The similarities to How to Train your dragon are rather reinforced here - it looks rather like the same story with dragons swapped with bears. I'm beginning to wonder with the superfluous Cars sequel (The original Cars is rather under appreciated, and that's coming from someone who developed two games based on it and has watched it lord only knows how many times), the Monster's Inc sequel, the possibility of a superfluous Toy Story sequel and then this... I'm not sure what you'd call it exactly, but it seems to happen a lot in animation with two very similarly themed movies popping up at the same time (How to Train Your Dragon 2 will probably be out around about the same time). It seems like there's beginning to be a lot more corporate decision making going on at Pixar when it comes to choosing movies, whether influenced by Disney or not. It seems rather unfortunate. One wonders whether we'll ever see any of their weirder or more experimental ideas appear in again.
Why are there so many people posting comments on the video's Youtube page along the lines of "she has no soul?" I don't understand why people are so critical and mean. The movie looks like fun to me.
Why are there so many people posting comments on the video's Youtube page along the lines of "she has no soul?" I don't understand why people are so critical and mean. The movie looks like fun to me.
I found the characters a bit odd looking, and oh man that new hair system is really distracting. Faces are simple and plane, whereas the hair is very volumetric, always moving, and noisy; typical case where a new tech is loved a bit too much and overused.
In typical bullshit Disney-Pixar style, this film comes out in June in the US, but December in the UK.
They'll of course blame the poor sales in the UK on piracy, not customers buying the DVD from the States for less than the cost of going to the cinema.
In typical bullshit Disney-Pixar style, this film comes out in June in the US, but December in the UK.
They'll of course blame the poor sales in the UK on piracy, not customers buying the DVD from the States for less than the cost of going to the cinema.
It actually has to do with Marketing budget allocation. This problem exacarbates piracy, it doesnt help it. For instance, Ratatouille was also released very late in Europe, so I ended up watching a cam version. Still saw it in the cinema twice though.
Honestly, I think a company as big as Disney / Pixar is capable of handling marketing in two regions at the same time, and other companies don't do this. The fact that they do do it, really does exacerbate piracy, not further helped by the obscene price fixing of movie-going in the UK, and Disney forcibly shortening the length of the running the film to eight weeks on threat of not distributing to those cinema chains in future so that they can release their merchandising and tie ins within whatever magical windows they aim for.
The last movie I went to see cost over $50 USD for the both of us. Importing the DVD from the US costs $20, or more often than not, importing it from Asia can cost as little as $10, and you get to see the film 6 months earlier (or the time everyone is talking about it online, of course).
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOmc2GzWtSE"]Brave trailer - Disney Pixar - Only at the Movies June 21 - YouTube[/ame]
New Trailer. I think we can safely banish any worries that Pixar having lost their touch after the rather poor Cars 2.
I'm really liking the banter between the different characters.
That trailer is a billion times more captivating than the American version.
I was already excited to see it, and now I'm just about to run around in circles in excitement.
I like that Japanese trailer, it made me much more excited to see the movie. I swear the American version just has the snot nose kid and the old man lifting his kilt saying "feast yar eyes!" It's really been a big turn off. I got enough Mater humor in Cars2, its the main reason that movie stunk so bad.
I know the kilt lift must be a great laugh line but its worn out already and constantly associating your new brand with something that makes people cringe isn't a wise move...
I think Pixar/Disney are just marketing Brave to their established fanbase in the most familiar way. Also, I think that by minimizing the story details that are revealed in the trailer that it will mean that the film retains a lot of surprises for the audience.
I do see a big Studio Ghibli influence on Brave, particularly in this new Japanese trailer. Tonally it feels that touch darker and more mystical, which is a great thing, I think. Can't wait to see this film.
I do see a big Studio Ghibli influence on Brave, particularly in this new Japanese trailer. Tonally it feels that touch darker and more mystical, which is a great thing, I think. Can't wait to see this film.
Me too. The whole spirit of the forest thing is very Ghibli. "Merida and the Forest of Fear" - putting the little title on the end also shows a bit of Ghibli as well I've noticed, but I'm not hugely into Anime so I don't think if that's a thing.
Ok, just got back from seeing it at an advanced screening. This is very worth it to see. Very funny, animation and generally all 3D elements are top notch. Very Pixar quality which is always the best. Great story and La Luna is very ... cute. Everyone needs to see this!
Fuck Disney and their staggered release dates. This doesn't come out until the end of August here, despite the fact every other English speaking territory gets it this week.
Scotland mysteriously gets it two weeks before England, Ireland or Wales.
Taiwan, Chile, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Vietnam, the Ukraine all get it before the UK (as does the bulk of Europe and the majority of other nations)
How hard is it to release a film in one language at a similar time to everyone else? It's not 1950 anymore, you don't have to ship loads of reels of film across the Atlantic.
