SKETCHBOOK - Suprore - NSFW

Joseph Silverman

^^^ click for link to latest post.

Hey guys, did i ever have one of these? I don't think i did.

I finally got a new tablet, so i'm finally diving back in to trying to get good at painting and drawing headfirst. Hopefully this sketchbook will help me guilt myself into putting out/refining even more work!

Will occasionally be nsfw. Some doodles and WIPs to start ->

Jaco

I like the last two, but the first girl has some serious proportional issues. Most noticeably the hands are too small, and arms too short (hands should reach about mid-thigh)

I do think you've got a good grasp on facial proportions though, judging by these sketches and sculpts you've posted in the past. You just need to study more from life I think, as it's sometimes clear that you're drawing things based on memory and not observation.

Keep it up!

Joseph Silverman

Dead on crits, jaco, thanks. I'll try and rope in the freaky proportions in the future, and pay special attention to the arms.

meanwhile, been chipping away on this guy a bit




just starting on the values, still tweaking the design as i go blahblahblah

Joseph Silverman

Got sick, havent been drawing enough. Almost done with this, not diggin the helmet.

Devin Busha

Nice start man, I see A LOT of potential here. My main crit is that it looks like you're jumping into details and shading before locking in the main forms and pose of the characters. That aside, I can see there's a lot of effort in your drawings and will be keeping an eye out on this thread. Goodluck and keep at it!

Joseph Silverman

Thanks for the feedback, man. Appreciated.

Some other doodley stuff.

Joseph Silverman

I need to draw more often. Freaky shit going on with the perspective/foreshortening on the arms and legs.

vofff

she got a big ass.

marlfox8

heh yea

Joseph Silverman

vofff wrote: »

she got a big ass.

nonsense.

Joseph Silverman

got a chance to get back to this, meh stuff

marlfox8

i think it was that weird tribal wood skirt

Joseph Silverman

Gonna try and do more art/update this more regularly.

Some recent speed stuff. Trying to relearn zbrush; in reverse order:

Joseph Silverman

Today is a very polycount day for me, so i thought i'd update this thread with the shit i've been doing. Input, advice, and questions VERY welcome. Keep me thinking and talking about art, please!










TOO MANY STATIC POSES AND NOT ENOUGH STUDIES I KNOW

Joseph Silverman

Aside from being WEIRD AS HELL, this experiment/study in skintones was a pretty gigantic failure. Way too under-saturated, and my knowledge of anatomy is just too iffy without using some reference.



It looks pretty acceptable after i abuse the hell out of it in photoshop, but that's definitely not something i want to depend on.


In addition, robots.



I want to make a LOT more of these, but thumbnailing is something i find extremely difficult. I have a specific aesthetic i'm shooting torward but i'm finding it very challenging to hit.

Daven

Looking sweet so far. I'm really liking the latest sketches you've been busting out. You've got a lot of flavor pouring out, keep it up!

kevlar jens

Lots of cool stuff.
Keep it up

Joseph Silverman

Thanks a lot, guys, encouragement is very appreciated.

This weekend i'm gonna be busy with my soul-crushing retail job, so i'm trying to squeeze in time to do more traditional sketching. Generally i find trad media extremely frustrating; i don't think i know what i'm doing, and i think in general i utilize my sketchbook pages very poorly. Going to try to specifically focus on this in the coming weeks... Not off to a good start. Messy, messy, messy!



Tonight i was inspired by lemonhead's thread to mix some ink in with some liquin i recently bought. This is super cool and i want to do a ton more of it, but it's EXTREMELY challenging to work with. Very easy to completely destroy an image with a few errant strokes.



I think some of my difficulties with this may be the sketchbook paper i'm using, i want to pick up some with a smoother, more marker-friendly surface and see how it goes. I also actually just need to buy some goddamn markers. I'm using a cool grey 10% to do kindof an underpainting on these, and it helps, but it's the only marker i have, i think laying in a few tones with darker markers and then working even darker tones in with the ink would probably be a much better workflow.




Lastly, A few more robots! So bad at thumbnailing, only did a couple, which i guess is completely missing the point.

leslievdb

nice sb m8
there are some very interesting sketches in here, i really like the looseness of them.

keep up the good work

Joseph Silverman

Greetings from minimum wage hellscapeville, squeezed a LOT of shitty sharpie doodles inbetween (and during!) work shifts. There's very little i'm actually proud of here, but i want to try and keep momentum posting in here. Art's art!

