The BRAWL² Tournament Challenge has been announced!
It starts May 12, and ends Sept 12. Let's see what you got!
https://polycount.com/discussion/237047/the-brawl²-tournament
It starts May 12, and ends Sept 12. Let's see what you got!
https://polycount.com/discussion/237047/the-brawl²-tournament
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Re: [WIP] Triumph Rocket 3R Bike (SubD Model)
More parts. Will probably revisit those pieces and fix some minor shading and topology issues
kosh3d
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Re: BRAWL2 [Character] Sodom, Fabi_G
Long time no update, feels like work has taken over my life 
Pyro
Or hand-painted diffuse, like Quake skins?
Also, I started painting a greyscale texture to use in the shader. I need to check here that it works at various distances. In regards to readability, hatching (if used, might go more bold) might be something to do in the shader and the line weights should be consistent in the end.
Alternative Outfit Ideas
'Humungus'Pyro
Style
Something in the direction of 'Mad World' - black and white even?!Or hand-painted diffuse, like Quake skins?
Minimal Progress
Since last update, I tweaked the model some. Tried different poses to get better result with the humanoid/anim retarget of Unity. I now use a T-Pose with mostly straightened limbs. With the A-Pose, some rotations were slightly off. I created hand poses to blend on top. Perhaps it would be best to create a custom pose in the end. I'll see.Also, I started painting a greyscale texture to use in the shader. I need to check here that it works at various distances. In regards to readability, hatching (if used, might go more bold) might be something to do in the shader and the line weights should be consistent in the end.
Fabi_G
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Re: BRAWL2 [Character] Bratan, masslove
I've had a minor back surgery, thus a month of silence
Also, I hate the blockout stage, constantly trying to get things right, stalling into constant micro-tweaks, which often turn out for worse
Nevertheless, pushing on!
masslove
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Re: How The F*#% Do I Model This? - Reply for help with specific shapes - (Post attempt before asking)
Zoddo said:Got stuck trying to remove the star shapes on this piece, does anyone know an easier to fix this?
Just a quick mobile drawing. Collapse red, remove pink
Neox
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Re: AI Art, Good or Bad? A (hopefully) nuanced take on the subject.
Oh by the way, I should also probably mention the following as it is a bit of a personal journey : a few years ago (way before the emergence of slop machines like ChatGPT and Midjourney), developments in the field of machine learning made me daydream about the possible ways of, for instance, sketching a rough shape and getting it shaded automatically by leveraging ML training, or getting a 3D primitive oriented according to a gesture, or various ways of overcoming the (still to this day) clunkiness of wacom tablets as all these things sounded like natural evolutions of our digital tools.
Fast forward to today, now that these challenges have been solved and AI software is widely available to all, I personally find such things utterly uninteresting because the "solving" that AI does goes so far that it completely replace any skills. So now I would gladly go back to manually placing primitives in 3D space in a 3D software if I needed ; or painstakingly constructing things by hand using old ass perspective drawing techniques, or taking the time to build a mannequin to take photos of ... not only because it's fun, but also because it does make one improve ! Quite ironic at the end of the day
Fast forward to today, now that these challenges have been solved and AI software is widely available to all, I personally find such things utterly uninteresting because the "solving" that AI does goes so far that it completely replace any skills. So now I would gladly go back to manually placing primitives in 3D space in a 3D software if I needed ; or painstakingly constructing things by hand using old ass perspective drawing techniques, or taking the time to build a mannequin to take photos of ... not only because it's fun, but also because it does make one improve ! Quite ironic at the end of the day
pior
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Re: Xenomite-X (The apex predator of WAR)
Hey everyone! 👋
I’ve just started working on the texturing for my major project and wanted to share a WIP first draft to get some early impressions.
This is still very much in progress, so please excuse the unfinished areas, especially the rear hydraulics, which I haven’t started yet. The front hydraulics are a good example of the look I’m aiming for across the entire mech: slightly weathered, grounded in realism, with some subtle grime and wear in the crevices.
Would LOVE to hear any feedback you might have, about materials, color balance, roughness values, or anything that feels off.
Crits are very welcome and appreciated! 🙏
Thanks in advance—I’ll be updating this thread as I refine things!
akshattejas
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Re: How The F*#% Do I Model This? - Reply for help with specific shapes - (Post attempt before asking)
@Veer_P It's generally considered best practice to block out the forms from largest to smallest. Keep things simple at first. This makes it easier to adjust the larger shapes and place geometry where it's needed to support smaller shapes and shape intersections. Work through the block out in stages and only add smaller details once the larger shapes are accurately defined and the basic topology flow smooths cleanly.
Below is an example of what this iterative block out process could look like: Start with relatively simple geometry that captures the overall shape and contours of the object then increase the mesh density as required, by adding loops with loop cut and bevel / chamfer operations or by applying the subdivision, until there's enough geometry to support the next smallest surface features.
