keeps getting better you could retop super quickly in zbrush and then in max or whatever add the subD based edgeloops. grassetti did it with his amazing mecha girl , otherwise just project it on and play with the polish brushes like you have.
next: hehe, if i had any sub-d abilities i'd defo go that way, unfortunatley i suck heaps at it Hoping some retopology will clean it up a little ^^; crazyfool: woo, cheers for that grassetti link, forgot he did it that way. Was lookin at cedric seaut's stuff actually, he does the same thing i think (link) striker: haha, cheers man :P
Still some junk to go but almost there(?)
I think days 3-9000 will be retopo (not lookin forward to it, hate this part :poly122:)
Only have to do retopo and cleaned final meshes for certain bits i think, ie: just the right thigh, right shoulder , head, etc... So might go slightly quicker.
Fingers crossed this bit goes smooth and I don't loose all interest in finishing this char
Hey Nizza_waaarg! Looking good, but I'd suggest making the feet more like those of the Necris from UT3. Really like how yours look, but they don't feel like adequate support.
A somewhat similar shape, but notice the supports
Oh wow dude, that looks awesome. Really love the proportions and style!
The feet sort of remind me of ballerina feet. I think that really breaks up the heavy/rough mech stuff (in a good way) So I'd say, try to keep those in
Anyway, your work so far looks awesome. I'll be subscribing to this thread
fucking awesome! love the somewhat reserved way you texture your stuff and the sculpts have so much character. and great boobs and asses! can't forget those. definitely shouldve looked in here earlier (odd since you actually advertise the nudity! ) and will follow this from now on.
PatrickL: ty Alberto: cheers SuPa: oh mans, i so shoulda peeped them necris feet before, that woulda been awsome... gonna try and rework them a bit so awsome ref, cheers man ^^ moof: ^^ MeintevdS: Cheers man ^^ I dig mech designs with pointy tapered feet (ie: zone of the enders) pior: Haz: haha, thanks dude, appreciated ^^ I think i've been exposed to too much of your stuff (got more females with less clothing on my list next ^^;) divi: hehe, all about the boobs and asses :P wizo: cool to see you around again man ^^ haha, completley went all megaman by accident 7oli: cheers
Arg, aight back. Kindof a mini poop update but gettin somewhere. Still stuff to add/tweak on the high poly but i normally abandon projects after 5 days so i gotta get this done asap
Quick bake down to low, tho the the mesh is like 15k tri's (not exactly budget asset -_-). Can always claim it as a cinematic lod
gotta move onto textures now. would be cool if i can finish this by tommorow to fit into my weird 5 day deadline thing...
(still lovin this leocov shader btw... should read better with colour on there :poly136:)
still blockin stuff in and testing out junk, but if anyone's used leocov's maya ubershader, is there any way to get the cubemaps or reflection working? or even that hemispheric ambient whatsit over there...
srsly need some reflection but no idea how to get it working (i just threw a random picture in the cubemap slot, might need a proper cubemap to activate, mebbe?)
anyways, imma keep at it (and i kinda dig the "topless" mode tbh )
edit: emailed leo and got an awsome response back, so should be workin sweet now ^^ (have to use a proper cubemap was the issue ^^;). Updates as soon as i got some proper texturing in i suppose
aight, sort of an update i suppose. Think i need to up the values of stuff or make it more contrasty mebbe. Glowy bits will help heaps i think (coz that's how all anti-grav backpacks works yo).
Still got dirt/grime layer and a bunch of stickers/decals/text to go all over the place.