Does someone know if the Movie hits japan in a dubbed or subbed version? i hope subbed i just love the scottish accent of all the characters and i just love craig ferguson so it's a must see anyway.
The reviews from the Australian critics have been surprisingly mediocre. Not bad reviews like Cars 2 was getting, but 3 out of 5 kinda level with suggestions that it comes off as being a bit flat and poorly paced at times.
I'm still inclined to check it out at the cinema if I can manage to scratch together the exorbitant amount of money necessary to do so, but I'll have to take along a nice lady in case my attention wavers.
Scotland mysteriously gets it two weeks before England, Ireland or Wales.
What a mystery! Let's get our best men on this.
joking aside - staggered release dates are based on marketing, logistics and the cultural movie watching differences around the world. For instance, what are your plans for the 4th of July?
That may be the excuse; but their release schedule makes very little sense at all (E.g. Scotland getting the film two weeks before the rest of the UK - that's like Texas getting it two weeks after Oklahoma; it just doesn't happen because it's nonsense).
Countries getting it this weekend are Australia, New Zealand, Russia, Slovenia, Ukraine, Canada, Taiwan, USA.
That's all the major English speaking states except the UK. Russia and the Ukraine have a russian language version. Slovenia? Slovenia will have English with subtitles - but the rest of Europe doesn't get it for five weeks including neighbouring Hungary who would want the same version. Taiwan? Clearly Chinese, however no other Chinese speaking nation will get it for another six weeks.
I feel really sorry for Poland. Whilst all their bordering nations get it in August, they have to inexpicably wait until mid October. Now Texas is getting the film three months after all it's neighbours.
Even so, their logistics have failed, since when the film does come out here, our local cinemas will be largely screening live coverage from the Olympics. If it had come out now, it would have no competition, no cultural conflicts and school holidays to boot.
Your cinemas show Olympics footage? I can't imagine that ever happening here for a whole bunch of reasons. Would folks actually pay to go out to the cinema to watch sport?
That may be the excuse; but their release schedule makes very little sense at all (E.g. Scotland getting the film two weeks before the rest of the UK - that's like Texas getting it two weeks after Oklahoma; it just doesn't happen because it's nonsense).
It's like the 2004 Alamo movie premiering in Texas 2 weeks prior to the rest of the US (which it did).
Your cinemas show Olympics footage? I can't imagine that ever happening here for a whole bunch of reasons. Would folks actually pay to go out to the cinema to watch sport?
You're forgetting that the 2012 Olympics are being held here. Not only that, ours is the most corporate ever; around half of the tickets got sold off at ridiculous prices to companies, so none of the people can actually see it otherwise anyway. Tickets for the mens 100 meter final for example are being sold for £27,000 (with a minimum order of 10)...
But that's getting offtopic, so let's elave the Olympic rant right there.
It's more the fact that we get the marketing the same time as the US - it's frustrating because you see adverts for something you won't actually get to see for another four-five months.
That may be the excuse; but their release schedule makes very little sense at all (E.g. Scotland getting the film two weeks before the rest of the UK - that's like Texas getting it two weeks after Oklahoma; it just doesn't happen because it's nonsense).
Scotland is a different nation, and I would be careful comparing it to 'just another English state'. It's not a state of another country.
The reason is ceremonial. It would be like releasing Ratatouille in France first. Just a nice gesture, not nonsense.
What I really dislike about Pixars schedule is how Europeans get gipped every second film and have to wait till October. Has something to do with marketing budgets I believe.
Scotland is not a state, it is a country that is part of the state that is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. England is the same.
Saw this over the weekend. Anyone else hit it up? It was a good movie, but for me, I dont think it was nearly as epic as it could have been, which is kinda unfortinate : \
I did feel the story felt a little short lived. Some of the scenes could've been explored a little more, or some of the sequences might've been extended to make them a little more impressive. But, i enjoyed it non the less. I welcomed the change from the other pixar movies. Thought this one got pretty gruesome and dark at some points. I hope they keep some movies in this tone.
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oh yeah. My bad. I could have sworn he had a jordie accent in Dog Soldiers and hearing he was from Newcastle or something.
Aaaagh! It's Geordie not jordie... just saying
Those character designs look really great CrazyFool - where are they from? Any more floating about?
The similarities to How to Train your dragon are rather reinforced here - it looks rather like the same story with dragons swapped with bears. I'm beginning to wonder with the superfluous Cars sequel (The original Cars is rather under appreciated, and that's coming from someone who developed two games based on it and has watched it lord only knows how many times), the Monster's Inc sequel, the possibility of a superfluous Toy Story sequel and then this... I'm not sure what you'd call it exactly, but it seems to happen a lot in animation with two very similarly themed movies popping up at the same time (How to Train Your Dragon 2 will probably be out around about the same time). It seems like there's beginning to be a lot more corporate decision making going on at Pixar when it comes to choosing movies, whether influenced by Disney or not. It seems rather unfortunate. One wonders whether we'll ever see any of their weirder or more experimental ideas appear in again.
