Really? This is what we have come to in self-entitlment?
polycounter lvl 12
It's game related but a point that stings me alot.
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Looking at the site here: www.erinvondrak.com
Reply to it which I say stands:
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Really? This is what we have come to? Simply wanting something 'hard enough' is all we need to do to get a job at Valve? I mean really?
I just...gah!
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I just...gah!
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http://kotaku.com/5825478/dear-valve-this-girl-wants-a-job?comment=41370094#comments
Maybe I'm a dick. But at least I'm a realist.
And that's why I avoid those types of websites now and just go for the news feeds. Everytime I read about this kind of shit ...just, headache.
Too many people who are just ignorant to the realities of this industry.
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Yeah, I hear ya. I live off kotaku though, it's the only way I know how to keep up with everything! I know it's not the only gaming blog out there, but the trolls are everywhere :poly122: Guess I should know by now what baits them though.
official valve photographer and tattoo artist? If she gets hired there, then I'm applying at nasa to be the official alien relations manager.
She seems like way too much of a gamer trying to get in on love alone... but, that was cute.
Entirely true, this would be the best ever way to get noticed by valve, too bad she doesn't have any experience or skills in any area whatsoever.
If anything, I found it rather enjoyable to listen to.
Thought that man is talented.
We all dream of working in a high place like Blizzard or Valve or any other company we aspire to, but her entire euphemism of "I'll do anything" *wink, wink* while keeping a little many too seconds on 'tentacles' shorts doesn't help but come off as desperate.
Also, am I the only one who find this paradoxic on how she created a video and had the potential of a video animation, and instead went for stills, this is VERY LAZY? The time spent on this video could have gone to her work.
Her 2D artwork is something you expect to find in a sketchbook, alongside her Tattoo artwork, which is art that could be easily traced from sugar skin paper, that's not skill Valve or ANY game company is looking for unless they all plan being tattooed the HL logo.
Also for photography, do I need to remind you guys of this thread: http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47465&page=92
She applied a total of 3 times, it just scratches me the wrong way, I know good guys in the industry being dumped or duped for mild reasons, or not getting hired even when they have amazing portfolios.
She should be well aware of her skillset and improve if she didn't get a callback from said company, I think improving yourself if you don't get callback is really the drive for us to become better, trying 3 times with the 'same' portfolio isn't going to change much, and making a begging video is just crazy idiotic and naive.
Who knows, she might one day get the job and improve and have a nice laugh about it, but really? Simply making a begging video and not even putting in any effort? Just how self-entitled have we become to believe we can get a job without any effort?
Sorry for the rant, but this really stings for me. No effort to join ANY workplace is what stings me.
a pile of poo.:)
Maybe people should care, there's a whole generation of people going "I will do anything, absolutely _anything_ if I can work here and there", that attitude is bound to affect everyone in the industry.
More importantly: she's got something on her head!!
WHAAAAAT? She just made a video about wanting to work at Valve. How is that feeling entitled to anything? She didn't demand a job cause shes bought like every Valve game eveeeer. Its just a nice, maybe cheesy video. If anybody has a problem with that video, get over yourselves.
This doesnt even deserve a thread. At all.
Everyone struggling to get into the industry will be competing with people who will do anything and get paid less than you, not every company can hire talent and pay well, or will pay well.
Nothing is wrong with people getting a reality-check and re-evaluate their position, and strive to become a better more skillfull worker that is hired on exactly that, and not on how much they'll do "anything"
I'm not personally worried, or troubled by the video, as I said, it's too bad she doesn't have the skillset because it's a great way to get noticed and stick out.
I'm just saying that attitude does affect things, even is slightly.
The only thing special about this case is that the girl made a popular youtube video.
Except that's not really what he did, he started a thread on polycount to judge a stranger amongst other strangers and didn't offer any critique until it started backfiring when no one else turned out to be as upset as him.
Not sure, this thread has become butthurt-fest.
I guess everyone has their venting-point though.
I don't see anything wrong with it; looks like she's willing to take any super-entry-level job and doesn't except to give out orders. Hell, if I had a company and was looking for someone to make coffee, I would rather give that kind of job to someone who truly loves its games. And who knows, maybe she does have some potential and just needs someone to push her in the right direction.
Chances are, that I would have ended as that "idea guy" myself had I not stumbled upon this forum and realized that I need to get my shit together. I always had the passion to work in games, but gaming blogs like Kotaku give young people the wrong idea of what the industry is like.
^this.
Nothing wrong with having a bit of ambition. better than moaning about being in a rut.
I can't remember exactly how it went, but I think they asked a young group of kids what they wanted to be when they grew up. Instead of the old classic answers such as police officer, fireman, astronaut, teacher or what have you - the majority said they wanted to be "celebrities". Not movie or music stars, but celebrities.
I'm not even 100% sure why it reminds me of that, but it does.
In any case, song was cute.
Being able to bring a creative project to completion is one of the more valuable qualities that a person can have in the games industry. Also, she has a pretty nice voice. I'd at least give her an interview.
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Hire her as a voice actress???
Would she be just as satisfied if she dated someone that worked for Valve? lol
I kept waiting for her to say what it is she actually does...or could contribute.
This is true. But at the same time I think this more a function of management than those applying for positions. I think the video game industry is currently a little too insular for its own good, and hasn't really come to grips with the hiring process the way other industries have. If management is more stringent in hiring and maintaining quality talent, (instead of hiring eager inexperienced students and firing experienced, more expensive talent) then it won't really matter how many bright-eyed youngsters apply and get turned down.
And as video games become a more regular, accepted part of our culture, the enthusiasm for working in the video games industry is only going grow. In a way, all of this fresh talent looking to get into games is a positive sign. It shows that this medium is becoming culturally ubiquitous.
Besides, getting a "wake up call" is a part of everyone's life. Anyone who does get into the games industry is pretty much assured of that life lesson. And when it hits, they either suck it up and prove they have what it takes, or they leave for a different industry. No one really gets a free ride in a business as competitive as the games industry. (except high-powered executives, but no one likes them anyway)
Ah, yeah it did, maybe because of this:
"There's nothing that I wouldn't do to say I work for valve when people ask"
In this case, she has done just that. If she finds herself applying for a job at a Valve, and her qualifications/skills are good enough to seriously be considered, the video bodes well for her in my opinion.
It demonstrates that she, at a minimum, knows what Valve has done in the past, and is probably aware of any other information Valve releases to the public. These are both GOOD things when it comes to applying at a specific company.
I'm really not sure where the problem is. If she sucks, and can't offer Valve anything, they simply won't hire her.
Though, if she does get in, prepare for the masses of 'me too' children. Peer pressure. "Ponies" wanting jobs. This is the real potential problem here.
Also, between that video and her site, I've seen more completed work from her than I have from some of the people bitching in this thread.
Belias had a ton of goals, but there was no poly-support there!