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  • ant1fact
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    Sometimes booleans act weird if the two meshes have some geo that perfectly lines up. Try moving the boolean object ever so slightly to see what happens.
  • Poly_Nut
    xrg said:
    Google Summer of Code seems to be doing quite well this year. These three projects in particular have me excited.

    Outliner Improvements (not as many juicy screenshots, but VERY welcome additions): https://devtalk.blender.org/t/gsoc-2019-outliner-weekly-reports/7642



    Now, does that means we'll be able to achieve a realtime bevel shader for Eevee?
    The blur capabilities of the voronoi texture in the first thread is exactly what blender was lacking. But it's still quite limited, unfortunately.


    I still wonder why there is nobody willing to port open source Berconmaps to Blender! This would be a very good addition specially working with nodes and displacement. Blender have a few nice one but Berconmaps is a superior beast!
  • Justo
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    Justo interpolator
    Strangely enough, I cannot seem to reproduce yesterday's bugs now. I've tried with three different types of blocks (with NGons, triangulated, and with its bottom slightly offset in regards to the cylinder's middle edge) and all of them seem to come out correctly. Attaching the scene to this post anyway. Sure, a little cleanup is needed, but it's what is expected out of a bool op and there're no internal faces now. 

    More Qs :/
    1) I remember @pior you mentioned that it was possible to change the MMB button mapping during the move operation to lock to other axis. Do you know where in Preferences would that be? Going to 3DView>View3D Move Modal, or 3DView>Object Mode>3D View Tool: Move dont seem to have anything.
    2) I want to confirm whether I understand this correctly: at the moment there is no "global" import command, right? The way Blender works, you have to choose to import specifically the file type you want, but you cannot just hit Import and choose the file from amongst all your different filetypes in one directory? 
    3) What's the quickest, easiest way to select the top and bottom faces of a newly created cylinder? As it is now Blender doesn't allow for backface selection, and if I enable XRay and align my viewport so that it is looking at the cylinder from the top-ish, drag-selecting both faces seems to only select the one in the back...
    4) Is there any way to modify the smart sub-obj preview selection parameters? For example, the range of pixels at which it will activate, or whether it could preview-display in a color the sub-obj that's going to be selected if the user clicks (basically Maya's convenient behavior)?
  • musashidan
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    Justo said:
    3) What's the quickest, easiest way to select the top and bottom faces of a newly created cylinder? As it is now Blender doesn't allow for backface selection, and if I enable XRay and align my viewport so that it is looking at the cylinder from the top-ish, drag-selecting both faces seems to only select the one in the back...

    Not sure what's going on there, but both wireframe and Xray(show whole scene transparent) work perfectly as expected my end.
  • FrankPolygon
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    Justo said:
    Strangely enough, I cannot seem to reproduce yesterday's bugs now. I've tried with three different types of blocks (with NGons, triangulated, and with its bottom slightly offset in regards to the cylinder's middle edge) and all of them seem to come out correctly. Attaching the scene to this post anyway. Sure, a little cleanup is needed, but it's what is expected out of a bool op and there're no internal faces now.
    Co-planer intersecting edges will (can) cause problems with Blender's Boolean tools. Switching the solver from BMesh to Carve usually solves the problem but if you use a lot of Boolean modifiers you'll see intermittent issues.

    *Edit*
    This error is error is reproducible in Blender 2.8: Under certain circumstances the co-planer edges of intersecting Boolean geometry will cause the operation to error by either leaving mesh parts behind or not closing intersecting faces.

    After a little testing I've found that switching the Overlap Threshold from the defualt value of "0.000001m" to "0m" resolves the issue in Blender 2.8 and the Boolean operation runs successfully.



