Intuos 4

Unleashed

Looks like it really is just around the corner!

http://thatposhgirl.com/2009/03/20/first-photos-of-the-wacom-intuos4/

I wonder how much more expensive its gonna be :S

Blaizer

wow, intuos 4, i wonder how good will be respect the intuos 3. I own a intuos 3 a4 and it's nicer compared to intuos2 but nothing so good to draw as with a pencil (it's a bit laggy).

25-03-2009 ^^

e-freak

one word: want!

killingpeople

I like how they put the extra tips in the pen holder.

funshark

It seems to have an enhanced pressure control and precision.... wanna see that

ericdigital

One of the benefits of the intous 3 is the buttons favor a righty or a lefty. It seems like this one only has them on one side, but it does kind of look like that the buttons could pop off and clip on the other side. I would hope so!

|Buddy|

ericdigital wrote: »

One of the benefits of the intous 3 is the buttons favor a righty or a lefty. It seems like this one only has them on one side, but it does kind of look like that the buttons could pop off and clip on the other side. I would hope so!

You can just turn the tablet 180 degrees.

"Reversible tablet design puts express keys in the correct position for right-handed or left-handed users"

bounchfx

whoa!

I wonder how long till new cintiqs? maybe I should hold off on that 12x...

Mister Sentient

|Buddy| wrote: »

You can just turn the tablet 180 degrees.

"Reversible tablet design puts express keys in the correct position for right-handed or left-handed users"

Makes sense.

Joshua Stubbles

do want do want do want

thomasp

perhaps you can detach the buttons and wheel alltogether? :P

Mister Sentient

thomasp wrote: »

perhaps you can detach the buttons and wheel alltogether? :P

But then how would you launch Outlook?

CompanionCube

i know someone who was given a couple for free last week and he says they are amazing and almost eliminate the need for a keyboard

HAL

Looks nice, might get this as I need a new one.

ChaosEidolon

thats cool and all...but ill stick with my nostromo/cintiq 12in combo tyvm! Those side buttons seem cool until you realize it's eating up your tablet space and bumping up againts your keyboard.

That nib holder is cool though...always lose my damn nibs!

Muzzoid

mmmm... looks like sex.

I think it might be soon time to upgrade from my 5 yr old graphire 3 a6....

glib

thomasp wrote: »

perhaps you can detach the buttons and wheel alltogether? :P

Yeah I'd be all over that. No touch strips, no buttons, no giant border around the entire thing. Make it super thin and super light.

I've never understood how anyone can use 6-8 buttons and a couple touchstrips to replace a keyboard with 103+ buttons. I mean I guess it might work for the concept guys and the painters who never leave photoshop. But I'm in and out of photoshop and a dozen other programs on a daily basis, sometimes needing to type, sometimes rotate in 3d space, sometimes paint. I would just love something that took up less space on my desk and accomplished all the same tasks.

bounchfx

yeah I don't think I ever really use the keys on my intuos 3. the entire thing should be a nice thin flat drawing board, as mentioned. maybe they can sell an add on for people interested in that.

either way it's an awesome product.

pior

Having recently purchased a black bamboo to test it out as cheap solution, I really like how they integrated some of it's strengths into the Intuos4, namely the ring thingie and the detachable cord. It sure would be nice to be able to detach the active area as a standalone mini compact tablet tho!

I only wish they'd stop selling a mouse with it, and offered better pen solutions. The classic pen and the intuos2 pen are in my opinion waaaay better than the fat intuos3+ one...

The intuos3 line sure started to feel heavy compared to the almost unbeatable intuos2 so the lighter weight is kinda cool!

Glib, it seems like different users have very different expectations when it comes to speed. I noticed that many 2Donly guys are fine with reaching out for menus and icons, as opposed to 3Dguys more likely to want very very very fast access to tools by keyboards shortcuts.

I think that maybe 12 programmable buttons would be a good enough solution for 3D needs, provided you'd have quite some stuff as onscreen buttons aswell.
You could very well velcro that thing on the top edge of an intuos too :
http://www.xkeys.com/pigraphics/grxkeys/stickmon576.jpg

(But that does not solve the navigation issue for every program tho. Maya is alright for that, since you only need alt and the stylus clicks. But for max for instance it would be a pain. A Spacenavigator can help, but it goes back to the speed thing - it'd feel to sluggish for most fast 3d artists. Maybe a few spinner knobs that actually rotate physically on 3 axis would work well! http://www.arcadeshop.de/images/arcade-spinner-ark-green.jpg)

funshark

Pior > chance! mouse is optional now and the pen seems to be better but with the lack of details, I need to test that or see something convincing.
The tablet seems to be lighter too...

oXYnary

I love my Intous 3, though its surface is wearing away...

