what am i missing here? how are these titles possible on the wii without new hardware? is the controller adding to the processing power of the host wii or something?
what am i missing here? how are these titles possible on the wii without new hardware? is the controller adding to the processing power of the host wii or something?
Its a new console, its just, they never bothered to SAY its a new console... Stupid way to tell everybody about it.
what am i missing here? how are these titles possible on the wii without new hardware? is the controller adding to the processing power of the host wii or something?
WiiU = new console with high-end HD graphics + iPad/button controller.
I can't believe any of you guys are skeptical - Nintendo is fucking KILLING with this. The uses for the screen are awesome, and they've got tons of legit third party. They're directly putting Arkham City and Assassin's Creed on there, those are huge AAA titles!
*edit*
John Riccitiello mentioned Battlefield, and they showed shots of the game. Looks 100% as good as it does on PS3 or 360, as far as I can tell..
I can't believe any of you guys are skeptical - Nintendo is fucking KILLING with this. The uses for the screen are awesome, and they've got tons of legit third party. They're directly putting Arkham City and Assassin's Creed on there, those are huge AAA titles!
Agreed. I actually think we'll see something similar from Sony and Microsoft in a year or two.
I can see it being a tad better than 360/PS3 specs, but not a major leap. To be fair, thats all they have to do.
Also, they released pics of the new Zelda HD, and... Well it doesn't look like anything much the current Wii couldn't do, aside from the resolution. But even then it looks like its 720p upscaled to 1080p... So not sure what to think about this, specs wise...
Thse lower res textures have me thinking its still 512meg memory, which for a future proof console would be utter bollocks, imo...
But its gonna open up some amazing ideas for gaming that you wont find elsewhere.
Yeah was confused throughout that presentation. Kept calling it a controller and then shows the bird tech demo and I was like wtf. Someone needs to talk to them about presentations.
and in a year or two when the new round of consoles from Sony and Microsoft are announced or previewed it will once again make the wiiu look like the wii does now compared to the current hardware.
Online play. Check already have that in the 360/PS3... Meh.... Nintendo had nothing that interested me. Kinda sad really.
Sweet...so the controller is probably empty aside from the screen, and the console just streams everything to it...wonder what kind of range that would have.
Sweet...so the controller is probably empty aside from the screen, and the console just streams everything to it...wonder what kind of range that would have.
Might be something akin to remote play on PS3. IE you can stream on wifi network. Man really wish Sony would pick up their act with remote play/hope its in PSVita. They had the whole play PS3 games on psp but only Pixel Junk actually used it
I am cautiously optimistic about this, but the words I really wanted to hear were 'Backwards compatible with gamecube'. Give me Wind Waker in HD dammnit!!
Buy a 3Ds a Wii and a Wii U and you can play the new Smash Bros properly!
Still not buying a Nintendo product
Yeah thats not what they said at all.
Posting negative untrue things in the sony thread, posting negative untrue things in the nintendo thread, but said negative untrue things suspiciously absent from the xbox thread... hmm... see what I'd suggesting at Skamberin?
EDIT: Oh and Reggie is just an incredibly disingenuine non-gaming muppet, Iwate should have done the whole presentation...
Wiiu completely underwhelmed me. Its a tablet that doesn't work unless close to the system or connected to the net. In fact Sony already did this with PS3+PSP years ago where you can run console games on a handheld screen. The menu info in a controller screen was done by dreamcast too, and it sucked, no one wants to have to keep looking back and forth between their screen and controller. Plus basically nothing game wise was shown other then ports. wth nintendo?
This is just a half odd half weird bizzare thing. So that ipad thing is just a controller? That's gotta run more than $100. What if I want a second one? So we gotta spend hundreds of dollars on controllers?
And really all this does is bring it up to par with 360/ps3 graphics. Like has been said here, couple more years and we'll start seeing the xbox3/ps4 capabilities, and this thing will be have the same relative power as the Wii does today. Only with expensive controllers.
Andreas, just load up Wind Waker in the Dolphin emulator. I've been enjoying crisp Zelda graphics for a while now
My friend did that, didnt get it working right, the gameplay/music would be fine out on the world map, but would speed up in a house etc... known bug apparently, did you get around it?
The games? The gameplay? How is that not the selling point?
I played Super Mario 64 and Zelda Ocarina of Time (new Zeldas and Marios are pretty much remakes of those), I don't play FPS games on Console other than Halo, so what NEW and INNOVATIVE and AMAZING can the Wii U actually present?