  • musashidan
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    @FrankPolygon Carve library was removed from 2.80. It isn't an option.
  • Nominous
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    @Justo I'm pretty sure the default MMB transform axis constaint shortcuts are hardcoded. I couldn't find anything relevant to change using the "middle mouse" keyword in the search bar. I have custom shortcuts for individual axis/plane constraints in Keymap > Transform Modal Map if you're interested. It would be nice to be able to change the default MMB shortcuts ofc:

    [spoiler][/spoiler]
  • RN
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    Nominous said:
    I'm pretty sure the default MMB transform axis constaint shortcuts are hardcoded.
    It's definitely hardcoded:
  • Justo
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    @RN Awesome find. I don't suppose this code is somewhere in my Blender root file directory, and I just need to replace that MIDDLEMOUSE with my preferred key, is it.....?
  • RN
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    @Justo That's the source code of blender.exe (the 2.79 version at least), it's useful for understanding some of the internals but it'd be a whole lot of trouble to actually change it, a process called "building Blender from source".

    I did build it once to run an old version of the Armory3D plugin, and it was a total pain.

    If it was me, I'd rather write a custom transform operator that lets you use some other method to pick an axis constraint, but I personally think the built-in way of pressing X, Y or Z is intuitive enough, after a few weeks I didn't think about it anymore.
  • musashidan
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    For me, coming from Max, I really like the hotkey translation. It actually feels liberating abandoning the gizmo. However, I would love to have a quad tap constraint setup: 1 press=free move, 2 press=X, 3 press=Y, 4 press=Z. I've gotten so used to multi-tap hotkeys in Max that it's hard to do without them. I've set a few 'double-click' hotkeys in Blender like the default GG, but the delay between keystrokes(whatever way it's set) means that this doesn't work for some tools.

    does anyone know of a multi-tap addon?
  • LuisCherubini
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    Poly_Nut said:

    I still wonder why there is nobody willing to port open source Berconmaps to Blender! This would be a very good addition specially working with nodes and displacement. Blender have a few nice one but Berconmaps is a superior beast!

    Getting a simple sphere gradient in the node editor is a pain. I feel obligated to tweak all parameters using a color ramp all the time. And we all know that the color ramp node needs some serious care from a developer.    :p ahah
  • wazou
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    Speedflow Basics - 04 - Parametric Gear

    In this video, we will see how to make a parametric gear with Speedflow.


  • guitarguy00
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    For me, coming from Max, I really like the hotkey translation. It actually feels liberating abandoning the gizmo. However, I would love to have a quad tap constraint setup: 1 press=free move, 2 press=X, 3 press=Y, 4 press=Z. I've gotten so used to multi-tap hotkeys in Max that it's hard to do without them. I've set a few 'double-click' hotkeys in Blender like the default GG, but the delay between keystrokes(whatever way it's set) means that this doesn't work for some tools.

    does anyone know of a multi-tap addon?

    There's a double/multitap key option for hotkeys in 3dsMax??
  • musashidan
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    There's a double/multitap key option for hotkeys in 3dsMax??
    Not natively, but I use the Keyhydra plugin which is hotkey insanity. :)
  • guitarguy00
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    There's a double/multitap key option for hotkeys in 3dsMax??
    Not natively, but I use the Keyhydra plugin which is hotkey insanity. :)
    Will check it out! Any way of getting Maya-style mouse navigation in 3DS to work properly? I know this is a Blender thread but I still haven't switched over hehe
  • musashidan
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    There's a double/multitap key option for hotkeys in 3dsMax??
    Not natively, but I use the Keyhydra plugin which is hotkey insanity. :)
    Will check it out! Any way of getting Maya-style mouse navigation in 3DS to work properly? I know this is a Blender thread but I still haven't switched over hehe
    In the new 2020 hotkey editor you can switch to Default Maya keymap and go from there. Or there is Customise>Preferences>Interaction mode>Maya.

    For me though, 3ds Max is my first 3D program and even though I use Maya nav whenever possible in all other programs, Max nav in Max is hardwired into my brain......forever. :)
  • Justo
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    Justo interpolator
    Release Candidate hype!

    What's the criteria Blender uses to display highlighted edges during object mode? Keeps making me think my model has different topology until I enter Edit Mode. 


    Also, are there any non-destructive options in blender for chamfering models based on hard edges or some form of mesh normals control?
  • ant1fact
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    @Justo I genuinely love your enthusiasm! Good to see people embracing Blender.

    About the wireframe thing, could this be what you're looking for? (Apologies for the random mesh lol)

    As for beveling you have a few different options in the bevel modifier:
    If you select "Angle", then out of the box it's set to 30 degrees which will pretty much only bevel hard edges.