Gotta try some diff colour schemes too, more work after food
(oh, flat maps at the bottom, from right to left: diff, spec, reflection mask and gloss i think... tho the gloss is having a bit to strong effect on the reflection atm)
gotta toss a tiny little crit though, about the feet. It looks like she just doesnt have any, as opposed to the robot heels you've got her rockin right now. I think it's because the lower leg is too short, it should be as long as it + the feet are now, IMO. And maybe make the intersection between the leg and foot just a tad more defined? Just a suggestion, lookin great anyway.
btw congrats on the cghub front page pimp, they've got this chick in the pic collage rotation with the biggest thumbnail in the bunch
striker: ^^ hntrluc: thank you vivin: haha, i knew a vivin once, was all about makin art and junk :P sampson: feet are for the weak (they the mini heel kinda dealios at the bottom there, but gettin a bit of an overhaul on the next pass) ferg: awsome point on the legs/feet dude ^^ Gonna try tweaking the lower legs alot too when i get onto redoing the feets (and woo, 1 step closer to hittin that top row... someday man :P)
still more texturing to go, think the suit and body are all blending into one un-contrasty mass... dunno what to do there (maybe more/less reflection/spec/value on different bits, i dunno ^^; )
still got decals, paint and text to throw around, more face texturing, and i did a 30 second colour scheme test (if anyone's got cool paint scheme ideas im all ears)
slowly gettin better with the shader too i think ^^ (also glowy bits make teh anti-grav jet thingos work :poly142:)
edit: updated pic with fancy post effects (colour balanceis a post effect... just like marmoset cept not, dunno how to add bloom yet ^^)
I feel like the current color composition works the best. The weight and balance on her is really great! It's an awesome silhouette with a great read. Though I will admit..I feel like her face is lacking the personality that the rest of the character has.
Looking good Nizza! I agree with you about her appearing like a grey mass though. Looks to me like that's caused by her gauntlets visually connecting her upper armor bits with her lower ones because they're so huge. I think if you make them mostly a lighter colour, like close to white, it will break up the colours and add some contrast. You could also make her helmet and feet the same colour to unify the whole piece. Something else I think is worth experimenting with is to make the inside of her leg armor a different tone/colour from the outside so that when the legs overlap it's easy to identify which one's in front of which. Just my 0.02.
I love this piece man, I'm glad you've taken it as far as you have. I usually end up disappointed when you don't finish projects. Been saving all the WIPs of this one so far just in case.
I agree with ErichWK that the face is lacking in personality. Are you planning on opening the eyes at all? It looks like in your mesh you have all the necessary facial loops, and I think giving her an expression and opening her eyes would really help.
What about keeping the current color and adding like a red for small details and shit like that. Like for the bults or something. I think that would help it pop..
Where did you find that maya shader? Looks real nice!
ErichWK: ^^ cheers dude, agreed on the face still Quaser: some cool points man. Hoping the paint glowy bits kinda break her up a little more, but still worth tweaking i think Frump: thank you Cool idea on the face, currently she's just got eyes closed but can't imagine it'd be too hard to seperate the polies and stick some eyeballs in there, defo gonna give that a shot on my second pass sltrOlssen: not a bad idea, but it kinda took away some of the uniformity across the outfit. Hoping i can pull things out with paint and junk. Also the shader is from leocov, love it more than anything so far ^^ (link) 55joe: ^^ cheers
aight so imma do the same as hellboy and move her off to the side for now. Still got a massive list of things to change when i do my finalising pass on everything so thanks for all the awsome crits
Thinkin of doing my japanese adventure time dude next, or a realistic style char based off a massive black concept (pic).
Not 100% on josh brolin anymore, hard to get the forms/gesture looking less blocky and square (from the front view especially), ill keep at it when i can tho.
edit: threw in a quick pic from marmo (last day of trial version )... like how it handles teh spec in some places (metals ^^) but i think each version has their own strengths and weakness
weisheng: :P crazyfool: ^^ cheers man Gosss: hehe, thank you
been kinda lazy the last 2 days after hitting the near finishing point on that last char.
Finally got around to making stuff just now so back into it i guess. Decided to stick with josh brolin as it's always hard making simpler, realistic characters look interesting imo (as opposed to stylized, gear'd up mofo's )... practice practice ^^
just a mini wip pic, some reporportioning and tryin to make the forms look more interesting. Shirt folds be tricky here too (no idea what pose/s he gonna be in yet :P)
Holy crap on a cracker.