Oh and I don't care about playing multiplat games in a different way by using some peripheral.
Wii was the last nintendo console I'll buy, and I've owned every one of their systems up to this point. I imagine most of the additional functionality will be gimmicks tacked on to existing games. There will be a few exclusives that are neat, but ultimately not worth the cost to play and the in-ability to play next-gen games in a couple years.
Wow. Okay, I'm going to have to give the overall press conference award to Sony.
I'm not saying that Nintendo's presentation was bad. But it was definitely confusing. That was probably the worst "reveal" I've ever seen.
And it wasn't because of what was being revealed. I think the WiiU is a very interesting concept, and could be a really sweet system. But it wasn't until three quarters of the way through the presentation that I was sure that they were presenting a new console, and not just a new controller for their existing console. It wasn't until someone who DOESN'T work for Nintendo came out and told us this was a new console that my confusion was put to rest.
As neat as their new controller is, they did a terrible job of explaining WiiU. Also, I wasn't really seeing any new software for the 3DS. This may have been the first big reveal for Luigi's Mansion, but I can't help but feel that I had heard about it before. And the poor original Wii languished without any major game announcements.
Nintendo dominated last E3. But a fairly shallow software showing combined with a very poorly planned console reveal held them back in 2011. Congratulations, Sony.
and in a year or two when the new round of consoles from Sony and Microsoft are announced or previewed it will once again make the wiiu look like the wii does now compared to the current hardware.
Worked out pretty well for 'em the first time. How many new consoles do you think Nintendo can sell in that stretch between now and when Sony and MS release a new console? And does it even matter when the target audience is not exactly the same. Not everyone cares about playing the hottest military simulator with eye busting graphics. Some people just want to play a silly/fun game, on a console that doesn't cost as a much as a car payment.
I am cautiously optimistic about this, but the words I really wanted to hear were 'Backwards compatible with gamecube'. Give me Wind Waker in HD dammnit!!
Yeah thats not what they said at all.
Posting negative untrue things in the sony thread, posting negative untrue things in the nintendo thread, but said negative untrue things suspiciously absent from the xbox thread... hmm... see what I'd suggesting at Skamberin?
EDIT: Oh and Reggie is just an incredibly disingenuine non-gaming muppet, Iwate should have done the whole presentation...
Nice that you missed how I have a PS3.
I didn't like the Sony press conference because it didn't present anything that ringed awesome for me other than Uncharted 3.
Microsofts press conference stopped being good after the gears 3 footage, then got good again with the Halo reveals, too much Kinect.
If you're so hurt about people criticizing a company you likes presentation, suggesting others are a fanboy might be a bit off.
I really like the new console, however the presentation seems heavily aimed to someone who are not into hi-tech stuff.
yet they tries to convince some hardcore gamer in the same time ( but yet .., not enough effort)
Worked out pretty well for 'em the first time. How many new consoles do you think Nintendo can sell in that stretch between now and when Sony and MS release a new console? And does it even matter when the target audience is not exactly the same. Not everyone cares about playing the hottest military simulator with eye busting graphics. Some people just want to play a silly/fun game, on a console that doesn't cost as a much as a car payment.
Apples and oranges.
To be fair, after buying accessories for the wii it pretty much evens out.
From what I've seen, I get the feeling we're still gonna be hearing dev's saying "it's coming to all the platforms, PS3, Xbox, and PC"
I don't know, it seems like Nintendo is losing itself. They don't know what they want to be anymore, and it's kinda sad. It's almost the Sega consoles again.
[EDIT] And Reggie is still creepy as fuck, and downright scary when he's being asked questions he doesn't wanna answer. Seriously, they need ANYone else as their spokesperson.
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With the optional body interface WiiOnU.
Its a new console, its just, they never bothered to SAY its a new console... Stupid way to tell everybody about it.
There IS new hardware. WiiU is a new console.
ok how much $$$ now?
I can't believe any of you guys are skeptical - Nintendo is fucking KILLING with this. The uses for the screen are awesome, and they've got tons of legit third party. They're directly putting Arkham City and Assassin's Creed on there, those are huge AAA titles!
*edit*
John Riccitiello mentioned Battlefield, and they showed shots of the game. Looks 100% as good as it does on PS3 or 360, as far as I can tell..