    If you select "Weight" then you need to mark the edges in Edit Mode either by pressing Ctrl+E if you use right click selection or I assume using the right click menu when you have an edge selected and then choosing the following menu option:
    (Bear in mind this thing works a bit weird, as it is not a toggle, but a float value between 0.0 and 1.0. When you first click it, you have to either pull your mouse to the right to increase the value or type in the value directly. For example if I use this what I do most of the time is click the thing then press 1 and then press LMB or Enter to confirm. If you want to remove it, then navigate to this option again but this time you have to type in -1, then the Weight will be completely removed. (I know, lol))



  • Justo
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    Justo interpolator
    @ant1fact Thank you! My enthusiasm was born from people like you posting in threads like this, so I should be thanking you really  :3  Also to all those amazing plugin creators

    I had seen the Bevel modifier, but your reply helped me put things together a lot better now. I think that if I wanted something that behaved like Max's chamfer modifier, or anything in which i have full control of, this Weight option would be the closest thing. Setting everything by an arbitrary angle can sometimes not be enough, and if I manage to find a way to automate this Edge Bevel Weight, the process would be just as fast.
     
    And you were right on the mark about the wireframe haha - I had it set to 0.99! 
  • MACHIN3
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    MACHIN3 sublime tool
    Justo said:
     
    And you were right on the mark about the wireframe haha - I had it set to 0.99! 
    MACHIN3tools' Customize tool does that. With it at 1 (default), the 'show_all_edges' object wireframe option is useless, as it's always on. 
    But I don't want to have it enabled for the handle objects in MESHmachine.

    A better way to handle this by the blender devs, would be a per object override value. Or have have a legacy option, which works like in 2.79, not depending on angles.

  • musashidan
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    @justo Blender uses the concept of last selected is active, both in object and edit mode, and this will be reflected by a different colour wireframe or sub-object. For similar to Max shaded wireframe I use Maxivz tools.

    Beveling is pretty much as @ant1fact described, with weights being the same as setting them in Max 2020(there is a slider in the N panel is you don't want to set weight as described above)

    Hardops is a must have if you do a lot of non-destructive beveling. It's a lightning fast workflow.

    Also, Meshmachine is a beast for non-destructive local beveling in edit mode.

    I see you've started on the hard-surface challenge thread๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜


  • Justo
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    @MACHIN3 So you're guilty for this!...Kidding. Thank you for the input. 

    @musashidan Yes, meshmachine is on my must-acquire list. AFAIK hardops was mainly a boolean-centered plugin? What cool things does it offer for non-destructive chamfering? In their gumroad I see some bulletpoints referring to this, neat. I will need to read through it later, though I wish they had a short video explaining this so I dont have to dig through their docs or watch 30+min showcases (example, meshmachine's fantastic video documentation). I'm seeing some cool gifs in their docs though.

    Well I already made 2 scripts replicating the sharp'n'smooth behaviour of max&maya, which works with objects, edges and faces. They dont work with multiple objects yet though, I need to study bmesh...But I am happy with the tools I've got so far and it's enough to keep practising. I can already see if I master these things it will be a stupidly fast workflow. 
  • MACHIN3
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    MACHIN3 sublime tool

    Also, Meshmachine is a beast for non-destructive local beveling in edit mode.
    To be clear MESHmachine is not non-destructive. I prefer calling it re-constructive, as that is what it does. It is a beast though :)
  • musashidan
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    @MACHIN3 ๐Ÿ˜ non-destructive in the sense that it is the only dedicated tool I've seen in any program that can unbevel/chamfer geometry.