I'm getting extremely into doing these kindof abstract little environments dotted around here -- they all suck, but they're teaching me a LOT about composition and, really, painting in general.

Random lines taking shape into something with some kind of illustrative power is an empowering thing to play around with



Also, these. I made these in a rush; no excuses, they're terrible. One's a study, one isn't. I think it's pretty obvious.

Joseph Silverman

additionally, some sculptris silliness:



eddiiittt, slipping this one in here:

Joseph Silverman

Found a couple hours between work and deus ex for digital art tonight. Started work on this robot dog concept, and then got a bit distracted. Mechanics are complicated! So i'm just gonna kinda lay down values and hope it all makes sense at the end.

woof woof bleep bloop.


System404's sketchbook is astounding and inspired me to doodle in color a bit. No ref or anything because i'm lazy and stupid.



edit with another

Joseph Silverman

I made a really simple new brush and tried it out:



Then took it for a quick (1-2 hr) study after John Signer Sargent.

Very educational, and eye-opening about howlittle attention i pay to detail. I fucked the proportions and perspective waaaay up because I didn't look carefully enough, so instead of waste a bunch of time repainting everything im just gonna take what i learned and stop here. Something to focus on going forward.



The way sargent uses color is inspiring, powerful, and straightforward. I wish i could learn a lot more about it.

Joseph Silverman

Trying to keep the momentum up, here's a little bit of what ive been doing lately. Been studying loomis a bit, nothing worth showing yet. Meanwhile, doodles:

ps



(yuck!)

sketchbook pro





As an aside, i started playing with this micron brush marker that gets really cool, natural results. Want to draw something less terrible with it, will probably post more soon!

edit - some more:

Joseph Silverman

I discovered charcoal pencils and fell in love. Odd thing not to have tried before, i guess. Hopefully a LOT of charcoal sketches incoming one of these days soon. I did a few off of the pixelovely gesture drawing tool and want to do a lot more.

Meanwhile;

Scoob's sdk


More Sketchbookrpo



Overall this is one of those shitty days where art feels pretty worthless, but i'm trying to muddle along anyway. Keeping positive and doodling is always the way forward.

Joseph Silverman

sharpie on paper bag, rushed doodles


These are the charcoal pixelovely figure drawings i mentioned before. They suck, i wanted to post a lot more but just as i was starting to get the hang of it i destroyed the tiny remnants of a charcoal pencil that i found and had been using. Need to get out and buy some! Tomorrow!

Of note: ME DESTROYING EVERYTHING BY SMUDGING IT WITH MY FAT FINGERS UGH UGH UGH



tried to keep it up with a conte crayon, this shit is SO HARD TO USE. Proportions? whuauaaaatttt?

Joseph Silverman

Just continuing to experiment with workflow/technique.



That second one is a derivative of the chick above, using the smudge tool to create a majority of the forms. Got the idea from a post by TeriyakiStyle about blending. Super cool way to work, gonna use this a lot in the future.

editing in more as the night progresses;

Joseph Silverman

Also, more pixelovely studies, a small slice of the large amount of EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING traditional art i've been trying to do. This charcoal pencil is MUCH darker than the other one i used and generally harder/less fun to work with. Also doesn't erase as well. Didn't know there was that much variance in them!

Joseph Silverman

so it goes

the study was a huge failure from a get things right perspective, super informative about values though!

Joseph Silverman

I had a hell of a hard time drawing anything decent today, these are the highlights:



And then i got started on this monstrosity. I did a few pencil sketches before i jumped into ps on this one, which is new for me.
In time, with luck, this will get less weird. Or possibly more weird. Cooler, at least.

Joseph Silverman

So i'm really not feeling the above at all, reworking it -- wanna chronicle this here, because this is my first time using this kind of a workflow.

I'm using lots of transfer paper and different colored pencils for revisions. Very fun way to work, much more tactile problem solving than you get working digitally. Still not pleased with the pose, probably gonna change things up a lot.


Will edit in as i chip away at this



-General posture is way stronger but i'm still not happy with the upper body/arms



-Starting to get somehwere! Still not really selling the characters very well. Here's 100% scale of the faces, i think this is the one part where the interplay between the characters is engaging the viewer the way i want it to be. It's also so messy!

