EU vs. USA?
polycounter lvl 18
Just a random idea:
If someone were to make a not too realistic (but well balanced, of course) MP FPS or RTS title depicting a fictional war between the US and the EU, let's call it Battlefield Europe, what characteristics would both sides have? (imagine trade of technology stopped some time ago)
If someone were to make a not too realistic (but well balanced, of course) MP FPS or RTS title depicting a fictional war between the US and the EU, let's call it Battlefield Europe, what characteristics would both sides have? (imagine trade of technology stopped some time ago)
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I think it'd probably balance out quite evenly.
I´m not going to comment on this or I´ll be classed as the person starting the real war
But it really comes down to... Which country has the most ninjas?
edit: oh wait, the Swedish could use their deathmetal genre music pumped through loud speakers to scare away all the bible thumping american soldiers.
Has France ever won a war since Napoleon? WW1 didn't go to well for them. They got steamrolled in WW2. The Indochina/Vietnam war went pretty badly for them too.
Hmmmm....
MoP: Hm, yeah, though I guess the Texans don't have a chance because of the rampart teamkilling.
Hm, make US soldiers see one out of ten friendlies as an enemy?
Scott
There's a funny footnote in one of Bruce Sterling's recent books, 'Distraction', in which the future US declares war on, uh, The Netherlands. But it's over in about three days, and nobody mobilizes jack, and the Prez does it as a PR stunt. Go figure.
Anyone else here old enough to remember the day in '73 when Nixon put the US military on full alert? For a single day? It was during Watergate. No surprise there.
/jzero
as for a EU v USA FPS, would the USA still use M4s? or wotever they use now?, and the EU would use some sortof HK weaponary. hey , at least no one would have trouble manufacturing again, going from metric to impirial , and back again...
Europeans.. uhhh.. who >.>
I think they would both win..
I'm a hippy..
I LOVE EARTH!!
*Covers up not to get flamed*
apaches, tigers, augusta mongoose
ef-2000s, mig-29s (germans have them), tornados
challengers, leopard IIs
hk g36s, steyr AUGs, FN FALs, HK mp5s, HK mp-9s
USA
apaches, huey cobras
f-22s, F-117s, B-2s, B-52s, b-1s, F-15s, f-16s, F/A-18s f-14s
abrams 2s
m-4s, M-16s, barret light 50s, MAC-10s
units:
EU
SAS, royal marines, SBS, paras, royal dutch marines, fallschirmjagers, KSK, norweigan jaegers to take alaska, belgian para-commandos
USA
special forces, navy SEALS, rangers, 160th SOAR, 101st airborne, buncha CIA officers who can't find their ass with a recon sat.
oh, hang on ... sorry, this is a fictional game?
Hmmm, maybe there's something wrong with US 'cause they want to fight always.
Cowboys.
America doesn't know what's a real war -... in Your country , at Your home , in front of Your windows and doors. When all Your buildings fell down, no bus , no tram, there's nothing to eat and drink 'cause all industry is destroyed and your children are hungry and crying, nowhere to go , nowhere to hide .....and x millions innocents civils is dying .... not soldiers , but innocents. That's the real war ( no Hollywoods movies ).
I'm sorry but Your idea is verry bad ....
PLEASE , MAKE A VIDEOS GAMES MORE FUN, NOT WAR
... AND NO POLITICS AND RELIGIOUS
SHITS AT THIS GREAT AND UNIQUE FORUM. ONLY ART .
Seriously guys, lets just shake hands and eat some bacon.
What's wrong with EU that You want to make a war against.
Hmmm, maybe there's something wrong with US 'cause they want to fight always.
Cowboys.
America doesn't know what's a real war -... in Your country , at Your home , in front of Your windows and doors. When all Your buildings fell down, no bus , no tram, there's nothing to eat and drink 'cause all industry is destroyed and your children are hungry and crying, nowhere to go , nowhere to hide .....and x millions innocents civils is dying .... not soldiers , but innocents. That's the real war ( no Hollywoods movies ).
I'm sorry but Your idea is verry bad ....
PLEASE , MAKE A VIDEOS GAMES MORE FUN, NOT WAR
... AND NO POLITICS AND RELIGIOUS
SHITS AT THIS GREAT AND UNIQUE FORUM. ONLY ART .
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You missed the point.
GAME
I look forward to the insight from mr. Cain.
Scott
But in a game.
Scott
America will win the prisoner torturing mini-game!
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You're not serious are you?
This is a fun topic. With an expanded EU in theory they'd have more firepower than us, but there's some doubt that they could work well together, so they get a penalty to attack and an increased chance of friendly fire casualties(we get a bonus on covering it up). The europeans are a bunch of peaceniks so they run a high chance of riots if military spending gets too high, penalty to war budgets.
I've got to think that occupying the US has got to be one of the most difficult things to do. How do you subdue a bunch of gun totting religious fanatics that think god's ok with blowing the heads off a couple of frogs(this sounds familiar)?
