that generally a texture isn't much different from a painting, especially in a game like Dota 2, you can't rely solely on normalmaps and lighting effects to make your model stand out.
This is so frustrating I dont understand why I cant get my models to not look like garbage just previewing them in maya-
One of those is just the regular lion body + the head item i made just with a lambert, with textures and high quality on just in the perspective viewing window. The only thing on both of these is their normal map, no textures. The one on the left has some lighting that I tried to put in, but it looks really bad... When I turn to the right side of his face I get this mess happening:
and then turning to the right gives me this:
Despite there being no lights in this version of the scene... plus even ignoring lighting, the normal maps even on the body look really dreadful. I realise I messed up the head and it will probably look bad even when lit correctly, but I cant get it to even look remotely normal even on the body and it makes no sense. when I add a texture to the body it also has this weird seethrough effect on certain parts, with areas like the back of his waist being shown over the front and same around his chin area. This is all on maya 2012. I have no idea where to begin google searching.. if someone can pull me out of this mess (ideally without just throwing my computer in a fire) i would really appreciate it
@Pipotchi: I'm not sure what caused the problem with the normal map, but about the see-through problem, maybe it's because Maya applied transparency map when you applied texture map to the models. Turn off the transparency map (break connection) will help. The transparency map can be found right below the texture (color) map. About the issue with normal map: did you bake your normal with green channel inverted? If so, did you change the tangent space's coordinate system to left handed?
Btw, I'm having problem with Storm Spirit's models. I downloaded the models from Valve's technical requirements page just a few days ago, opened the .MA file with Maya. The problem I'm having is that Maya won't let me select the models unless I do right click>select all. Also, all of his bones are hidden and I can't make them appear no matter what I do. The weird thing is any other .MA files I open don't have this problem, only Storm Spirit has it. Any one knows how to fix it?
@Pipotchi
I've just tested his model, with the normal map. I think you may have the Bump2d node set to object space normals, not tangent space as seen in the image above. Swap that over and you should be right to go.
@SeeingTriangles
Storm Spirits Joints are on a layer that is hidden by default.
Also his geo has been set to refernce,( the little R ) turn that off and you can select the mesh in viewport
yikes, i had done just that. thanks for helping me out guys ^^ i will try the transparency thing when i am working with the color again.
not great but at least its normal now (pun intended). i think i have one side of my normals reversed although im finding it difficult to tell. looking at the face normals they are all pointing outwards but something still looks a bit wrong. i can work it out from here though i think, ty again
did you offset half your mesh before you baked? that can bork your normals a lot. maya's viewport previews are generally pretty dodgy though, best to check it out ingame first
the transparency's cause maya automatically connects the alpha on 32 bit textures to the transparency node on your material. so basically all the volvo materials will do that, and again, maya is really dodgy with viewport alpha, so it's best to disable that
If you flip your Y in xnromal you need to switch you models tangent space in maya. Click model go into the properties where it says tangent space click left.
Well, I did do a high poly version of it, and I did find an issue when I imported the set. Firstly, it didn't seem like the normal map or the masks were working on the shoulders, head, bracers, and belt item, but on the weapon and shield they worked fine. Secondly for the textures, I didn't know any other way I could have improved it honestly. And I was working on 256x256 texture maps the whole time, so that might be why the set doesn't look very high quality
About the texture size, some artist including myself, use to work on a higher resolution file: for a 256 x 256 it is common to work on 1024 x 1024 and then downscale when you are finished
I remembered another good thing, try to make some contrasts with the textures, your texture needs to work on black and white, be recognizable and easy to read even without saturation.
Cyborgmatt tweeted this
"Speaking of hats I wonder if we are about to get an update with the New Bloom chest, BTS chest and WePlay chest all arriving at once. Wooooo"
If there were a total of 5 treasures, then you can expect a LOT of sets getting in.
Maybe they will, maybe they wont. We'll find out soon!
5 chests + a Nexon one released in a short time period could mean lower then normal profits for artists. Surely players are going to burn out and slow down buying chests after 2 or 3 have been released?
@katzeimsack Nice work on that set! I especially love how the hair came out. Are the single strands masked or separate pieces of geometry?
@Toasty Something like that I would have to see released to believe it lol. Is the first list of sets a treasure? I don't even see sets with those names in the workshop for new bloom.
If they truly are intending to release that many treasures, that would be much more appropriate, considering their hype and the amount of quality sets made.
5 chests + a Nexon one released in a short time period could mean lower then normal profits for artists. Surely players are going to burn out and slow down buying chests after 2 or 3 have been released?
