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  • MainManiac
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    is there a GW trial?
  • Rai
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  • MainManiac
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    Well damn, ill do Aion for a bit in the trial and then try GW
  • MainManiac
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    Roflness, why didn't you play GW?
  • Fomori
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    Rai wrote: »
    I don't want to make a new thread with a request, but I'm currently looking for a non-linear sandbox MMO, anyone know of a decent one?

    EVE.
    It's amazing. So much so, after 6 months I had to give it up because it demanded too much of my time. Much to learn. Very steep learning curve as well. Sink or swim scenario. I can't think of anything like it.
    I often think of returning but it really is way too absorbing for someone who also wants to do art in his spare time.

    If you dislike space or spaceships it's probably a no go though.
  • Rai
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    Fomori wrote: »
    EVE.
    It's amazing. So much so, after 6 months I had to give it up because it demanded too much of my time. Much to learn. Very steep learning curve as well. Sink or swim scenario. I can't think of anything like it.
    I often think of returning but it really is way too absorbing for someone who also wants to do art in his spare time.

    If you dislike space or spaceships it's probably a no go though.

    I want to like it, I just don't enjoy the combat.. Very boring. =/
  • MainManiac
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    Ah the grind for Aion in the starting zones is horrible, but I really want to see the outside world + flying so I have to push through

    lvl 8 -.-


    "I couldn't even stand to log in when I was playing it for free...Aion is a typical Asian MMO, full of grind, little customization, and graphics from a 1990's arcade game complete with feminine mail avatars and child like female avatars. In short...it's crap."
  • Two Listen
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    frell wrote: »
    Ah the grind for Aion in the starting zones is horrible, but I really want to see the outside world + flying so I have to push through

    You can get from 1-9 (you get a quest at 9 I think which will push you all the way to 10) in about an hour. I did it multiple times when I used to play. In fact I'm pretty sure you can easily do it all on quests.
  • MainManiac
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    An hour...? how the hell, Its been about 4-5 hours for me -.-
  • Rai
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    frell wrote: »
    Ah the grind for Aion in the starting zones is horrible, but I really want to see the outside world + flying so I have to push through

    lvl 8 -.-


    "I couldn't even stand to log in when I was playing it for free...Aion is a typical Asian MMO, full of grind, little customization, and graphics from a 1990's arcade game complete with feminine mail avatars and child like female avatars. In short...it's crap."

    People enjoy that type of crap?

    Seriously, save yourself.. Go play Guild Wars, it's not that aged.
  • MainManiac
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    Something keeps telling me the spawn is the only super grind in Aion (people swear its not a grindfest like WoW), but I give up, any game that would put me through so much bullshit not even a few hours in can die off like the rest.

    Off to download the GW trial. - which reminds me, the fact that everything outside of towns is instanced is a big turnoff...



    4:40 is what I was expecting, but it was far from this.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PAM0wr7cZ8[/ame]
  • eld
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    Rai wrote: »
    I don't see how anyone can play linear/grind games, it's boring and almost always turns into a solo game.

    But then again, I grew up with UO.. :|

    Grew up with UO aswell, but to be honest, even if it had full freedom and no quests people still fell into the grind trap there too.
  • Rai
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    eld wrote: »
    Grew up with UO aswell, but to be honest, even if it had full freedom and no quests people still fell into the grind trap there too.

    Yeah, later in UO's life.. If you were a hardcore player, you'd grind.

    But you always had a choice, and even if you did "grind" it wasn't as bad as it is in the MMO's we have today, it was always very short, could max your character out in less than a week.

    Skills also never split people up, no matter your skill level, you could always enjoy the same little adventures your friends did.
  • eld
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    Rai wrote: »
    Yeah, later in UO's life.. If you were a hardcore player, you'd grind.

    But you always had a choice, and even if you did "grind" it wasn't as bad as it is in the MMO's we have today, it was always very short, could max your character out in less than a week.

    Skills also never split people up, no matter your skill level, you could always enjoy the same little adventures your friends did.

