I think you guys are taking these guideline suggestions a little too seriously
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I believe it's like michaelceanu stated in post before, and what teabiscuit found out. It doesn't mean you're suddenly restricted of everything. I believe Valve just wants to avoid ''EVERYTHING IS DRAGON''. Save your dragons for... 2023 apparently.
I'm just a tad disappointed to see another contest with the Chinese New Year theme. The guidelines look fine to me, but competing over a holiday theme for a seasonal event is something I have trouble getting excited about. If I'm gonna spend a ton of time on a set, I want to minimize the chances of accidentally stepping on other peoples' toes (and possibly wasting that time) as much as I can. Which usually means staying away from stuff like this, as much as I love contests in general. No big deal, though.
Apparently in this version they reworked the hockey stick that before Valve asked to ditch because it was "against dota lore".
Just my supposition, correct me if i'm wrong...
Apparently in this version they reworked the hockey stick that before Valve asked to ditch because it was "against dota lore".
Just my supposition, correct me if i'm wrong...
yes, they rework after the MVP phoenix skateboard courier was approved...XD
that is why skateboard can be approve but not a hockey stick
Skateboards are absolutely in Dota 2 Lore.....it's the first thing Abzidian forged years before the Demon Edge....then he broke an ankle trying to kickflip it.
Yeah, what those guys said! The animations of the original version have been reworked, and we've submitted this for consideration as a style of the one currently in-game.
I think excluding chinese characters (which is probably so items are more lore friendly) and dragons makes the theme feel a lot more restrictive this year. Wonder what people would come up with.
Having the New Bloom event is also making me consider delaying the release of my AM set till after New Bloom. Either that or I'd want to release it before the whole New Bloom craze gets underway on the workshop.
Speaking of which, I went back and redid the colours.
Also, here's a look at the full set together for the first time with final masks and everything. I'm very happy with the new colour scheme and new items. But the old visor is in dire need of at least a retexture and the belt's rune details don't fit with the other items. No rest for the weary huh.
@Motenai - Looks like a good start. But I would also agree that it looks a bit more on the Japanese side. The looseness is what's making it read like a kimono inspired outfit. From what I've seen Chinese dresses tend to be a bit more fitted.
i probably agree with you guys, but i also decided that i'm not gonna take Valve rules so strictly, i kinda wanna add some of my vision and taste to it....i might fix some things here and there, and maybe bring back chinese themes when i decorate the skirt.
Thanks for your opinions though, always appreciated
@Motenai - Looks like a good start. But I would also agree that it looks a bit more on the Japanese side. The looseness is what's making it read like a kimono inspired outfit. From what I've seen Chinese dresses tend to be a bit more fitted.
Japanese kimono and Korean hanbok evolved from traditional Chinese hanfu, which is a separate clothing style from the relatively "modern" Manchu Qing dynasty clothing that most people automatically associate with traditional Chinese attire (e.g. qipao/cheongsam), yet only arose about 350 years ago.
Going to agree with everyone else that it looks more japanese (mane/horns remind me of oni, and the detached sleeves). But also wanted to chime in that there are dynasties where chinese dresses are flowing. While the skirt can't quite be pinned down to a time period, it looks like it could influenced by some.
well Valve didn't asked to copy chinese clothes they asked to not mix different cultural elements.
also since New Bloom isn't one-time event i'd like to hear from Valve lore-wise explanation how China is related to dota. is it magically exist in both our and dota-world?
Motenai- Its looking great, and I think once you get to the details you can really sell it as Chinese.
RAMMING SPEED! Just started working on my Drow, was thinking a conch braid with a ram horn head piece may be cool, and the rest will be more inspired by Chinese armor, and I think the details are what will help it read more Chinese
well Valve didn't asked to copy chinese clothes they asked to not mix different cultural elements.
also since New Bloom isn't one-time event i'd like to hear from Valve lore-wise explanation how China is related to dota. is it magically exist in both our and dota-world?
I dont think it exists in dota, hence why they asked to avoid Chinese characters. My take on it is that they just want art that is Chinese or spring themed to appeal to Chinese players without implying that such culture exists in dota.
I quickly concepted this for New Bloom this afternoon....not sure if i'll go for this idea, but i don't mind it for now...
you can maintain that cloth, just need add more some chinese style jewelry will do. like jade, chinese loves jade. :v
style wise i think you already know oriental styling.
TRUST ME, i'm 100% pure e̶n̶g̶i̶n̶e̶e̶r̶ chinese (but not mainland chinese)
i can speak mandarin too : 橘子
extra tips: seems like no one making batrider. because Bat is a good sign for chinese too. because bat pronounce as "蝙蝠" , the "蝠" actually is same pronunciation with "福", happiness.
here is the jade bat.
One of the most common greetings is happiness, good fortune and blessing. "福" (fú), The actually piece of paper is also referred to as "福字" or (fú zì, meaning blessing character). Often the blessing character is hung upside down. One interpretation of this practice is that it is a play on the words. "福倒了" (fú dào le, means " 'fu' upside down"), but it sounds the same as "福到了" (fú dào le), which means blessing has arrived.
^ that one is true, but i'm not sure hanging "bat/ happinese" upside down actually coincidence with this or not lol.
extra tips: seems like no one making batrider. because Bat is a good sign for chinese too. because bat pronounce as "蝙蝠" , the "蝠" actually is same pronunciation with "福", happiness.
