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Sukotto

Hey all, I just registered on these forums to join in on this contest. Anyway here we go:

Class: Pyro
Theme: Hawaiian Islands

My theme has evolved from a Summer Fun theme to a Hawaiian theme. The Hawaiian islands were formed by volcanoes and are situated in the Pacific Ring of Fire so I think it fits the Pyro's personality well actually. As if he took a vacation there. Due to the upcoming deadline(and my late start) I'm just going to do melee, flare gun, hat and maybe miscellaneous if time permits. If I had more time I would definitely do a flamethrower but I can always contribute that later separately

I only have a couple ideas so far and just a little concept art to go with it but here are the ideas anyway:


Melee: Hawaiian Koa Axe

http://www.mythichawaii.com/weapons.htm
Gonna try and incorporate some volcano motif in it

Miscellaneous: Lei




Flare gun: Wooden tiki gun


In my mind I always see tikis that breathe fire so theres another thing tying the Pyro into it.

Khthon

Good ideas, get some concept art up

Sukotto

Changing the idea around a little.

New hat: Chef's hat was too generic I thought and bucket hat wasn't very interesting either. Gonna go with a beach comber hat

Dr. Waldo Fehr

ROMAN CANDLE GUN! BEST IDEA EVER!

Sukotto

Just some quick mockups. Because of the deadline and stuff I don't think I'll be able to do the flamethrower idea so I'll just stick to melee, hat, and miscellaneous and maybe the flare gun idea



Beachcomber Hat:

Kalva

Uhhh, I say you use the Roman candle as the flare gun. Just my opinion. Also, the melee doesn't have to be an axe, it could just be the tiki torch itself.

Of course, when I think about it, fire works don't really seem to fit with a tiki torch or other backyard barbecue type items.

Sukotto

I thought it would be easier to incorporate the melee into the game if it we some sort of axe but maybe I could go with the tiki torch. But I've been thinking of changing the theme to involve Hawaiian stuff instead after I found out about the Koa axe, like replacing the ducky tube with a lei and maybe make a wooden flare gun that looks like a tiki.

The fireworks are supposed to tie into the Summer theme, buttttt like I said my theme may change

Kalva

Go for the Hawaiian theme. Koa axe, lei, and try to make some sort of flaregun or flamethrower based on a tiki torch? I personally would like to see what you can do for a flaregun.

Sukotto

Ya, I think I'm gonna go Hawaiian I'm probably just gonna do the flare gun(in addition to the axe,lei and hat) just because the deadlines coming up

Sukotto

Axe silhouettes:

Psyke

5 6 8 all feel really new and intrestin'

Some Jerk

I think 6 is best. Looks unique enouth without getting too weirdly shaped.

Khthon

5, 6, 8, 11.

Try to get away from the typical ax/sword looks, those shapes work for that. Unique stuff.

denvarte

7, 9, 10, very nice shapes

Ikimono

Khthon wrote: »

5, 6, 8, 11.

Try to get away from the typical ax/sword looks, those shapes work for that. Unique stuff.

it still has to fit in the pyros hands and fit his axe animations.

denvarte

10 for axe animations, one hand on handle and other behind blade

Khthon

The blades are the main thing. He can make straight-ish handles to match the animations if he has to.

Sukotto

Yes I can always extend the handle of whatever I choose to make it fit properly.
Also I'm trying to use the model viewer but when I look for the Source SDK it says its not available

P.S. I'm on a Mac, have they not released it for Mac?

Ikimono

Sukotto wrote: »

Also I'm trying to use the model viewer but when I look for the Source SDK it says its not available

P.S. I'm on a Mac, have they not released it for Mac?

Don't even attempt to make mods on your mac. Absolutely nothing has been released and if it does get released ever, none of the 3rd party programs needed for modding will work for it. You're a fish out of water.

moke

Ikimono wrote: »

Don't even attempt to make mods on your mac. Absolutely nothing has been released and if it does get released ever, none of the 3rd party programs needed for modding will work for it. You're a fish out of water.

"Hi, I'm a PC"
"And I'm a Mac"
"And I can do everything a Mac can do..."
"...You can?"
"Yeah, because software manufacturers target the PC"
"...But a Mac comes bundled with great software, right out of the box!"
"Really? Then why has no-one felt the need to rip it onto Windows?"
"Uh..."