Nizza, the cyberchick look aweeeesome. I really enjoy the shapes and proportions.
If i was forced to give some crit I'd say that you could tune up material definition. Because I can't say for sure which material is her gear made from. You have dark stuff along the edges, that looks like a worn off paint to me, but nevertheless it's not very shiny on the corners and edges as would be with metal that got paint scraped off. Could be plastic, but I don't think that it's ever painted. Sharp metallic highlights will also help you accentuate the cool complex shapes you've got going on there.
You're probably already finished with it anyway, but I just thought It might still be helpful.
keep on rockin'.=)
p.s. the kid is awesome too.) I'd love to see him textured.
Man I really think you should go back, and retopologize a lot of those shapes and clean stuff up before you bake it down. This is a pretty cool character, some real polish would really really make it pop.
d1ver: good point on the mat definition man, noticing it more now ^^ Wasn't sure whether to go plastic or metal and tried for metal. Think upping the spec and maybe blurring the cubemap might help it read better (on the fixing list ^^)
moof: oh mans : ( Was hoping the divide/cleanup pass and low poly bake would help but i get what you mean in places (the blobbiness and wavy lines around).
Was gonna try adding some expression to the head, might be fun to go back and do some alt heads altogether. And cool idea with the brown hue ^^ tho that was the matcap in zb doing that, guessing adding brown to the diff and/or post effects might acheive a similar result (mebbe?). Hoping it helps break up the char a bit more.
Cheers for the crits guys, definitley good to have this stuff before i call it all done
threw in some quick wires and flats too. Someone recommended cutting down on the legs' armour which is defo a good idea. Anyways, I'll be back to finishing all these chars off for the folio after getting a few more done.
Little bit of work on this dude this mornin. Thinking of goin with a painterly but simple texture/shader style, then there'd be some cool animations over that... dunno how it'll work yet
(drawing a lot of inspiration from mugen from samurai champloo btw ^^)
body/head/socks next (might have to work the shorts folds a bit mroe later)
harvey: cheers man. mostly just move brush on the zsphere blob, then cut into it with the dam standard or the mech brushes (googles, they're on zbc somewhere, killer brushes ^^). Then just trim dynamic'd my way to victory
threads be moving fast up in here
started up a little side project... quick male figure out of my head, trying to get proportion and gesture lookin good but really not gettin it at all (this is where ref would prolly be a smart choice )
gonna do a cloth study over the base too. Suit first, then this badass jacket
excellent updates Nizza, I was gonna rag on you for not finishin Brolin first, but then I remembered my own thread and figured I'd let it slide this time
Mech-girl turned out sweet, the real-time could use some defenition between parts,maybe just darken the AO in the seams? along with the head variations you could try some kinda visor thing that opens up out of the helmet? sorta like Iron man or Slipgates DWIV? just a thought anyway.
New guy is sweet too but you're not alowed to do that jacket without also doing the hat and glasses.
Love the lighter top without the shoulder pads, i'd even consider revealing some skin on the back, maybe go for something elegant or sexy.
I think her eyes need to be open and the helmet removed or revisited by adding a clever visor design, etc for a clearer point of interest. Also, there should be a clear point that has been built as a crescendo in your design, a main focus.
It would definitely help to sub-d the armor pieces to make their surfaces and edges cleaner, smoother.
I love the wide leg and arm proportions, for sure, but the feet break it for me and think those should also be revisited. The piece seems to be getting decent attention, so it's something worthy of spit-shine.
Your textures do seem underwhelmed, too light, and over simplified. I'd give much more attention to setting those base material descriptions; gloss, spec, color, before pushing forward to polish.
scudz: :P all abouts the slipgate helmets ^^ (beard+hair > hat and glasses ) killinppl: yeah i still kinda dig the no shoulders dealio... hrmmm >_> good points man, defo gotta focus on that material definition and fiddling with some concept changes. Might be a big ole reworkin happenin (still got no sub-d powers tho )
page o' arts (coz i like attention : D)... gotta get onto them cloth studies, anatomy still be messin with my brains which blows.