Hey ,we're working on something for him, I hope we can show something soon.=]
Has many heroes that can be worked without any rams' horns.
extra tips: seems like no one making batrider. because Bat is a good sign for chinese too. because bat pronounce as "蝙蝠" , the "蝠" actually is same pronunciation with "福", happiness.
Finally, it has been a bumpy ride for all of us who worked on this set but we believe it turned out great. Lumberclaw set for Timbersaw comes with all items replacements, loading screen and custom particles for spells and chainsaw.
Honestly I never thought it will be this daunting to make a set for Timbersaw. He is huge! Especially with the tight texture budget on the shoulders item. Additionally, get the reactive armor tested is not straight forward.
Modeling and base texture by Vayne
Texture finalization and loading screen by Oroboros [Red Moon]
Particles and SFM video by Drew Carrymore
We would appreciate your support for our latest work.
Damn! How did you get it! Oh I see, Oro uploaded the big one on loading screen submission! So much for my exclusivity XD! But yeah, it is amazing and I am using it too!
It would be kind of cool to have a western zodiac themed event too, but since the zodiac changes every month, there's no real good time for it. Plus, the only time you hear about it is from newspaper horoscopes and loonies. Western audiences just doesn't pay attention to it.
Quick question as I wasn't making items or playing Dota this time last year. Are we expecting a new patch of sets to be released this month and in January before the New Bloom event?
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Oh my goodness.
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I believe it's like michaelceanu stated in post before, and what teabiscuit found out. It doesn't mean you're suddenly restricted of everything. I believe Valve just wants to avoid ''EVERYTHING IS DRAGON''. Save your dragons for... 2023 apparently.
Anyway, MORE BEARZKY CRAP!
http://www.dota2.com/store/itemdetails/20598
Just my supposition, correct me if i'm wrong...
yes, they rework after the MVP phoenix skateboard courier was approved...XD
that is why skateboard can be approve but not a hockey stick
Having the New Bloom event is also making me consider delaying the release of my AM set till after New Bloom. Either that or I'd want to release it before the whole New Bloom craze gets underway on the workshop.
Speaking of which, I went back and redid the colours.
Also, here's a look at the full set together for the first time with final masks and everything. I'm very happy with the new colour scheme and new items. But the old visor is in dire need of at least a retexture and the belt's rune details don't fit with the other items. No rest for the weary huh.
This is seriously awesome
^^Clickable^^
-Toasty
Thanks for your opinions though, always appreciated
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanfu
https://www.google.com/search?q=hanfu&biw=1396&bih=1261&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=qYWHVIaSBYr1oASHtoCADg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
Japanese kimono and Korean hanbok evolved from traditional Chinese hanfu, which is a separate clothing style from the relatively "modern" Manchu Qing dynasty clothing that most people automatically associate with traditional Chinese attire (e.g. qipao/cheongsam), yet only arose about 350 years ago.
also since New Bloom isn't one-time event i'd like to hear from Valve lore-wise explanation how China is related to dota. is it magically exist in both our and dota-world?
RAMMING SPEED! Just started working on my Drow, was thinking a conch braid with a ram horn head piece may be cool, and the rest will be more inspired by Chinese armor, and I think the details are what will help it read more Chinese
I dont think it exists in dota, hence why they asked to avoid Chinese characters. My take on it is that they just want art that is Chinese or spring themed to appeal to Chinese players without implying that such culture exists in dota.
you can maintain that cloth, just need add more some chinese style jewelry will do. like jade, chinese loves jade. :v
style wise i think you already know oriental styling.
TRUST ME, i'm 100% pure e̶n̶g̶i̶n̶e̶e̶r̶ chinese (but not mainland chinese)
i can speak mandarin too : 橘子
extra tips: seems like no one making batrider. because Bat is a good sign for chinese too. because bat pronounce as "蝙蝠" , the "蝠" actually is same pronunciation with "福", happiness.
here is the jade bat.
^ that one is true, but i'm not sure hanging "bat/ happinese" upside down actually coincidence with this or not lol.
Hey ,we're working on something for him, I hope we can show something soon.=]
Has many heroes that can be worked without any rams' horns.
http://aminebjd.deviantart.com/art/flying-goat-295131791
Alpha channel of the diffuse texture.
Check the .vmt to see if alphatest 1 is present:
It looks like ember spirit does support alpha test. It's only a 1 bit alpha though -- no partial transparency.
Honestly I never thought it will be this daunting to make a set for Timbersaw. He is huge! Especially with the tight texture budget on the shoulders item. Additionally, get the reactive armor tested is not straight forward.
Modeling and base texture by Vayne
Texture finalization and loading screen by Oroboros [Red Moon]
Particles and SFM video by Drew Carrymore
We would appreciate your support for our latest work.
(Link in image)
Custom Q Spell:
Custom Chakram:
Custom Chainsaw Particle:
Portrait View:
P.S. Sorry for the spam!
Damn the quality of sets is getting really high!
Hope to get something up again in a few weeks..
Btw about the new bloom 2015, it says to create items based around the chinese new year. Does this mean we will see single item chest again?
No one ever said you can't make single items.
I know, but after the whole single item discussions I just wondered if we would see single item chest again..
No one knows. I still believe they'll put singles in in the future, and I think they will for this event.
I guess that's ok for security purposes.
Edit: It's all back. They must have done some filtering/scanning thing.
I think so! Thanks!
I thought that was a Brewmaster weapon at first until I read the description! XD
Probably not... but who knows?
Anyway, there's also diretide.
Thanks a lot
Toasty
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