-Annnnnd photoshop crashed after another hour, finalizing the details and pose on the creature. Maybe again tomorrow.

aesir

Hey suprore, it's looking good, your improvement throughout is palpable. I'd suggest you focus a little less on silhouette and more on the planes that make up the shapes. I like the confidence in your lines though!

Joseph Silverman

Finally, some feedback! Thanks a ton man, i appreciate the advice a lot and i'm gonna focus on that for sure in the coming days. Any suggestions on books or posts or videos or anything that could help my understanding of analyzing planes?

Not doing anything serious today, just doodling to keep my mind on art whenever i've got some free time. I'm playing with brushes AGAIN, but i think i found something really good this time.

It's based on what i THINK i saw this guy using in his youtube videos, because it looked super smooth and natural work with. It's one of the photoshop default chalk brushes with opacity and size jitter to presure and angle set to direction.

I'm not sure if it's really very similar to what he was using, but it feels great! Here's a little exhibition



edit: blop. will post some sketchbook pages too today or tomorrow. all my art time is getting eaten up by moving and work.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/SupRore/demon2.png

aesir

I did a lot of bridgeman studies when I was younger. I also copied various Loomis designs. All in all, I don't know how much any of that sort of stuff helped me. Just imagine a super basic wireframe on top of the people you're drawing and then fill in some basic shadows where you think the light would hit. Add some cast shadows on top of it. When you shade in with hatching or brush strokes or whatever, follow the form and your "wireframe"

I dig the demon in the last post btw

isso09

Sweet fucking stuff, dude! Your form is marvelous! I would work on perspective and design if I were you though, which is what you're doing with these RIDICULOUS amounts of sketches. Just make sure you think of every object in 3 dimensions. It's a lot harder to draw this way, but once you make seeing every object in 3D automatic, your designs will jump off the page. Reconciling between a compelling 2-d silhouette and a 3d shape is the most important part of prop and character design.

Joseph Silverman

You guys are the best, i appreciate the feedback and advice a ton. I pretty much do art in a vacuum, except occasionally asking the ever badass funkybunnies for crits, so posts like those give me a ton of direction and encouragement.

A little epiphany/change of mindset i had recently: I don't think master artists make any less mistakes than i do, i think they just respond to them much more gracefully. Every accident is a happy accident if it can be made to improve the piece.

Anyway, today's a day off, so i'm hoping to get a lot of art done if i can fit it in. First, stuff from the last several days i never got around to posting -- a little value doodle from last night that i'm not sure was very productive, then my extremely disappointing sketchbook pages from a couple days ago, nothing i'm really happy with at all in those.





The figure drawings at the end are my first bit of art for the day, and are using reference local polycount superhero Makkon shared somewhere. Trying to take your advice and start paying more conscious attention to 3d form, it's challenging and distracting from the stuff i do know how to do, but i can already see incredible changes in how i portray form after just barely beginning this. Excited to focus on this more! These are all pretty fast, a few minutes each.



(someday i need to sit down and draw a billion feet, this is getting embarrassing)

Joseph Silverman

Not getting as much as i'd hoped done today. But a little googling isolated a frequent (like, every ten minute) crash i'd been having with photoshop -- brushes set to follow direction, apparently, are extremely unstable sometimes.

A couple thumbs/ideas -- the second is a bit of overgrowth fanart. I'm not sure if it's worth the amount of time i think i'd need to put into it to do it well, but swordfighting poses are fun!





The body for the horned girl pretty much drew itself, only spent a couple minutes on it, definitely one of my favorite things i've drawn aesthetically. I'll probably flesh her out a bit, she needs more interesting sleeves and less bullshitted hands and legs.

Next to her is some experimentation with the lasso tool. Extremely fast and effective way to work, it's something i have no idea why i haven't been using in my workflow all along.

edit: more! From imagination.

Joseph Silverman

I want to get comfortable making actual illustrations, not just lone figures. Bleck. Some fast, 5-10 minute, photo studies and doodles.


edit: slipping one more in here. My ongoing journey to drawing interesting chicks continues.
Sitting figures from imagination are haarrrdddd, really messed up the proportions on the legs.
Also toying with one of the figures from a few posts ago.