    And by the looks of your latest demos it will soon be able to operate like Maya Hardmesh, Max Smooth Booleans, and Modo Meshfusion......but with that unique Machin3 black magic...
  • musashidan
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    @Justo Hardops is more than just a boolean toolkit. It's a workflow booster with an excellent modifier system. It takes care of a lot of tedious tasks behind the scenes(like a lot of Blender addons) and has many more tools than just Booleans. Of course it works flawlessly with its sister addon - Boxcutter - but is also built to support and work with Meshmachine and Decalmachine and Kitops.
    Adding Bevel(and other) mods through Hops(or Fluent or Speedflow/etc) is a great way to work. Blender's hotkey based modal system is probably my favourite thing about the program. It's 100% modern and artist-friendly and is the way 3D modeling should be. Working in Max day to day(I still use it professionally and Blender for fun) is starting to actually feel a bit dated and clunky to me now, even though I know the program inside out. It's these amazing addons that are currently years ahead of Max/Maya in terms of the modeling concepts and workflows.

    The way I've always used Chamfer mod in Max was by setting Smoothing Groups(oh, how I miss them in Blender) and use the 'unsmoothed edges' option in the mod. Blender works by marking edges:

    Sharp/unsharp - hard/soft edges
    Bevel Weight - Bevel modifier
    Creases - sub-D
    Seams - UV seams

    All these edges can be marked and viewed in the viewport as different colours. Now that I've gotten used to this and using/marking them together it's actually a pretty good workflow. It was a bit weird at first, coming from Max, but I've learned to embrace it rather than fight it.

    There is also the Select>sharp edges from the select menu in edit mode, that can get you a lot of the way.


  • Justo
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    Yeah, I'm using those in some scripts to make things faster. I suppose I'll need to dig into Hard Ops too.

    I don't know if this be Blender RC bug or Justo being a doofus and forgetting something obvious.



    For some reason, the bottom mesh refuses to chamfer like the above one with the Bevel modifier, even though AFAIK, both meshes followed the same process. Both have edges w/ beveled weights (displayed w/ blue lines on the right models), both have the same settings in their mods...I simply cannot make it behave. Does anyone know if there's any obvious steps I'm missing?
  • musashidan
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    musashidan insane polycounter
    @justo Try disabling Clamp Overlap.
  • Justo
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    Justo interpolator
    Yes! This doofus wishes you a happy good day sir.
  • Udjani
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    @Justo just a tip if you don't know yet, if you set the outer miter of the bevel modifier to arc it might give you better results for subdiv.
  • Justo
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    @Udjani I actually did not know about that! I was assuming i'd had to correct those areas manually. Though I knew it had something to do with those areas where beveled-and-non-beveled areas met, to be honest, mitering was a term I could not say specifically what it meant until I checked Maya's documentation just now (Blender's isn't updated on this new feature yet apparently). Learning Blender is updating my knowledge base in more ways than one...Thank you!

    So far, my preferred Bevel options to start from a script I'm applying are:

    width: 0.1 (might change this to .05)
    segments: 2
    profile: 1
    Clamp Overlap: Off
    Limit Method: Weight
    Outer Miter: Arc

    And the rest is as default.
  • musashidan
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    @justo Not sure if you've tried Max 2020's updated chamfer mod, but mitering is a term that's used, and Radial mitering is the same as Blender's Arc mitering.

    Blender's docs will only now begin to update now that 2.80 is officially out of beta.
  • guitarguy00
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    There's a double/multitap key option for hotkeys in 3dsMax??
    Not natively, but I use the Keyhydra plugin which is hotkey insanity. :)
    Will check it out! Any way of getting Maya-style mouse navigation in 3DS to work properly? I know this is a Blender thread but I still haven't switched over hehe
    In the new 2020 hotkey editor you can switch to Default Maya keymap and go from there. Or there is Customise>Preferences>Interaction mode>Maya.

    For me though, 3ds Max is my first 3D program and even though I use Maya nav whenever possible in all other programs, Max nav in Max is hardwired into my brain......forever. :)
    Thanks for that. Last time I tried the Preference method, the Maya selection was glitchy. It wouldn't allow me to double click more than one loop. I made a thread about it here and other people experienced the same. Because Max is hard coded to use ALT as de-select, it didn't like it when I assigned Alt+left mouse to pivot the camera either lol. Is Max 2020 available for all users now? here is the thread.

    https://polycount.com/discussion/201152/cant-double-click-more-than-one-loop-in-3ds#latest
  • xrg
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    xrg polycounter lvl 8
    Make sure you're looking at the 2.8 manual and not 2.79. I think it's still WIP but most stuff should be on there now.
  • Justo
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    Any other options in Blender to change the pivot point in sub-obj selections? For example, in this image, I have three edges selected (yellow arrows), which I would like to scale down with my pivot point at the center of the cylinder (blue arrow). None of the default Pivot Point options let me do this...How can this be achieved?