Thinkin of bailin on the brolin due to the anatomy and clothes lookin like poop, but i really gotta do some realistic chars asap
quick head sculpt i pooped out this morning while waiting for some work to upload to ftp.
Theres a CRAZY amount of lag when trying to record a timelapse in zb so he's still mega blobby and unfinished coz i couldn't stand the massive delay every time i lifted up the pen tryin to sculpt
It's for crazyfool's daily sculpting exercises thread over on... *cough* ga.org
Redoin the shirt for japanese adventurin dude, and workin out new cloth sculpts for some of those realistic style characters next.
super happy cow: :P ferg: i should really get back into the anatomy studies proper, noticing a bunch of bits im jsut guessing which aint a good sign ^^;
mini update before sleep. Little more on japanese adventurin dude (redid his shirt, kinda subtle imo), and more suit guy.
Finally decided on a bunch of realistic chars to do (kinda realistic... not rly >_>). Suit guy, street gangster guy who's fat and has baggy clothes, and latin gangster dude. Should be good anatomy and cloth practice, can try and push them to a really sharp finish too.
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......fkn awesome
crazyfool: woo, cheers for that grassetti link, forgot he did it that way. Was lookin at cedric seaut's stuff actually, he does the same thing i think (link)
striker: haha, cheers man :P
Still some junk to go but almost there(?)
I think days 3-9000 will be retopo (not lookin forward to it, hate this part :poly122:)
Only have to do retopo and cleaned final meshes for certain bits i think, ie: just the right thigh, right shoulder , head, etc... So might go slightly quicker.
Fingers crossed this bit goes smooth and I don't loose all interest in finishing this char
A somewhat similar shape, but notice the supports
The feet sort of remind me of ballerina feet. I think that really breaks up the heavy/rough mech stuff (in a good way) So I'd say, try to keep those in
Anyway, your work so far looks awesome. I'll be subscribing to this thread
Keep it up!
You're killin me man!! Massive improovements! This chick you got goin on is super hot!!!!!!
Always a fan dude, keep rockin!
Alberto: cheers
SuPa: oh mans, i so shoulda peeped them necris feet before, that woulda been awsome... gonna try and rework them a bit so awsome ref, cheers man ^^
moof: ^^
MeintevdS: Cheers man ^^ I dig mech designs with pointy tapered feet (ie: zone of the enders)
pior:
Haz: haha, thanks dude, appreciated ^^ I think i've been exposed to too much of your stuff (got more females with less clothing on my list next ^^;)
divi: hehe, all about the boobs and asses :P
wizo: cool to see you around again man ^^ haha, completley went all megaman by accident
7oli: cheers
Arg, aight back. Kindof a mini poop update but gettin somewhere. Still stuff to add/tweak on the high poly but i normally abandon projects after 5 days so i gotta get this done asap
Quick bake down to low, tho the the mesh is like 15k tri's (not exactly budget asset -_-). Can always claim it as a cinematic lod
gotta move onto textures now. would be cool if i can finish this by tommorow to fit into my weird 5 day deadline thing...
(still lovin this leocov shader btw... should read better with colour on there :poly136:)
ern: ta
still blockin stuff in and testing out junk, but if anyone's used leocov's maya ubershader, is there any way to get the cubemaps or reflection working? or even that hemispheric ambient whatsit over there...
srsly need some reflection but no idea how to get it working
anyways, imma keep at it (and i kinda dig the "topless" mode tbh
edit: emailed leo and got an awsome response back, so should be workin sweet now ^^ (have to use a proper cubemap was the issue ^^;). Updates as soon as i got some proper texturing in i suppose
aight, sort of an update i suppose. Think i need to up the values of stuff or make it more contrasty mebbe. Glowy bits will help heaps i think (coz that's how all anti-grav backpacks works yo).