Joseph Silverman

Bleck. Focusing on technique but not really drawing anything good. Animals are always a huge challenge for me, i also have like four pages of atrocious lions.

conte

great stuff, SupRore!
always inspiring to see hardwork
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/SupRore/lasso.jpg
these are my favourites, great shape design and line weight

Joseph Silverman

Conte, man, that means a lot! You are one of my absolute favorite artists here and among the couple of posters who got me inspired to learn to draw in the first place. Thanks a ton.

conte

Joseph Silverman

This day in sketches. Searching for things that excite me enough to make an illustration out of --i feel like there's a serious lack of volume and 3d form in everything i draw, i definitely need to do a lot more studies and some still lifes, but i'm procrastinating on it.

Paper stuff is mostly mechanical pencil, learning to really like it. The female poses are primarily grasping at this exercise by paul ricahrds. The last one's from concept tag.







edit -- why wait? Studies from THIS, WHICH IS REALLY AWESOME, CLICK IT

Joseph Silverman

One more, rushed before bed.

also

gilesruscoe

Man i love your sketchbook, awesome stuff

Joseph Silverman

Thanks man!

Moving at the end of the week, not a ton of time to draw, gonna try to squeeze a bunch of little sketches in where i can. I want to keep updating this thread, but it's probably going to be less work and less productive work for the next week or two.

I'm playing with paint tool sai, which i didn't really understand how to use in the past. Couple doodles to get familiar with it. Marker and brush! A few minutes each. I think this would be a really fun way to thumbnail/prototype ideas, just smudge value around and see what i get.



edit: Oh man! While i was packing i found a black prismacolor pencil, i'd been trying to find these in stores, i didn't know i already owned one. So cool! Gonna draw a ton with this thing. Like threeminutes of scribbles and then back to not-art.

bbob

Great progression here, good stuff. Inspiring to follow

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Joseph Silverman

Bbob, teriyaki, thanks a ton for the replies. I probably will revisit that piece -- but actually because, personally, I don't really like anything about it.

I've been trying to stick to only updating this thread when I have (a lot of) art to show. But just this once I'm going to give in and make this useless blog style post instead -- a lot of my purpose for this thread is to have a record of where I'm at as an artist.

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Moved halfway across the country (for no particular reason) and found it kicked me out of my rhythm with making art way longer than I expected. The week and a half before the move was stressful and impacted my ability to produce art more than I'd have liked it to, and then actually moving was a way bigger blow to my productivity and focus than I expected. Ended up having to spend a couple weeks in hotel rooms, and then some time without internet at home. Also ended up with a not altogether unexpected amount of stress about money, and now at the moment no desk, just a setup with my computer on the floor.

I would love to say I've responded to all of this by picking up my sketchbook and keeping chipping away at art, and I have made a few attempts to do just that, but overall I'm finding myself really out of my groove and out of sorts with art. No ability to focus on studies, no inspiration, and no confidence with anything I draw. So it goes. Art slumps like this happen to everybody, but after the huge, inertial sense of progress i had the last couple months this is really frustrating.

In the end, obviously, this is a wholly internal problem -- nothing is keeping me from doing art aside from little worries and discomforts, and it's pivotal that I train myself to not let these things effect me... But at the moment I just need to just adjust my mindset and knock myself back into drawing a lot every day.

Going to keep trying to re-immerse myself in art over the next days or weeks or however long it takes -- dipping my toes into different mediums i have laying around, looking at a lot of work by artists i respect, leafing through the art related books I've got, and watching some of these videos and tutorials i have laying around and never got to.

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Edit; really don't wanna start posting without including art. From today. Hopefully back to regular updates following this.


I still draw eyes too far apart. I still cant draw feet. Ack.

Joseph Silverman

Today i'm struggling pretty incompetently with color. Proceeding in pretty poorly thought out ways, and trying to refine -- they both came out with okay palettes, but everything else suffered a lot.

Hopefully much better stuff to come soon!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/SupRore/3bust2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/SupRore/4p.jpg

edit: Ahh, even looking at reference a LITTLE helps a lot! So i'm getting back into the swing of things, a bit. It's wild how discouragingly inept i get if i take a several week break off art -- but it only took few hours of solid painting to knock my mind back on track.

Joseph Silverman

Not focusing very well on anything or solving problems very well. Doodling to keep busy.






So, still a bit (a lot) of a hack. Will be back on track soon.