Love the integrated nubs since I lost mine right away.

Big question/comment.

What about USB 3.0? I was wondering if they would wait for that since thats going to make USB so much more powerful (delay? None existent). More power.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/everything_you_need_know_about_usb_30_plus_first_spliced_cable_photos

It just around the corner... If they could just hold off a few months and make it backwords compatible with 2.0.. Yea, I know dreaming. Guess it will end up with a Intous 4, "SE" like they have in the past when they started integrating usb into the Intous series originally.

EVIL

I am going to hold off on the cintiq for a little wile, I am smelling a new version of that one coming up in 4 months or so.

HausFly

When are we going to get to a point where we no longer need the tablet? I can't wait until it's just a pen and some sort of USB location point (like the Wii's tv bar). You could then set the drawing area to any size you wanted and draw on any surface you wanted. Get on it Wacom.

thomasp

oXYnary wrote: »

What about USB 3.0? I was wondering if they would wait for that since thats going to make USB so much more powerful (delay? None existent).

would it make a difference for anything tho? i can't see any performance difference between serial port versions and whatever USB they put into intuos1/2/3 series at all. no lag on any tablet i've used so far.

Emil Mujanovic

This looks slick! I do like how the buttons are located on side. I may actually consider using them now but I doubt it would ever replace the keyboard. I'm a shortcut fiend, so I could never bind enough hotkeys to the buttons available.
I'm in no rush to run out and pick one up, I don't even use my Intuos 3 at home anymore, not since I got my Cintiq. But if they release a new batch of Cintiqs then I'll probably be pissed :P

Slum

I'm excited for this. Not so that I can buy one, but so prices will drop on used intuos 3

System

I draw with the tablet offcenter anyway... So i still have plenty of room for my keyboard in the centre/off to the left. I cant even get the hang of using the buttons on the pen

I can see myself making a few hotkeys but i'd still stick to the usual shit like b for brush / space to navigate etc. Im all in favour of more usable space - its a tablet after all, i want to use it to paint not so i can bind more hotkeys...

Michael Knubben

For those who don't use the touch-strip, here's a suggestion:
Set it to [ and ], so you can interactively change the brush-size in Photoshop. It's fantastic.

Super

They need to make them flatter and wireless. Detachable buttons would be great too.

Illusions

funshark wrote: »

Pior > chance! mouse is optional now and the pen seems to be better but with the lack of details, I need to test that or see something convincing.
The tablet seems to be lighter too...

Are they going to lower the price by $60 then if you don't want the mouse (since thats what they seem to think its worth)...?

notman

killingpeople wrote: »

I like how they put the extra tips in the pen holder.

+1


I wish they could do something like this too:


So you could select the tip feel you want for the moment.

bounchfx

this is probably a dumb question to most but i'm curious:

what's with all the nib/pen tip talk?

do you guys really change them that often? I've used a tablet/three different kinds for four years and have never changed the tip. do other kinds do different things or something? I thought it was just if you lost one. and even then, how the hell do you lose one? do you take apart your pen often?

breakneck

nibs have different shapes and made of different materials to better emulate various traditional drawing materials. But like you i have never changed my nibh
example:
http://www.wacom.com.sg/price/accessories/intuos3/intuos3_nibs.html

Entity

nibs tend to wear out after a while, I guess some prefer the pen tips to be sharp

bounchfx

hey thanks! using the black one now

Unleashed

Did some more searching(really cant wait) and found the model numbers:

(http://ec.synnex.ca/vendors/WACOM_TECHNOLOGY.html)

4417285 INTUOS4 SMALL BI-LINGUAL PTK440M
4417286 INTUOS4 MEDIUM BI-LINGUAL PTK640M
4417287 INTUOS4 LARGE ENGLISH ONLY PTK840
4417288 INTUOS4 EXTRA LARGE ENGLISH ONLY PTK1240
4421085 INTUOS4 SML PEN TABLET INCL BUNDLED PTK440
4421086 INTUOS4 MEDIUM PEN TABLET INCL BUNDLED PTK640


Looks like the price is gonna be about 50$ more if the following pages are correct:
http://www.macconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Search.htm?CatId=202885&id=5060&Sort=Availability&DefSort=Y&Term=
https://www.shopsharksystems.com/browse/currency-USD/product/119-computer_hardware/122-input_devices/17-mice/PTK640M
http://www.1click2computers.com/product_details/detail.asp?prod_id=PTK640M&from_dist=I

Wahlgren

http://www.wacom.com/intuos/index.php - American page with info.
http://www.wacom-shop.net/cgi-bin/wacom.storefront/EN?lang=en - European shop with prices.