Still got dirt/grime layer and a bunch of stickers/decals/text to go all over the place.
Gotta try some diff colour schemes too, more work after food
(oh, flat maps at the bottom, from right to left: diff, spec, reflection mask and gloss i think... tho the gloss is having a bit to strong effect on the reflection atm)
ill wait till you up the colors and stuff
gotta toss a tiny little crit though, about the feet. It looks like she just doesnt have any, as opposed to the robot heels you've got her rockin right now. I think it's because the lower leg is too short, it should be as long as it + the feet are now, IMO. And maybe make the intersection between the leg and foot just a tad more defined? Just a suggestion, lookin great anyway.
btw congrats on the cghub front page pimp, they've got this chick in the pic collage rotation with the biggest thumbnail in the bunch
hntrluc: thank you
vivin: haha, i knew a vivin once, was all about makin art and junk :P
sampson: feet are for the weak (they the mini heel kinda dealios at the bottom there, but gettin a bit of an overhaul on the next pass)
ferg: awsome point on the legs/feet dude ^^ Gonna try tweaking the lower legs alot too when i get onto redoing the feets
still more texturing to go, think the suit and body are all blending into one un-contrasty mass... dunno what to do there (maybe more/less reflection/spec/value on different bits, i dunno ^^; )
still got decals, paint and text to throw around, more face texturing, and i did a 30 second colour scheme test (if anyone's got cool paint scheme ideas im all ears)
slowly gettin better with the shader too i think ^^ (also glowy bits make teh anti-grav jet thingos work :poly142:)
edit: updated pic with fancy post effects (colour balanceis a post effect... just like marmoset cept not, dunno how to add bloom yet ^^)
I agree with ErichWK that the face is lacking in personality. Are you planning on opening the eyes at all? It looks like in your mesh you have all the necessary facial loops, and I think giving her an expression and opening her eyes would really help.
Where did you find that maya shader? Looks real nice!
Keep it up, looking forward for next update!
Quaser: some cool points man. Hoping the paint glowy bits kinda break her up a little more, but still worth tweaking i think
Frump: thank you
sltrOlssen: not a bad idea, but it kinda took away some of the uniformity across the outfit. Hoping i can pull things out with paint and junk. Also the shader is from leocov, love it more than anything so far ^^ (link)
55joe: ^^ cheers
aight so imma do the same as hellboy and move her off to the side for now. Still got a massive list of things to change when i do my finalising pass on everything so thanks for all the awsome crits
Thinkin of doing my japanese adventure time dude next, or a realistic style char based off a massive black concept (pic).
Not 100% on josh brolin anymore, hard to get the forms/gesture looking less blocky and square (from the front view especially), ill keep at it when i can tho.
edit: threw in a quick pic from marmo (last day of trial version
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crazyfool: ^^ cheers man
Gosss: hehe, thank you
been kinda lazy the last 2 days after hitting the near finishing point on that last char.
Finally got around to making stuff just now so back into it i guess. Decided to stick with josh brolin as it's always hard making simpler, realistic characters look interesting imo (as opposed to stylized, gear'd up mofo's
just a mini wip pic, some reporportioning and tryin to make the forms look more interesting. Shirt folds be tricky here too (no idea what pose/s he gonna be in yet :P)
Nizza, the cyberchick look aweeeesome. I really enjoy the shapes and proportions.
If i was forced to give some crit I'd say that you could tune up material definition. Because I can't say for sure which material is her gear made from. You have dark stuff along the edges, that looks like a worn off paint to me, but nevertheless it's not very shiny on the corners and edges as would be with metal that got paint scraped off. Could be plastic, but I don't think that it's ever painted. Sharp metallic highlights will also help you accentuate the cool complex shapes you've got going on there.
You're probably already finished with it anyway, but I just thought It might still be helpful.
keep on rockin'.=)
p.s. the kid is awesome too.) I'd love to see him textured.