It'd make an interesting game though I think it'd be more interesting to play as the euros(strategize/compromise), though I'd lose on purpose everytime, at least I'd get a kick out of surrendering(skipping the obvious french joke).
Hmmm I seem to have forgotten to factor canada in... Oh well it's not like they'd make a difference either way.
Ok, have I offended everybody this time?
Same with the Australians. Decisive...
Scott
I dont think ive ever seen a game where USA is defending its own boarders , that would be quite a fun setting, well different. sorta famous cities that have been invaded and you have to take em back , or you are defending the last lines trying to keep the city under allied control.
as for a EU v USA FPS, would the USA still use M4s? or wotever they use now?, and the EU would use some sortof HK weaponary. hey , at least no one would have trouble manufacturing again, going from metric to impirial , and back again...
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http://www.pcgameworld.com/game.php/id/1899/Freedom_Fighters/
Freedom Fighters...
f'ing awesome game..
Soviet military comes in and quickly takes over the US, and you fight in the streets of the eastern US (NY and the like) as a rebel force to take back control.
I'll go ahead and apologize to anyone affected by the attack in Oklahoma.
I think Benton Fraser should be Canadas champion unit
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Ah, Howie Mandel is from God's Country also. I think we all know who would be running things.
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What's wrong with EU that You want to make a war against.
Hmmm, maybe there's something wrong with US 'cause they want to fight always.
Cowboys.
America doesn't know what's a real war -... in Your country , at Your home , in front of Your windows and doors. When all Your buildings fell down, no bus , no tram, there's nothing to eat and drink 'cause all industry is destroyed and your children are hungry and crying, nowhere to go , nowhere to hide .....and x millions innocents civils is dying .... not soldiers , but innocents. That's the real war ( no Hollywoods movies ).
I'm sorry but Your idea is verry bad ....
PLEASE , MAKE A VIDEOS GAMES MORE FUN, NOT WAR
... AND NO POLITICS AND RELIGIOUS
SHITS AT THIS GREAT AND UNIQUE FORUM. ONLY ART .
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You missed the point.
GAME
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You missed the point as well.The conception of games should be entertainment = pastine = to enjoy the game and his idea and not harmful or injurious.
Some games brings very bad ideas to person ( young -unripe ) which is playing games like this.
They are not able make a difference between games and reality and than they grow up with ideas as EU or US is the bad ... and the hate is born.
All want I want to say is - don't bring a politic and religion in a games.
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Actually diZzyWalnut american has experienced war up close and personal, we call it the civil war. Also, cowboys don't fight they tend cattle, please stop using that term.
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Are You talking about a war Nord/South = only one ; and be sure that I'm happy for US that there is no more war like this on US ground ... ,but I remind You that in Europe's history, there was several wars like this (even worst), You know it ?
That's why the position "peaceful" mine and Europe present.
The game shouldn't fall into the hands of unripe persons but that's the job of the rating system and responsible parents. Just because some people might not like or be able to handle it doesn't mean it shouldn't be made as not everything can be completely harmless and unoffensive to everybody. Hell, some people shouldn't watch porn but try outlawing it.
I'm thinking that Sundance's list lacks a few ground vehicles. Stuff like artillery, jeeps, APCs and various missile launchers.
USA
MLRS, Humvees, M-113s, Avengers, Patriots
EU
land rovers, saracens, crotales
it's also missing squad automatic weapons, shoulder-fired SAMs and light anti-tank weapons...
There are US vs. Arabs, US vs. Russians and US vs. Chinese games -
[/ QUOTE ]But then again, the last two of those also show their non-US nations as having unlimited supplies of CanO'WhoopAss at their disposal!
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Games are cathartic, where we expunge our base impulses into the game, so we don't choke the shit out of our neighbors. Gaminng is not about Virtue, but excercising vice and expunging it in a safe manner.
Go do your homework.
Scott
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Actually diZzyWalnut american has experienced war up close and personal, we call it the civil war. Also, cowboys don't fight they tend cattle, please stop using that term.
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Are You talking about a war Nord/South = only one ; and be sure that I'm happy for US that there is no more war like this on US ground ... ,but I remind You that in Europe's history, there was several wars like this (even worst), You know it ?
That's why the position "peaceful" mine and Europe present.
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Hey guy that was the bloodiest war we were ever involved in, it was enough by itself. But we also had the war of texan independence and the war of 1812. And it's not like all those guys we sent to fight in wars across the world somehow missed out on the horrors of war because it wasn't happening in their hometown. For good or ill americans know war. But we're getting off track since what we're really talking about is a videogame, this isn't a serious talk on a real war between the US and the eu, so relax.
it was just mine opinion ( position personal ),
nothing against blood-violence, cause I like games as Silent Hill,HL2,Doom3, etc., but I don't like the game of war which could be present as a possibility of future war between the nations , continents pr
Germany would blitzkrig trough your whole country.=DDD
Dont listen to me, im just trying to stir things up.;)
/Palm