Dollar does not equal euro!

Big wacom from us would cost me 3000kr.
Medium from europe would cost me 3200kr.

Time to call american relatives and/or force someone at GDC to get me one. (Well i doubt they´re out in stores but still )


Now im gonna go cry.

Mark Dygert

Despite the obvious price gouging... and being very skeptical about any new products from them being rehashes of the same tech in new packaging, I have to say I'm a little excited. Mostly for the ambidextrous support. Being left handed and having to deal with the left touch strip in a high traffic area has always been annoying, even with all of its functions disabled. I hope it doesn't look or feel gimped up when it gets flipped around.

Muzzoid

If nothing else it looks nice.

When i finally upgrade from my 5 yr old graphire 3 a6, (which has been rewired by hard twice) it will be amazing...

When is it coming out in aus .

Wahlgren

Well vig. You will have an upside down wacom logo if you flip it. Hehe. Might bug the hell out of you?
And well. The pressure sensitivity is 2048 now compared to the 1024 of the older tablets. This means everything will be twice as awesome! (ahem, Maybe not)



(This thread should have been in technical, Sorry dudes. Please move it if you want)

stimpack

Vig wrote: »

Despite the obvious price gouging... and being very skeptical about any new products from them being rehashes of the same tech in new packaging, I have to say I'm a little excited. Mostly for the ambidextrous support. Being left handed and having to deal with the left touch strip in a high traffic area has always been annoying, even with all of its functions disabled. I hope it doesn't look or feel gimped up when it gets flipped around.

amen!!! us lefties have been getn the shafted for tooooo long. If they have a left handed option even on the 3's id buy another one.

Marine

you can probably pick it up cheaper elsewhere, wacom sell the big cintiq for £250 more than amazon, so you can expect about £50 off wacom's own prices

Muzzoid

In aus you can get the intuos 3 as a student version without the pretty packaging. It just comes in a brown box and has no software but it drops at least $150 off the price.

IchII3D

Well I have had my Intuos3 for coming on 4+ years now, I have dropped it, thrown it, spilt stuff on it. I ever superglued it. But it still works, infact it works just as good as the day I got it. I supose if your new to getting a graphics tablet may be get an Intuos4, but is there any major bonus to having an Intuos4 over an Intuos3?

Joshua Stubbles

hmm
http://boards.polycount.net/showthread.php?t=61999

sir-knight

haha...t he wacom site seems to be having a bit of a traffic issue. Wonder how many artists are checking it out.

MALicivs

I'm left handed and I have no problem with the current layout. it has buttons on both sides, and frankly they are more than enough considering how much I use them. I need to have my right hand free for swiching between the mouse and the pen on the flywith my ninja skillz.

Illusions

Any word yet on how much it will cost without the optional mouse? Haven't been able to find it yet on Amazon, NewEgg, or PC Micro Center, and I can only see a price listing for it on Wacom's site for the medium size with mouse...

Wahlgren

Illusions wrote: »

Any word yet on how much it will cost without the optional mouse? Haven't been able to find it yet on Amazon, NewEgg, or PC Micro Center, and I can only see a price listing for it on Wacom's site for the medium size with mouse...

In a perfect world 300$. The mouse costs 69$ so. Never saw the point with the mouse anyway. Or... well.. I never used it at least.

EarthQuake

I used to use the wacom mouse, about 8 years ago when i had my 4x5 intous 2. At the time it was better than any of the track-ball mice i had. HEY GUYS, REMEMBER TRACK-BALL MICE?

Edit: Merged threads etc

Rwolf

EarthQuake wrote: »

I used to use the wacom mouse, about 8 years ago when i had my 4x5 intous 2. At the time it was better than any of the track-ball mice i had. HEY GUYS, REMEMBER TRACK-BALL MICE?

Edit: Merged threads etc

whats funny is Wacom Mice > Mac Mighty Mouse. I couldn't stand the either mice, but the Wacom won when there wasn't any other spare mouses at work.