Adjust the topology layout as required to turn corners around shapes and redirect the loop flow that defines the narrower edges between some of the shape transitions.
Below is an example of what this iterative block out process could look like: Start with relatively simple geometry that captures the overall shape and contours of the object then increase the mesh density as required, by adding loops with loop cut and bevel / chamfer operations or by applying the subdivision, until there's enough geometry to support the next smallest surface features.
Adjust the topology layout as required to turn corners around shapes and redirect the loop flow that defines the narrower edges between some of the shape transitions.
Here's an additional (front) view of the topology layout around the part.
There's more than one way to approach the order of operations and topology flow. Which approach makes the most sense and how complex the base mesh should be depends entirely on how accurate and detailed the final high poly mesh needs to be.
For something like this, it probably makes sense to keep the mesh relatively simple while creating the basic shapes and setting up the loop flow around the sharper edges then apply one or two levels of subdivision before adding the smaller details like the drain and screw holes.
Some additional write-ups that cover the iterative block out process:
https://polycount.com/discussion/comment/2751240/#Comment_2751240
https://polycount.com/discussion/comment/2751340/#Comment_2751340
https://polycount.com/discussion/comment/2776197/#Comment_2776197
@Zoddo The solution provided by @Neox should cleanly resolve your mesh to all quads.
Briefly adding to that: occasionally there's a subtle smoothing artifact near pole vertices and it may be necessary to adjust the vertex's height so it's consistent with the surrounding geometry. Usually it's not an issue but sometimes star poles can leave little dimples on compound curves, even after they're resolved to quads.
On surfaces that have compound curves like this, sometimes the corner details are constrained by the number and size of the radial segments and other times it's the circumferential segments that are the limiting factor. Ideally the number of segments in the curve will line up with and support the corners and any intersecting shapes.
Below is an example of how segment spacing impacts the size and quality of rounded corners on shapes with compound curves. Increasing the segment count does tend to increase the accuracy but how much geometry is required to hold the shapes really depends on the size of these details and the desired sharpness or quality of the corners.
Briefly adding to that: occasionally there's a subtle smoothing artifact near pole vertices and it may be necessary to adjust the vertex's height so it's consistent with the surrounding geometry. Usually it's not an issue but sometimes star poles can leave little dimples on compound curves, even after they're resolved to quads.
On surfaces that have compound curves like this, sometimes the corner details are constrained by the number and size of the radial segments and other times it's the circumferential segments that are the limiting factor. Ideally the number of segments in the curve will line up with and support the corners and any intersecting shapes.
Below is an example of how segment spacing impacts the size and quality of rounded corners on shapes with compound curves. Increasing the segment count does tend to increase the accuracy but how much geometry is required to hold the shapes really depends on the size of these details and the desired sharpness or quality of the corners.
It tends to be a lot easier to work through the basic shapes first, adjusting the segment spacing of the curves whenever possible to match edge and corner details. This also makes it a lot easier to solve any topology routing issues and avoid creating poles out in the middle of a curved surface. After the basic topology flow is solved the support loops around the edge of the shape can be added with a simple bevel / chamfer operation.
FrankPolygon
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Re: [WIP] Triumph Rocket 3R Bike (SubD Model)
Modeling is finally finished! This took way too long. I learned a ton during this project so I take that as a success 
Have to test a few things and decide how I want to render that.
kosh3d
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Re: Classic Art Inspiration for Game Artists
Well ... the search seems broken at this time, as searching for the name of an artist doesn't necessarily bring up paintings by said artist. I just searched for "Waterhouse" and none of his paintings showed up in the (many) results on display. Yet a regular search engine like DDG (or a stuffy local library, for that matter ) does the job perfectly fine ...
Regardless of the intent of the website (exploring a space of visually similar things, if I understand correctly), searching for something as specific as an artist name should bring accurate results, or nothing at all if not referenced.
Also the title of the website itself gives a sus vibe, as "imagine more art" makes it sounds like one of the many AI generators out there.
The analysis tool being locked behind a login is another not-quite-red-but-almost-red flag IMHO. And then it seems to lead to a completely unrelated product advertised as "Unlock world-class creative feedback to elevate your art". So if this is just a thinly veiled attempt to onboard people into some kind of "AI feedback" generator, thanks but no thanks (or at least, just be upfront about it).
) does the job perfectly fine ...Regardless of the intent of the website (exploring a space of visually similar things, if I understand correctly), searching for something as specific as an artist name should bring accurate results, or nothing at all if not referenced.
Also the title of the website itself gives a sus vibe, as "imagine more art" makes it sounds like one of the many AI generators out there.
The analysis tool being locked behind a login is another not-quite-red-but-almost-red flag IMHO. And then it seems to lead to a completely unrelated product advertised as "Unlock world-class creative feedback to elevate your art". So if this is just a thinly veiled attempt to onboard people into some kind of "AI feedback" generator, thanks but no thanks (or at least, just be upfront about it).
pior
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