Man I really think you should go back, and retopologize a lot of those shapes and clean stuff up before you bake it down. This is a pretty cool character, some real polish would really really make it pop.
I'd try some new head variations too.
Just sayin.
also: http://nizza.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/01g.jpg
the body has a brown hue, I'd go back and use that. Everything is slightly blue right now which makes it muddier.
moof: oh mans : ( Was hoping the divide/cleanup pass and low poly bake would help but i get what you mean in places (the blobbiness and wavy lines around).
Was gonna try adding some expression to the head, might be fun to go back and do some alt heads altogether. And cool idea with the brown hue ^^ tho that was the matcap in zb doing that, guessing adding brown to the diff and/or post effects might acheive a similar result (mebbe?). Hoping it helps break up the char a bit more.
Cheers for the crits guys, definitley good to have this stuff before i call it all done
threw in some quick wires and flats too. Someone recommended cutting down on the legs' armour which is defo a good idea. Anyways, I'll be back to finishing all these chars off for the folio after getting a few more done.
(drawing a lot of inspiration from mugen from samurai champloo btw ^^)
body/head/socks next (might have to work the shorts folds a bit mroe later)
threads be moving fast up in here
started up a little side project... quick male figure out of my head, trying to get proportion and gesture lookin good but really not gettin it at all
gonna do a cloth study over the base too. Suit first, then this badass jacket
Mech-girl turned out sweet, the real-time could use some defenition between parts,maybe just darken the AO in the seams? along with the head variations you could try some kinda visor thing that opens up out of the helmet? sorta like Iron man or Slipgates DWIV? just a thought anyway.
New guy is sweet too but you're not alowed to do that jacket without also doing the hat and glasses.
Seriously.
It's forbidden.
I'll find you...
http://nizza.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/01e.jpg
Love the lighter top without the shoulder pads, i'd even consider revealing some skin on the back, maybe go for something elegant or sexy.
I think her eyes need to be open and the helmet removed or revisited by adding a clever visor design, etc for a clearer point of interest. Also, there should be a clear point that has been built as a crescendo in your design, a main focus.
It would definitely help to sub-d the armor pieces to make their surfaces and edges cleaner, smoother.
I love the wide leg and arm proportions, for sure, but the feet break it for me and think those should also be revisited. The piece seems to be getting decent attention, so it's something worthy of spit-shine.
Your textures do seem underwhelmed, too light, and over simplified. I'd give much more attention to setting those base material descriptions; gloss, spec, color, before pushing forward to polish.
I'm loving the work in this thread.
killinppl: yeah i still kinda dig the no shoulders dealio... hrmmm >_> good points man, defo gotta focus on that material definition and fiddling with some concept changes. Might be a big ole reworkin happenin (still got no sub-d powers tho
page o' arts (coz i like attention : D)... gotta get onto them cloth studies, anatomy still be messin with my brains which blows.
Thinkin of bailin on the brolin due to the anatomy and clothes lookin like poop, but i really gotta do some realistic chars asap
Great job.
stefanH: cheers
quick head sculpt i pooped out this morning while waiting for some work to upload to ftp.
Theres a CRAZY amount of lag when trying to record a timelapse in zb so he's still mega blobby and unfinished coz i couldn't stand the massive delay every time i lifted up the pen tryin to sculpt
It's for crazyfool's daily sculpting exercises thread over on... *cough* ga.org
Redoin the shirt for japanese adventurin dude, and workin out new cloth sculpts for some of those realistic style characters next.
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ferg:
mini update before sleep. Little more on japanese adventurin dude (redid his shirt, kinda subtle imo), and more suit guy.
Finally decided on a bunch of realistic chars to do (kinda realistic... not rly >_>). Suit guy, street gangster guy who's fat and has baggy clothes, and latin gangster dude. Should be good anatomy and cloth practice, can try and push them to a really sharp finish too.