Jungle Dungeon WIP
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Hey guys. I finally have time to start a full blown environment project. It's going to be a dungeon based in the jungle. So eventually what we'll see after the design is shelled out is lots of green foliage coming from the ceiling through openings in the roof, along with some volumetrics.
C&C is encouraged plz :-)
Anyways here is the WIP so far.
C&C is encouraged plz :-)
Anyways here is the WIP so far.
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looks like you could seperate out those main wall bricks onto their own map and model the raised edge, would allow you loads of variation, as you could then blend two maps between very mossy and clean
cant wait for progress
It's only nit picking though, I am looking forward to updates.
But I have a strange feeling looking at your high poly that you privileged the higher frequency details rather than the others. So in other words it looks very crispy where there are flat surfaces + cracks, but rather smooth in holes and broken places.
nah, ive seen plenty of stoone wall like this, its not damage its frost erosion, where weaknesses in the stone get water inside and then freezes expanding and cracking a peice off, doesnt nessacarily effect the brick next to it as that has different weak points. can also happen because of heat, not quite sure why though it could be to do with heat expansion
ICE PRINCESS FROZE IT!
lol... all joking aside
Shep i like your idea... however i think i can achieve the same effect without adding more tris and keeping it a BSP texture..
So much can be done with BSP materials these days when you throw masks and alphas in there you know. But god damn that's a great idea i havn't even thought of doing that :-)
I've been planning the process for a while now... i have all my high poly scenes saved so i can go back and change anything, and bake more maps if i need to. I'm really excited for how this will turn out.
Paro: After i throw a diffuse texture on these, alot of those fine details will be drowned out. I'll be running a high-frequency detail normal map generation using crazybump then blending it in with the deep normals, so hopefully that problem will be flushed out as the project continues.
I'm also planning on re-doing the floor.. It's too level, i want some areas of elevation for the player.
Thanks for all the great ideas and comments/critiques so far guys.
Looking good Virtuosic. I'd say keep on with the bsp route, you can just use your planning splines for the wavy trim to start building a a new BSP base if you wanted to catch more of that ander brick section so you could have it extruding into your pillars.
I might be tempted to scale down your trims to 70-80% their size, then scale up the pillars to 120% so you get more interesting overlpa between your walls and pillars while letting your player viewing height feel closer to it due to seeing over more of the trims height.
Of course, maybe dwarfding the player is the way to go to, whatever feels cooler in the game.
Your could just cut directly into the floor slabs lowpolys you have, do variants where you cut out a few blocks and FFD some undulation, then placing a bsp grout or dirty sand or mossy jugle texture underneath would allow you to show the natural environment eating up the man made environment.
Noob question... What did you use to get the brick looking so amazing. Zbrush? Mudbox? can someone point me in the right direction where i can learn some high poly modeling like this?
dont mean to change the thread topic, just curious
thanks
Jaball: It's really not that hard. Like Kevin said in his Gears 2 thread, it's all about utilizing the grid. What you can do is set the grid to work exactly like it does in any game engine that you want. In our case, we set it up so the grid spacing is 8, and there is a major grid line every 16 lines, this makes small pockets of 128x128, and that way you can plan all of your elements to fit inside that grid. When a piece goes off of that grid, or you plan to tile a certain element, you just offset it by the total size of your grid on whatever axis you need. But remember, planning is the most important part, and the more you plan, the easier your work becomes.
More updates coming soon, i'm stuck in ohio till thursday so i can't really do anything.
Seeing all these amazing posts can be a little intimidating. Its all so good and I feel like I have to learn EVERYTHING to get my foot in the door. With that being said though it sure is inspiring to be able to see such incredible work!
Love seeing all the great work! hopefully after being locked away for a few years I can wow a few of you on here!
cheers
Awesome work, Can't wait to see it finished!
-Buddikaman
Trim
Corner Face Elements
Max Grabs
aaaaand UT shots... the lighting is VERY WIP. The lighting will be the last thing i do probably, but if anyone has any cool ideas make sure to speak out :-)
Vj
vik: Yea that's part of the WIP, because those orange lights need to be less saturated i think because there will be a torch flame there
vj_box: It's a portfolio peice, not a full level. but i'm making the assets for it to be modular so you actually could make it into a full level. Everything is planned, but you have to use the meshes in a specific way that matches the BSP flow and contour
It looks great though! Nice work.
id say that the lips wont be lost when diffuse s added esp if you add moss to vertical surfaces etc
Vj
My suggestion would to increase the depth of your detail work just a tiny bit and then soften some to edges a tad to make it look more anicient.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thumbling/143984674/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/arkangl/2168649300/sizes/o/
These are outside shots but shows the wear I'm talking about. Shallow details would have been worn away quickly.
I hope that I don't sound like a gun model crit nut now turning on the enviroments artists...
Looks great though, looking forward to seeing more.
One i started on the torches that will offer the secondary light source as well as give the lighting a little bit of contrast.
And this was a result of the reworked floor.
Thanks!
-Buddikaman
-buddikaman - Like KJ posted in his awesome UT3 and Gears thread, i work everything out on a grid system first so that i know it will fit with the level. Most of the time i have a general idea in my head when i take it into z-brush, and from there i turn off smooth subdivision (similar to tessalate in max), and subidivide it until there are enough edge loops to keep the corners sharp. From there i start working on general shapes with projection master, then i add in some detail like hieroglyphics and symbols, then overlay some cracks on top of that. After that's done i go in and smooth everything a bit to give it a weathered look, then i go in with clay tool and take out some chunks that match up with the cracks alpha so i get a realistic damage look. Then after that i go in and do another fine detail pass over all that stuff to give it a stone like texture.
The mesh is usually pushing a couple million faces at this point, so i have to cut it up into about 250-500 face sections and crunch them down so that max doesn't run out of memory when i bring them all back.
The Large face statue on the 1st page of this thread was a particularly fun piece to do because i literally had no detail in the base mesh when i brought it in. I modeled it so that it fit into my base scene that i had going in max. From there i subdivided a couple of times and smoothed it out, then started laying in really large forms until i got something that i liked. From there i retopologized the base mesh to fit the curvature of the face (i kept this entirely quads). This way i could get much more detail while keeping a relatively low polycount. When you do not use this method, your base mesh gets messy, and really high face counts, and you can't get fine detail without HD subdividing. After the final sculpt was finished, i retopologized again with my resolution set to 1. This is a great way to build your in game meshes, because it's okay to cut tris in since yo won't be subdividing this at all.
The new floor is looking good, I can imagine lots of little weeds poking out of those cracks when you get further along.
need to do some stairs and an epic doorway and i'll be set to start making the rest of the environment :-)
looking sweet
I forgot to mention I love your zbushed highpoly work please keep posting more.
Looks great though.
The lighting h as changed once again, i took the advice to put out a couple of torches to vary up the lighting, as well as adding a light function that flickers the light so it acts like a real torch.
I'll have some more screen shots soon.
Vj
On a cube ... As requested :-) (Tiled twice)