    Darkfall is supposedly like UO btw, but I never tried it that much.
  • MainManiac
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    Guild wars is very pretty, but I really don't see anything special and it really lacks the "orgrimmar" feel in WoW (crowded, everyone on their mounts, busy). Towns have alot of people and the world is fun to stroll through, not very grindy but it seemed a tad dull to me, but I've only given it 30 minutes, Ill play more tomorrow :P
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    frell wrote: »
    Id love to play rift :( im waiting for them to improve the graphics optimizations

    Rift is only $10 on steam today only.
    http://store.steampowered.com/app/39120/?snr=1_4_4_

    I'm tempted to start up again. We got free Rift accounts at work, but we still have to pay the monthly fees after the 30 day trial was over. I liked what I saw, though.
  • Kwramm
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    man I miss UO ... that was a fun game
  • MainManiac
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    Xenobond wrote: »
    Rift is only $10 on steam today only.
    http://store.steampowered.com/app/39120/?snr=1_4_4_

    I'm tempted to start up again. We got free Rift accounts at work, but we still have to pay the monthly fees after the 30 day trial was over. I liked what I saw, though.
    I would have already bought it if I could run it
  • rolfness
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    frell wrote: »
    Roflness, why didn't you play GW?

    hahahahah.. they are too easy.. I love grind.. I played Lineage 2 for years, the harder the grind the better.. and you know why? people take their time, there is no rush to max level. because the goal to max level is many months or even a year away.

    if the grind is easy people rush and its a mad scramble the mentality changes to its so easy whats taking you so long.. that I find the most annoying.

    and in L2 I learned to enjoy the grind I had 2 accounts 1 as a buff bot to my main account, I found my own pace, and so did everyone, I think the record in L2 was something like 3 years to get to the level cap.. lol but the guy still plays today and will never leave as long as the servers run.

    with aion what youre looking for is at lvl 50-55 thats where most of the stuff happens.. also with the aion vision trailer, alot of that stuff you see with by endgame lvl 55 stuff
  • MainManiac
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    Well I got my wings, got out of the spawn, and it still feels like a clunky asian mmorpg thats just playing dress up..

    Guess ill go back to WoW, even though its slowly being ruined by Activision.

    I can't really get into guild wars either. Every game that i've tried other than WoW has given me an insecure feeling and I just can't get into it. And even when I first experienced WoW I didn't feel like this
  • DeeKei
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    IT's not out in america/europe yet, but Tera Online looks pretty amazing. It's also more action based than standard rpg as well, so when the beta comes out i'll be trying it.
  • Rai
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    Fuck it, we're going back to MUDs!
  • r_fletch_r
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    rolfness wrote: »
    hahahahah.. they are too easy.. I love grind.. I played Lineage 2 for years, the harder the grind the better.. and you know why? people take their time, there is no rush to max level. because the goal to max level is many months or even a year away.

    if the grind is easy people rush and its a mad scramble the mentality changes to its so easy whats taking you so long.. that I find the most annoying.

    and in L2 I learned to enjoy the grind I had 2 accounts 1 as a buff bot to my main account, I found my own pace, and so did everyone, I think the record in L2 was something like 3 years to get to the level cap.. lol but the guy still plays today and will never leave as long as the servers run.

    with aion what youre looking for is at lvl 50-55 thats where most of the stuff happens.. also with the aion vision trailer, alot of that stuff you see with by endgame lvl 55 stuff
    I take it you like EVE then :)
  • Anuxinamoon
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    That sucks about RIFT how it isn't running well. I wonder if you could post your system specs or dxdiag? Can't make any promises, but I might be able to figure out why you might be having problems.

    Have you tried playing Everquest 2 or Lord of the rings online?
  • rolfness
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    r_fletch_r wrote: »
    I take it you like EVE then :)

    never played EVE.. kinda odd since I loved the X series from egosoft.

    must be because theres no scantily clad women with watermellon breasts.. xD
  • r_fletch_r
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    rolfness wrote: »
    never played EVE.. kinda odd since I loved the X series from egosoft.

    must be because theres no scantily clad women with watermellon breasts.. xD

    unless you spend lots of time in the character creation :)

    Id say it would suit you if you liked X. its like X but with people and less boredom
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    That sucks about RIFT how it isn't running well. I wonder if you could post your system specs or dxdiag? Can't make any promises, but I might be able to figure out why you might be having problems.

    Have you tried playing Everquest 2 or Lord of the rings online?
    Ive even gone as far as editing .cfg files AND running the game in dx9 mode and its still horribly, I cant believe it. Usually I can play any game at a very decent balance of quality/performance and not have it look shit. Rift either looks good or bad.