I think that's very likely, however I don't know of any other way valve could 'catch up' otherwise, there's far too many great sets coming in at a rate that outpaces valve, so a big dump like this could be beneficial. The only thing strange to me is if they choose to do it in the middle of an 'event'
@katzeimsack Nice work on that set! I especially love how the hair came out. Are the single strands masked or separate pieces of geometry?
@Toasty Something like that I would have to see released to believe it lol. Is the first list of sets a treasure? I don't even see sets with those names in the workshop for new bloom.
If they truly are intending to release that many treasures, that would be much more appropriate, considering their hype and the amount of quality sets made.
Thanks! I made a gif to show how I did the hair.
The small hair lines don't use alpha, I added them to hide the low texture res in the portrait view.
If you don’t see your favorite New Bloom set in either treasure, don’t fret. The community created so many exceptional designs this year that there was no way we could get them all out in time for New Bloom’s end. We’ll be releasing many more sets submitted for New Bloom with future treasures.
Its interesting too, they said "sets" not items, singles might actually be dead.....
Good news for all the AMAZING Sets that thus far aren't ingame!!!
And i think that they should just throw them(singles, if they are good ofc) in to the random drop system that way the artists atleast get their art out and they could get worth much on the market hence they are only obtainable by the random drop system that way the artist could earn a small amount of money based on the market transactions. Just a little idea. :-D
I guess I never shared this set anywhere after completing it. I finished it in early December, I think. I made it with Nexon for a pro player, but Valve rejected it. Seeing the Nexon chest reminded me to share it. Maybe not my best work but I wasn't given much flexibility in hero choice or to improve it after the fact.
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Inspired why desert snipers and all the FPS games...
Would love to get some crits!
Volvo giff new engine. I want to make particles >,<
Almost done with this silencer set, just the masks left to go!:
If by that you mean parts of the new set can be warn with the old set. According to what valve has said, yes. Based on what they have accepted, no. As long as you keep it in line with the heroes color pallete, there shouldn't be an issue.
You're gonna be waiting a looooooong time.
still waiting for all heroes to be available in the workshop...
@G99Factory: IMO it's not that important, however sets that are easy to mix with other sets tend to be more popular, especially with those that have custom ability icons/particles. For example I see lots of people like mixing other TA sets with the shoulder slot from the 3rd insight set.
Thanks!
Spanner Stone
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=397883949
P.s. never mind I saw it in your thread. Nice work man
@Mohsen: That's actually supposed to be tattered and washed out cloth with white paint that wore off. I think it'll look more defined on the model.
As always thanks for hte crits
@Prosto-mogy: +1 to Reza's question
And here's some more random concepting:
Warlock demon: Blind Hunger
Big mouth + mouth hands + teeth spikes everywhere
BTW 6500tris for lod0... insane
some progress
Not sure if this is his technique, but if you downscale in Photoshop using bicubic sharper to 512x512, do an unsharp mask, then downscale it again to 256x256, you get much cleaner textures than if you let dota downscale it for you.
Example I made a while ago showing this:
In this image what I did, and do to down sample my textures, is I will first change the image size, making it smaller by half using bicubic sharper, then this image will have a smart sharp filter applied, at around 5-15% depending on the texture. I will then change the image size to the in-game limit again using bicubic sharper. A little tedious, maybe a bit overkill, but in all my tests this has given me the best results
Set done! Sending it to variant who will be uploading it
Hey sir! I think you could work a little more on the set before considering it done
your textures could have some gradient colors and be less one flat color, they look a little low resolution, would you mind showing the uvs? we could give some good advices on it
also, it looks you model could use more detail on the normal map, are you using a highpoly mesh to bake the details on the model?
cheers!
Well, I did do a high poly version of it, and I did find an issue when I imported the set. Firstly, it didn't seem like the normal map or the masks were working on the shoulders, head, bracers, and belt item, but on the weapon and shield they worked fine. Secondly for the textures, I didn't know any other way I could have improved it honestly. And I was working on 256x256 texture maps the whole time, so that might be why the set doesn't look very high quality
"colour variation" i guess.
i watch this from 2 meter it is a piece of purple and gold highlight blend together... i'm having trouble finding head part for first 2 minutes when i watching this picture on my desk
There are a lot of simple and quick things you can do that would improve your texture a lot.