Agreed. I actually think we'll see something similar from Sony and Microsoft in a year or two.
Totally. Was waiting for specs the whole time and since they didn't give none I think they ain't got that much to be proud of.
I bet the internals aren't even finalized yet.
via: http://uk.kotaku.com/5809482/the-is-the-first-picture-of-nintendos-new-console-the-wii-u
Also, they released pics of the new Zelda HD, and... Well it doesn't look like anything much the current Wii couldn't do, aside from the resolution. But even then it looks like its 720p upscaled to 1080p... So not sure what to think about this, specs wise...
Thse lower res textures have me thinking its still 512meg memory, which for a future proof console would be utter bollocks, imo...
But its gonna open up some amazing ideas for gaming that you wont find elsewhere.
With slightly better hardware hopefully....
Dude, it's a whole new console. The controllers are part of it.
Online play. Check already have that in the 360/PS3... Meh.... Nintendo had nothing that interested me. Kinda sad really.
Might be something akin to remote play on PS3. IE you can stream on wifi network. Man really wish Sony would pick up their act with remote play/hope its in PSVita. They had the whole play PS3 games on psp but only Pixel Junk actually used it
Yeah thats not what they said at all.
Posting negative untrue things in the sony thread, posting negative untrue things in the nintendo thread, but said negative untrue things suspiciously absent from the xbox thread... hmm... see what I'd suggesting at Skamberin?
EDIT: Oh and Reggie is just an incredibly disingenuine non-gaming muppet, Iwate should have done the whole presentation...
The games? The gameplay? How is that not the selling point?
Wiiu completely underwhelmed me. Its a tablet that doesn't work unless close to the system or connected to the net. In fact Sony already did this with PS3+PSP years ago where you can run console games on a handheld screen. The menu info in a controller screen was done by dreamcast too, and it sucked, no one wants to have to keep looking back and forth between their screen and controller. Plus basically nothing game wise was shown other then ports. wth nintendo?
Same.
And really all this does is bring it up to par with 360/ps3 graphics. Like has been said here, couple more years and we'll start seeing the xbox3/ps4 capabilities, and this thing will be have the same relative power as the Wii does today. Only with expensive controllers.
My friend did that, didnt get it working right, the gameplay/music would be fine out on the world map, but would speed up in a house etc... known bug apparently, did you get around it?
Oh and I don't care about playing multiplat games in a different way by using some peripheral.
I'm not saying that Nintendo's presentation was bad. But it was definitely confusing. That was probably the worst "reveal" I've ever seen.
And it wasn't because of what was being revealed. I think the WiiU is a very interesting concept, and could be a really sweet system. But it wasn't until three quarters of the way through the presentation that I was sure that they were presenting a new console, and not just a new controller for their existing console. It wasn't until someone who DOESN'T work for Nintendo came out and told us this was a new console that my confusion was put to rest.
As neat as their new controller is, they did a terrible job of explaining WiiU. Also, I wasn't really seeing any new software for the 3DS. This may have been the first big reveal for Luigi's Mansion, but I can't help but feel that I had heard about it before. And the poor original Wii languished without any major game announcements.
Nintendo dominated last E3. But a fairly shallow software showing combined with a very poorly planned console reveal held them back in 2011. Congratulations, Sony.
Worked out pretty well for 'em the first time. How many new consoles do you think Nintendo can sell in that stretch between now and when Sony and MS release a new console? And does it even matter when the target audience is not exactly the same. Not everyone cares about playing the hottest military simulator with eye busting graphics. Some people just want to play a silly/fun game, on a console that doesn't cost as a much as a car payment.
Apples and oranges.
I didn't like the Sony press conference because it didn't present anything that ringed awesome for me other than Uncharted 3.
Microsofts press conference stopped being good after the gears 3 footage, then got good again with the Halo reveals, too much Kinect.
If you're so hurt about people criticizing a company you likes presentation, suggesting others are a fanboy might be a bit off.
yet they tries to convince some hardcore gamer in the same time ( but yet .., not enough effort)
To be fair, after buying accessories for the wii it pretty much evens out.
It's the illusion of buying a cheaper console.
I don't know, it seems like Nintendo is losing itself. They don't know what they want to be anymore, and it's kinda sad. It's almost the Sega consoles again.
[EDIT] And Reggie is still creepy as fuck, and downright scary when he's being asked questions he doesn't wanna answer. Seriously, they need ANYone else as their spokesperson.