    Specs:
    specse.png
  • MainManiac
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    halps :(

    also my rift trial ran out a while ago, how will I test the new specs? (if you guys help me and it works)
  • MainManiac
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    Here are the Rift recommended settings for a quick comparison:


    Recommended System Specifications
    Operating system: Windows XP, Vista, or 7
    Processor: Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or better
    Memory: 4 GB
    Hard disk space: 15.0 GB available
    Desktop Video: Nvidia GTS 250 or better
    Notebook Video: Nvidia GTX 200M series or better
    Sound: DirectX 8.1 compliant card
    DirectX®: 9.0c, June 2010 update



    I only have 2.0 ghz but I have 6gb ram, and Im 64bit, shouldn't that make up for the lost .2ghz?
  • MainManiac
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    bump before im off, if anyone has any advice for rift
  • DeeKei
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    i suggest you update your drivers. From what I can see its been 2 years since you updated it?
  • MainManiac
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    I updated it after I posted that picture, and then tried rift to no avail
  • DeeKei
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    Update rift, and maybe make sure your AA AF is off... if that doesnt work I guess you are SOL
  • MainManiac
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    Im looking into an external graphics card for my laptop. Seeing as how I can run crysis on high and most games at a very decent level, the newer games are starting to take hits.
  • MainManiac
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    Turns out the external cards are over $600 and use a proprietary port

    But I also found:

    "What you can do is check in the bios, by hitting F10 when booting up and scroll through bios options and see if you can add more ram to the graphics card. This will take away some system ram, but will make the video more smooth... If F10 doesn't get you into bios look up your manual."

    Apparently with HP and ATI the vram and ram are shared, I have 6gb ram and theres no way games are using it all, could relocation work?
  • MainManiac
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    I also defragged before I ran rift
  • rolfness
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    r_fletch_r wrote: »
    unless you spend lots of time in the character creation :)

    Id say it would suit you if you liked X. its like X but with people and less boredom

    D: heresy !!! I was never bored playing any of the Xgames, it was the perfect singleplayer sandbox game!!
  • MainManiac
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    Didn't look great really, watched alot of reviews etc. Plus most p2p games gone free are dying.
  • Ace-Angel
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    Not really, most of them go F2P because the profit revenues vs P2P is greater. Even WoW is slowly nudging in that direction (albeit very slowly since they're still churning massive profits), TF2 became F2P but didn't have too at all.

    The MMO market is saturated with F2P games, that why many dev's go F2P, unless you have the financial backing of WoW or the near perfect launch of Rift, gamers will pass you.

    Also, not to blow the horn more, but F2P market does offer games which are unique in many ways which P2P won't offer. Vindictus being one of them.
  • JacqueChoi
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    This is an MMO I'm currently working on.

    Might be interesting if you're interested in 'modern fantasy' over 'high fantasy'.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0S_-UOEw7A&hd=1[/ame]
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    Video is not available in my country?
  • JacqueChoi
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    honestly, ive played all the major ones, and i keep going back to EQ2. its just too good to stop playing. constant updates, constant expansions. HUUUUUGE character developement (90 levels, plus 300 "talent points", but they are called alternate achievement points. you get them by doing quests, killing mobs, killing bosses and rare spawns, and exploration.
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    JacqueChoi wrote: »
    (We are aware the characters look like complete crap, and I've been hired to completely redo the heads and skin tones from scratch).

    After following this game for a few years, you don't understand how happy it makes me to hear that.
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    JacqueChoi wrote: »
    This is an MMO I'm currently working on.

    (We are aware the characters look like complete crap, and I've been hired to completely redo the heads and skin tones from scratch).

    Might be interesting if you're interested in 'modern fantasy' over 'high fantasy'.

    How open is the world? I keep hearing it's non-linear and you can walk about however you'd like.. But how true is that?
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    JacqueChoi wrote: »
    (We are aware the characters look like complete crap, and I've been hired to completely redo the heads and skin tones from scratch).

    What about the running animations?
  • Kwramm
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    JacqueChoi wrote: »
    This is an MMO I'm currently working on.
    (We are aware the characters look like complete crap, and I've been hired to completely redo the heads and skin tones from scratch).

    hah. We had absolutely no plan back then ... but I guess you know how old those characters are hehe. That's why I left just before everyone packed up to chase the Montreal tax break. But if they have people like you on the team know, this baby should be in good hands. Let's hope they manage to release it some day.
  • MainManiac
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    what makes eq2 different from wow and I heard monthly its $25
  • Rai
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    frell wrote: »
    what makes eq2 different from wow and I heard monthly its $25

    Is there a monthly fee to play EQ2? If so, how much?

    Yes, there is a monthly subscription fee for EQ2 which is $14.99 a month for a normal subscription depending on your pay cycle. SOE will also add EQ2 to the All Access pass, a $21.99 per month subscription that covers EQLive, PlanetSide, EQ: Online Adventures (PS2 version), and some other minor games.
    Google ---^

    I've never played EQ2, so I can't tell you how it plays.
  • MainManiac
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    downloading eq2


    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TELL ME THERE ISNT AN ITEM SHOP
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