Gotta love Macs. Also agreeing with the general sentiment in this thread that intuos tablets are built for life - been trying to get my hands on one off ebay for ages now, and even if they're 3rd hand, slightly radioactive and have had the edges filed to razor sharpness you can expect it to sell for 50-60% of its retail price.

Sukotto

Thanks for the heads up, um is there some link floating about where I can download the weapons? I already have the class models

ColonelBD

Can a Mac run GCFscape? if it can just extract the files from there and decompile them with an MDL decompiler. Unfortunately, there aren't that many download sites for the weapons.

Hotdogbunker

Kalva wrote: »

Uhhh, I say you use the Roman candle as the flare gun. Just my opinion. Also, the melee doesn't have to be an axe, it could just be the tiki torch itself.

Of course, when I think about it, fire works don't really seem to fit with a tiki torch or other backyard barbecue type items.

What party have you been to?

Dr. Waldo Fehr

Aww man you got my hopes up with talk of Roman Candles! However much I loved the idea, they don't fit the theme at all.

6 & 8 are my favorites.

Sukotto

Update, I decided to go with 11. Just the rough shape here.


After looking at this, I think I may need to shorten/compact the blade part so that it fits in the screen in first person


The end of my axe is actually pretty far past the end of the axtinguisher/default axe

Sukotto

Another Update, Axe is almost done, and I'm under 8k tris so I should be good.

Not much else to be done really. Suggestions? If not, I'll probably start texturing then

Khthon

Going with a plain handle? Or going to put some sort of grip on it?

Sukotto

I'm not too sure, in a couple pictures I found of shark tooth axes some had twine wrapped and some didn't. I can probably make a comparison for the two

Sukotto

Alright, here's a comparison of it with a grip and without a grip. Though maybe I could just get away with just a simple pipe(no indents) wrapped around and just kinda texture it to look twine-y. Though I still have to say I prefer no grip

Sukotto

Thoughts?

Khthon

What about having the grip cover almost the whole handle? Up to the first chip in the wood?

I like the grip.

Sukotto

Different grips: Not sure about the texture that would work for 3. Not final grips, I will tweak it to look better.
2 is 200 over the poly limit though

Psyke

3 or 4

Khthon

2 or 3

Norron

Ditto on 2 and 3. I really like the wire wrapping on 2 though.

Mico27

Wire wrapping can be easily faked with a normal map tough, so I wouldnt worry about the polycount.

Viceroy Bubbles

Wow this whole thread is great.

I guess my favorite is 2 but I could be talked into 3 if the grip came out looking really nice.

Sukotto

I was thinking 3 as well
I have to admit I've never normal mapped before, couldn't I just bump map it for the same effect? Or is normal mapping not that hard for what I have to do?

Sukotto

Wooo Update! It's hat time now! Sitting pretty at 420 tris. I was thinking of 'burning' part of the hat. Any suggestions?

Psyke

make it smaller...

Norron

Looking good so far, but that sucker is too big overall. Take a look at your concept art again. The model doesn't quite fit the original proportions that you laid out and it makes it look odd.

You may want to give the planes on the top some thickness as well.

Khthon

I think the fronds are a bit too big.

Sukotto

Okay, I shrunk the hat and added some thickness to the fronds and I even added his lei. There's only six flowers right now but I will add more once I figure out how to adjust them around his neck


UPDATE The lei are probably gonna be team colored when I texture them

Sukotto

Suggestions?

Psyke

doing the hat and the flowers as 1 item?

Sukotto

Nope, the hats the hat(obviously):) and the lei is a miscellaneous item.

Hopefully, I can get started on my flare gun soon

Norron

The lei is looking good. Just get some sort of string or rope in there and it'll probably be done.

Ikimono

God I want everything i've seen in the game.
*fist shake* Damn you Valve!

Viceroy Bubbles

It seems like the hat is a little 'thick' towards the bottom, maybe if you had if come out at a lesser angle? Like the picture you showed us on your first post

Khthon

Maybe some seashells glued on the hat?

Sukotto

@Norron, well the leis sitting right at 800 tris, though I don't think a string would add too many more though since 800 isn't a 'hard' limit according to the rules


@Kthon, yeah the hats pretty close to 800 too, ill try fixing some things like Viceroy said so Ill see what I can do with the shells

EDIT: Nevermind about that