    The one method I can think of is to create a vert in that middle point, snap the 3D Cursor to it, and then use Pivot Point>3D Cursor, though a solution in which I dont have to create extra topology would be welcome..
  • musashidan
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    Get in the habit of using the 3D cursor and active element for tjis kind if work. Just select the faces in the centre>cursor to selected.
  • Fletcher
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    Fletcher polycounter lvl 8
    Hello fellow Blender users,
    I am quitting Maya because I have enough of its shit. Constant crashes, weird behaviors, tools that not work in constant manner etc. etc. I was a long time lurker but I have been following Blender updates for long time and I was talking to myselt that one day I will make the switch. Today is the day. Maya broke me. Even if it's default software at my workplace(gamedev) I don't want to have anything in common with this software. So, here I am with some questions or basically one main question specific for those who made switch from maya to blender:
    Is there anywhere, free or paid, maya like pie menus? Or anybody have one that can share it with me.
    I know that blender have pie menus but I am asking if someone already made those specific maya pie menus. Because I can live with other shortcuts, diffrent navigation etc. But I cannot ditch my pie menus :P This is only thing that I want to take from maya to blender. I have already bought neat addon for custom pie menus but I want to know if somebody already did maya like pie menus. I am searching the web already and anything I found was config on gumroad with just basic pie menu and I want maya like shift+rmb pie menus etc. etc.
    Thanks in advance and oh boy I am so happy to make this switch from maya :D
  • pior
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    "How can this be achieved?"

    Yeah, that's pretty much what the 3D Cursor is for. There is no need to ever use a parent or proxy object or to edit a pivot for that sort of stuff - as the 3D cursor takes on that role any time you want it to.



    And of course you'll get it at the location you want here by "snapping it" (sending it) to selection after selecting that one vertical center edge.
  • Fletcher
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    Fletcher polycounter lvl 8
    "How can this be achieved?"

    Also here you have basic pivot manipulation. It should work fine in your case https://www.artstation.com/artwork/0X58Y8
    Credits to Maxi Vazquez
  • Udjani
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    @Justo you can also do that if your pivot point is set to active element, you would have to use constrais to scale only in the Z and X axis, would be pretty easy and fast without that sinful gizmo you know. 
  • Justo
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    Right, so that's one of the cases in which I would want to use the 3D cursor. Thanks for the tips guys :) 

    @Udjani That's a great way of doing things too! It's nice to see other ways of achieving this without using the 3D cursor at all! 
  • musashidan
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    The 3D cursor is actually very useful. If you're using left click select it's shift+RMB to drag the 3D cursor around freely. This is great because you can hold Ctrl and snap to the grid or directly into object surfaces and sub-objects, and it doesn't even have to be visible.

    I also use active element as a pivot all the time when modeling. Such a wonderful feature.
  • RaphaelBarros
    Fletcher said:
    Hello fellow Blender users,
    I am quitting Maya because I have enough of its shit. Constant crashes, weird behaviors, tools that not work in constant manner etc. etc. I was a long time lurker but I have been following Blender updates for long time and I was talking to myselt that one day I will make the switch. Today is the day. Maya broke me. Even if it's default software at my workplace(gamedev) I don't want to have anything in common with this software. So, here I am with some questions or basically one main question specific for those who made switch from maya to blender:
    Is there anywhere, free or paid, maya like pie menus? Or anybody have one that can share it with me.
    I know that blender have pie menus but I am asking if someone already made those specific maya pie menus. Because I can live with other shortcuts, diffrent navigation etc. But I cannot ditch my pie menus :P This is only thing that I want to take from maya to blender. I have already bought neat addon for custom pie menus but I want to know if somebody already did maya like pie menus. I am searching the web already and anything I found was config on gumroad with just basic pie menu and I want maya like shift+rmb pie menus etc. etc.
    Thanks in advance and oh boy I am so happy to make this switch from maya :D
    There are already some great pre built pie menus such as Wazou's Pie Menu and MACHIN3Tools, but I'm not sure if they're Maya Like (last time I used Maya was in 2012, so I can't recall).

