The Man of Steel, Zack Snyder's superman film
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First picture just got released.
See it here
Why else is excited?
Zack Snyder's shaping up to be one of my favorite directors, and with Chris Nolan's involvement I'm sold.
See it here
Why else is excited?
Zack Snyder's shaping up to be one of my favorite directors, and with Chris Nolan's involvement I'm sold.
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And I hope they aren't going the dark and edgy route. Superman doesn't need to be dark and edgy.
And out of all characters that don't need an "edgy" makeover, Superman is at the top of that list. That doesn't mean you can't have edginess, or modern sensibilities, but the character himself shouldn't be like that. I always thought that the story "What's so funny about Truth Justice and the American Way?" is miles away the BEST Superman story ever, and would make a fantastic movie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What's_So_Funny_About_Truth,_Justice_%26_the_American_Way%3F
Marvel's Captain America movie showed how you can have a character that is the ultimate boy scout, good guy, whatever, and still make a great movie without the character coming off as lame or preachy. Just hope that they keep that in mind here.
Batman was orphaned as a child, his primary character motivation is revenge.
Spiderman was orphaned as a child, and was directly responsible for the death of his uncle. He is driven by guilt.
Wolverine hates everyone. Has no idea who he is, where he came from.
Rorschach is an insane existentialist
Superman? Well, he's just good. Which is completely boring. Especially where depth in character development comes from some kind of inner change. IN Superman stories, the world tends to undergo that change, therefore nobody feels a strong connection with the character.
The best Superman stories completely deconstruct him and build him into something else.
- 'Red Son'
- 'Kingdom Come'
- 'Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow',
And the other issue with Superman, is that we don't need an introduction to who he is. EVERYONE on this planet knows exactly who he is, and how he got here. Focus on an actual story arc, not his origin, or who lois lane is, or how he discovered his powers.
And please not another crappy movie with Lex Luthor.
Honestly, first Spiderman, then Thor, now Superman, who's next? Batman?
as far as the whole Darker Look, at least in this scene where he's stopping a bank robbery
I thinks it's more of a "where do you think you're going?" moment as opposed to a "here, let me get the door for you ma'am"
oh and Jaque, Supe's is an orphan too, so's ya know.
I hope its not another origin story. Super hero movies need to take a note from James Bond... the things we love don't need to be re-explained to us every time a new actor is introduced.
All those that complain about 'lack of motivation' in the movie if we don't spend 30 minutes explaining said origin can go and choke about how King Kong was a spoiler movie.
Finally a Superman movie with a villain who's a kryptonian. I'm getting pretty tired of Lex Luthor. Kneel before Zod!
anyways, i will wait this was bated breath, but superman has this terrible curse of making crappy movies.
But what if you watch 300 and put superman there?
THIS. IS. SMALLVILLE!!
You haven't read much have you? Look up All Star Superman. You can have a good guy character and still have great stories without all the angst. Hell, by your logic RoboAtomic should be boring. But its not.
Anyhow, I wonder if Lex is missing partly because the ongoing legal battle with Simon & Schuster?
The real Lex, the business tycoon, would be a great adversary..... I still want to see Brainiac though.
i didn't even look at superman.
gotta agree about the face. not gonna bother looking up who the actor is, but right off the bat he reminded me of Diedrich Bader from the Drew Carey Show.
That wasn't a reboot, that was a continuation of the christopher reeves movies. And for that, it was pretty good. Sadly, no one but the director actually wanted a continuation of those old movies..
And I don't care if Lex could be done well as a villain, movie-makers have had enough tries with him. I'm done and bored. I want to see Metallo or Darkseid or some other villain the general population might not be too familiar with.
Though if they did I suppose we wouldn't have this masterpeice.
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sure looks like it or else the propmakers did a real crappy job on making the iron bars look like it experienced a massive explosion.
Its money!
I didn't say 'boring'. I said just completely lacking any depth. Like most Tim Burton movies (with the exception of Big Fish).
Depth and believability is the difference between Christopher Nolan's Batman, and Joel Schumacher's.
All Star Superman?
The one where he has 1 year to live?
That's a pretty drastic character change dontcha think?
Synopsis of EVERY superman movie to date:
Some monster, or thing, or person is killing lots of people without motivation, other than they are simply 'evil'. Superman saves the day.
WOW! Great story! Incredible film making! Lets see Lex Luthor do that again!!!
How about this? Monster/Thing/Person kills Lois Lane, kills Ma and Pa Kent, Holds The last city of Krypton hostage, while his identity is revealed, and everyone he's ever known and loved is getting murdered left and right.
For the first time in his life, he has to battle with his ideals, and resort to killing people. To torturing. Which causes the government to issue a warrant for his arrest.
Motivated by revenge, the public turns on him.
Oh right, Hollywood doesn't have the balls to do that. He will be the same goodie goodie throughout the movie, and he will save Lois Lane, and Metropolis from whatever evil force there is.
I would look into "What's so Funny about Truth Justice and the American way" and also Brian Azzarello's "For Tommorow" arc that he did with Jim Lee.
The fact that Superman is the archetypal superhero and not full of angst or anger is what makes him not boring and stand out. It separates him from all of that. He's hard to write because he's so strong, but in both of those stories I recommended the drama comes less from the opposing force and more to do with Superman's ideals.
Having him resort to killing like in your idea destroys the character and makes everything interesting about him go by the wayside.
I like the Superman movies, and hope this new one will be good. Just think they skimped on this shot. Would be great if they made him more like the Samaritan, but at that point it'd just be better to make an Astro City movie
Thats whats amazing. He didn't change. He did everything he could in the time he had left. But he didn't get depressed. He kept to his character and ideals. Its what made it such a strong read (and a good animated film btw).
Russian Superman, Batman as a terrorist. COMPLETE WIN!!!
ah ok. that totally passed me somehow.
Also, what is everyone's opinion about All Star Superman? I liked it, personally.
http://socialitelife.com/henry-cavill-shoots-man-of-steel-in-vancouver-photos-10-2011
http://www.chud.com/65700/supermans-new-get-up-is-no-hobo-suit/
Would be cool if Clark Kent would be a hobo in this movie, not really sure if he is.
I dunno know, Hobo-clark seems like it'd be pushing just a tad too far from the concept for me, but I've yet to be disapointed with Snyders work so I'll wait for the finals instead of judging a wip... ... on a board that's all about judging wip's...
This could be that.
Russian Supes, batman as a terrorist. PURE WIN!!
Yeah, that sounds more logical.
Hahah, yeah. Not really sure how they would solve the Clark Kent/Lois Lane relation either. Not that they would have a relationship but I doubt Lois Lane would have anything to do with a hobo. She's usually somewhat shallow.
(Yeah, I know some of you hardcores probably hate this shit)
Sounds exactly like the boring recent batman flicks hehe.
Kick-Ass > Superman anyways. It was probably the only superhero worth watching lately.
I don't really like Snyders work. Overuse of CG, slow motion, and limited color palettes. So I am afraid of this film.
The all-star superman movie is if anything a great fan-service in my opinion. It had lots of characters from the comics as opposed to all these new movies where they sort of introduce the characters with each film.
I'm not too sure about this movie either. I liked Watchmen, Snyder's dark style fits that movie pretty well. He's pretty good at following comic book stories too so there is a chance this movie will be good.
Kick-ass had a good idea(the comic) but the movie execution was just meh.
You'll have to elaborate on this because i'm pretty confused.