Try painting with different tones to give it more depth - using a lighter tone to highlight the most proeminent parts of folds and edges of those golden parts, darker tones to accentuate shaded areas, etc. - you'll see the difference (:
Bear in mind that generally a texture isn't much different from a painting, especially in a game like Dota 2, you can't rely solely on normalmaps and lighting effects to make your model stand out.
One of those is just the regular lion body + the head item i made just with a lambert, with textures and high quality on just in the perspective viewing window. The only thing on both of these is their normal map, no textures. The one on the left has some lighting that I tried to put in, but it looks really bad... When I turn to the right side of his face I get this mess happening:
and then turning to the right gives me this:
Despite there being no lights in this version of the scene... plus even ignoring lighting, the normal maps even on the body look really dreadful. I realise I messed up the head and it will probably look bad even when lit correctly, but I cant get it to even look remotely normal even on the body and it makes no sense. when I add a texture to the body it also has this weird seethrough effect on certain parts, with areas like the back of his waist being shown over the front and same around his chin area. This is all on maya 2012. I have no idea where to begin google searching.. if someone can pull me out of this mess (ideally without just throwing my computer in a fire) i would really appreciate it
Btw, I'm having problem with Storm Spirit's models. I downloaded the models from Valve's technical requirements page just a few days ago, opened the .MA file with Maya. The problem I'm having is that Maya won't let me select the models unless I do right click>select all. Also, all of his bones are hidden and I can't make them appear no matter what I do. The weird thing is any other .MA files I open don't have this problem, only Storm Spirit has it. Any one knows how to fix it?
@Pipotchi
I've just tested his model, with the normal map. I think you may have the Bump2d node set to object space normals, not tangent space as seen in the image above. Swap that over and you should be right to go.
@SeeingTriangles
Storm Spirits Joints are on a layer that is hidden by default.
Also his geo has been set to refernce,( the little R ) turn that off and you can select the mesh in viewport
not great but at least its normal now (pun intended). i think i have one side of my normals reversed although im finding it difficult to tell. looking at the face normals they are all pointing outwards but something still looks a bit wrong. i can work it out from here though i think, ty again
did you offset half your mesh before you baked? that can bork your normals a lot. maya's viewport previews are generally pretty dodgy though, best to check it out ingame first
the transparency's cause maya automatically connects the alpha on 32 bit textures to the transparency node on your material. so basically all the volvo materials will do that, and again, maya is really dodgy with viewport alpha, so it's best to disable that
Thanks a lot guys. that's very useful!
About the texture size, some artist including myself, use to work on a higher resolution file: for a 256 x 256 it is common to work on 1024 x 1024 and then downscale when you are finished
I remembered another good thing, try to make some contrasts with the textures, your texture needs to work on black and white, be recognizable and easy to read even without saturation.
I hope this may help
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=399394816
Please Vote
Treasure of the Shrouded_Myth
I hope these included untealeased sets, that were accepted, like teased in the blog
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2xakg8/new_items_in_the_update/?sort=new
Cyborgmatt tweeted this
"Speaking of hats I wonder if we are about to get an update with the New Bloom chest, BTS chest and WePlay chest all arriving at once. Wooooo"
If there were a total of 5 treasures, then you can expect a LOT of sets getting in.
Maybe they will, maybe they wont. We'll find out soon!
@Toasty Something like that I would have to see released to believe it lol. Is the first list of sets a treasure? I don't even see sets with those names in the workshop for new bloom.
If they truly are intending to release that many treasures, that would be much more appropriate, considering their hype and the amount of quality sets made.
I think that's very likely, however I don't know of any other way valve could 'catch up' otherwise, there's far too many great sets coming in at a rate that outpaces valve, so a big dump like this could be beneficial. The only thing strange to me is if they choose to do it in the middle of an 'event'
well that's just answered one question! Grats to all artists with a set included!
Thanks! I made a gif to show how I did the hair.
The small hair lines don't use alpha, I added them to hide the low texture res in the portrait view.
Awesome stuff, thanks for sharing.
Take a look, and give a vote/feedback if you feel its deserving.
If you don’t see your favorite New Bloom set in either treasure, don’t fret. The community created so many exceptional designs this year that there was no way we could get them all out in time for New Bloom’s end. We’ll be releasing many more sets submitted for New Bloom with future treasures.
Its interesting too, they said "sets" not items, singles might actually be dead.....
And i think that they should just throw them(singles, if they are good ofc) in to the random drop system that way the artists atleast get their art out and they could get worth much on the market hence they are only obtainable by the random drop system that way the artist could earn a small amount of money based on the market transactions. Just a little idea. :-D