    What would you specifically need for these menus? The Pie Menu Editor (I suppose that's the one you bought) is pretty powerful, making it possible to create nested pie menus, macros, stacked keys, stick keys, custom panels and even hide most of Blender's default panels and add your own, so I think it's doable.
  • wazou
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    I need to update my pie menus on 2.8.
    I think the best for people who want to modify blender is pie menu editor.
    But, people should first learn blender without any addons and then after several months make their own version.
  • pior
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    If I am not mistaken, when people mention the Maya pie menus they tend to do so because the Maya Hotbox (that's the name right ?) allows for near gesture-like inputs with a very snappy behavior when pointing at quarters/boxes. Whereas the modern Blender pie menus are imo really painful to use - not in terms of display time, but because they seem to have some massive dead zones and some weird tolerances at least by default.

    As far as I am concerned that's why I dislike using them - they are just objectively slower to interact with than old school popup dropdown lists. And that's why I end up putting all my secondary tools (that is to say : used often, but not often enough to justify a hotkey) in a regular popup (not a pie) built in ... Pie Menu Editor. The 2.8 versions of things like the snap menu (shift-S) are way less efficient (harder to read, and slower to interact with) than their pre-2.8 equivalents so I need to rebuild that too. Painful stuff.

    What I am getting at is : @Fletcher , as unfortunate as that may sound you might have to let go of the hope to find a near exact equivalent to the "hold key combo and flick the mouse" behavior similar to that of Maya as I don't think that the circular Blender Pie menu system will satisfy you in that regard. Also I'd assume that some of the Maya Hotbox shortcuts (shift RMB ...) might cause straight up conflict with object selection, viewport controls, and so on. That said, a nice compact menu built in PME might be all you need.

    Here's an example of a boxy menu built in PME, holding all the non-hotkeyed I need for rough sculpting and viewport shading controls.



     It's compact and instantly readable, and faster to browse than any circular Blender pie. But regardless : as mentionned by @wazou , a new user shouldn't concern oneself with any of that for at least a month or so anyways.


  • Justo
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    What would be your approach to spherizing/bending a flat bolt head guys?



    I started with the Lattice but it is resulting in too hacky a solution I think. Use the Curve Modifier? This would imply first creating an Empty>Plain Axis, creating the Curve modifier on my object, making everything connect correctly, then repeat this process for the second axis? Or is there a shorter, simpler way of doing this?
  • musashidan
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    I would use a lattice with 2 stacked Simple Deform mods set to bend and perpendicular. Point the lattice at the geo and the bend mods at the lattice.
    I'll admit though, Blender's modifiers for this sort of thing are sadly lacking and clunky compared to Max.
  • Prime8
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    Prime8 polycounter lvl 5
    Justo said:
    What would be your approach to spherizing/bending a flat bolt head guys?

    ...
    Model it spherical from the start ;) 
    For an destructive approaches, try proportional editing and "to sphere". 


  • musashidan
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    musashidan insane polycounter
    pior said:







    @pior I'm in the very same boat, mate. I just cannot use those pie menus. I haven't looked into PME yet, but definitely will from your image here. I much prefer custom floating dialogues called from hotkeys and this is exactly the way I have Zbrush set up.

    I'm really missing Max's quad menus. They are highly customisable old-school menus and are context sensitive and different menus are called by modifier keys+RMB.

    I've tried working with Maya's Hotbox too, but while some users swear by it my brain just doesn't work that way.

    What I would love to see is an expansion of the 2.80 Quick Favourites menu in the style of Max Quad Menus.
  • stilobique
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    [...]

    What I would love to see is an expansion of the 2.80 Quick Favourites menu in the style of Max Quad Menus.
    I'm not looking the new open GL api implementation, but maybe it's possible to write an addon like a Max Quad menu. I'm not really fan of this way, but that the perfect mix between a pie menu and a simple popup.
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