But whatever, Hollywood machinations or no, Brave looks like it'll be a great film.
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Scotland had Bears, but they were wiped out by the Romans. Er...
Boudica fought the Romans in Whayles Boyo (born in Norfolk)
It's a meme, actually.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/gingers-do-have-souls
They'll of course blame the poor sales in the UK on piracy, not customers buying the DVD from the States for less than the cost of going to the cinema.
Pass. Seen it.
It actually has to do with Marketing budget allocation. This problem exacarbates piracy, it doesnt help it. For instance, Ratatouille was also released very late in Europe, so I ended up watching a cam version. Still saw it in the cinema twice though.
The last movie I went to see cost over $50 USD for the both of us. Importing the DVD from the US costs $20, or more often than not, importing it from Asia can cost as little as $10, and you get to see the film 6 months earlier (or the time everyone is talking about it online, of course).
New Trailer. I think we can safely banish any worries that Pixar having lost their touch after the rather poor Cars 2.
I'm really liking the banter between the different characters.
On a side note, DisneyToon Studio who used to do all of the crappy sequels to the various animated Disney movies - Lion King 1.5, Cinderella 2 and 3 etc, are now working on this:
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http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/disney/brave/
The Japanese version gives a hell of a lot more insight into the plot.
I was already excited to see it, and now I'm just about to run around in circles in excitement.
+1 on IMAX
+1 on jap trailer are awesome.
I know the kilt lift must be a great laugh line but its worn out already and constantly associating your new brand with something that makes people cringe isn't a wise move...
I do see a big Studio Ghibli influence on Brave, particularly in this new Japanese trailer. Tonally it feels that touch darker and more mystical, which is a great thing, I think. Can't wait to see this film.
Japanese trailer looked awesome, they put so much more feeling into it and just overall seemed so much more epic.
Me too. The whole spirit of the forest thing is very Ghibli. "Merida and the Forest of Fear" - putting the little title on the end also shows a bit of Ghibli as well I've noticed, but I'm not hugely into Anime so I don't think if that's a thing.
Scotland mysteriously gets it two weeks before England, Ireland or Wales.
Taiwan, Chile, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Vietnam, the Ukraine all get it before the UK (as does the bulk of Europe and the majority of other nations)
How hard is it to release a film in one language at a similar time to everyone else? It's not 1950 anymore, you don't have to ship loads of reels of film across the Atlantic.
I'm still inclined to check it out at the cinema if I can manage to scratch together the exorbitant amount of money necessary to do so, but I'll have to take along a nice lady in case my attention wavers.
I'll still see it... everyone I know is really excited about it.
What a mystery! Let's get our best men on this.
joking aside - staggered release dates are based on marketing, logistics and the cultural movie watching differences around the world. For instance, what are your plans for the 4th of July?
Take a look at the list - there is no rhyme or reason to it at all.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1217209/releaseinfo
Countries getting it this weekend are Australia, New Zealand, Russia, Slovenia, Ukraine, Canada, Taiwan, USA.
That's all the major English speaking states except the UK. Russia and the Ukraine have a russian language version. Slovenia? Slovenia will have English with subtitles - but the rest of Europe doesn't get it for five weeks including neighbouring Hungary who would want the same version. Taiwan? Clearly Chinese, however no other Chinese speaking nation will get it for another six weeks.
I feel really sorry for Poland. Whilst all their bordering nations get it in August, they have to inexpicably wait until mid October. Now Texas is getting the film three months after all it's neighbours.
Even so, their logistics have failed, since when the film does come out here, our local cinemas will be largely screening live coverage from the Olympics. If it had come out now, it would have no competition, no cultural conflicts and school holidays to boot.
It's like the 2004 Alamo movie premiering in Texas 2 weeks prior to the rest of the US (which it did).
If it's still a mystery:
You're forgetting that the 2012 Olympics are being held here. Not only that, ours is the most corporate ever; around half of the tickets got sold off at ridiculous prices to companies, so none of the people can actually see it otherwise anyway. Tickets for the mens 100 meter final for example are being sold for £27,000 (with a minimum order of 10)...
But that's getting offtopic, so let's elave the Olympic rant right there.
Scotland is a different nation, and I would be careful comparing it to 'just another English state'. It's not a state of another country.
The reason is ceremonial. It would be like releasing Ratatouille in France first. Just a nice gesture, not nonsense.
What I really dislike about Pixars schedule is how Europeans get gipped every second film and have to wait till October. Has something to do with marketing budgets I believe.
I did feel the story felt a little short lived. Some of the scenes could've been explored a little more, or some of the sequences might've been extended to make them a little more impressive. But, i enjoyed it non the less. I welcomed the change from the other pixar movies. Thought this one got pretty gruesome and dark at some points. I hope they keep some movies in this tone.