Neverwinter Nights 2
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Just picked it up, fry's had it for 12 bucks off from the normal 50, and I just so happened to have enough in my pocket to pick it up. I don't know how many of you have or do play Neverwinter nights (original) but, after a lot of modding, there were some pretty good multiplayer servers.
Just another time waster I guess. Just finished installing, i'll write my opinions about it when i've played a bit...
Just another time waster I guess. Just finished installing, i'll write my opinions about it when i've played a bit...
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AMD 64 4000+ 1mb L2 Cache
2 gigs DDR PC3200 Corsair
Geforce 6800 GT
I BARELY get 30 FPS with medium to low settings
I'm a little disappointed, mainly because the graphics don't seem to be that outstanding. Don't get me wrong, they're great, and the faces/head models are really cool and animated well. It just seems like it's not really optimized very well, but there are cool lighting features.
I havn't played much into the story because I take a long time to create characters (Im picky). But from what it seems like so far, the early on tutorial, while skippable, still pretty short compared to the original. The controls are a bit different, mainly you used to be able to click anywhere on the model of the NPC to interact with it, and now you have to click the base...
There are a few glitches that need to be worked out, but nothing especially detrimental. The voice acting varies a lot, but on the whole is pretty good.
Summary: Good game so far, obviously early release, lots of new and improved changes from the original (yay for planet-Touched races! plus its using D&D 3.5 rules), need a pretty speedy computer (mainly graphics card, I think I would recommend at least a Geforce 7 series to be content), and generally fun! I think it's a good buy... But again, its an opinion.
NOTE: stupid frys!
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pentium d 3.0
geforce 7800gtx
2gigs of ddr2 800 ram
So i start this up as usual u know crank up the resolution and all the settings, and guess what... in that starting tiny little room... i can BARELY move the damn camera... alright... so i set a few options down like set the resolution from 2560x1600 to 900x600 tun off all the filtering options to lowest, turn textures on medium, turn shadows off all the way, like literally there's no shadows, anyways i do this until the game looks BUTTTTTT UGLY fucking PSONE style... and i get... MAYBE 15fps MAYBE... what the fuck?
so yeah... hmmm
on top of that... i'm not even in the credits...
Seriously though... just looking at this game... i have no idea how this can run so bad... no really... there's absolutely nothing fancy going on whatsoever... ok it has normal maps... the polygon counts don't look that high at all, the textures don't seem to be that high res (i COULD BE WRONG) there are no fancy shaders AT ALL, it looks just like standard diffuse/normal/spec affair, nothing extraordinary Gears of War rain level type stuff... like seriously ... there's nothing super advanced going on on the screen and it runs like total crap... whats up with that?
question is... do i return this turd and claim my hard earned $50 bux back or throw this on the shelf somewhere and wait a few weeks for them to patch this? Its sad but i don't think i'm ever going to play this again... lol with FF12 out, gears of war coming next week and then eventually the wow expansion ... lol so sad. i think i'll stab myself in the eye before i buy another Obsidian game.
It really gives me the impression that their philosophy is "fuck em, theyll buy the game anyway so who cares if its done?". Not impressed.
1) Atari doesn't have the cash to extend development cycles on every game and lets face it every game comes in over budget and past deadline. Last time I checked Atari was in debt up past thier eyeballs and couldn't extend it if they wanted to. They are hanging on by threads and I honestly didn't expect them to make it this long.
2) Unrealistic projections as to when the game will actually be finished. Atari gets a date and sticks to it come hell or high water. When dealing with Atari it is best to pad your time or your extended development cycle comes on your time/dime and in the form of patches.
Anyways, that sucks about the performance. Even if the first one had a crappy story, I really like playing within 3rd edition rules.
Is it also true that there's no online multiplayer out of the box? I remember reading that it wouldn't ship with multiplayer because they wanted to concentrate on the single player game, and then release multiplayer as a patch later.
With the original neverwinter nights, multiplayer was just taken over by the community anyway, and its going to happen again, so I agree with their choice on to not make multiple separate modules and work on the other unattended to aspects of the game... except they forgot to make it play on a decent system.
I hope they patch this soon, as i'm really looking forward to playing this (but i'll hold off on buying untill i'll know beynnd a shadow of a doubt it'll run)
It's so true the game is so unoptimized that it's insane I haven't heard a single person not complain about its frame rate. But still the game is getting high ratings on Meta critic! How is it possible to give a game that is almost unplayable an average 84?!?
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because its very unfair to judge a game based on framesrates, since frames differ from machine to machine.
and "fans" always complain, thats why they invented the internet.
I'd rather have a good looking game that runs well, than a game running slowly on "next gen features"
Anyway, have it here on the desk, will play when I get home.
as a side note, bloodlines had bugs, but at least it ran... i didn't run into any showstoppers myself, it was an enjoyable game, nwn2 doesn't even run... some of these reviews have to start including that fact... i mean... i don't know how important that is to the gamers to know that the game won't even FUCKING RUN on your computer...
It really gives me the impression that their philosophy is "fuck em, theyll buy the game anyway so who cares if its done?". Not impressed.
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That is exactly Atari's philosophy. Also translated as 'we need money now.'
Frank the Avenger
While it does seem like a lot needs to be patched, if you were really interested in the game in the first place, and if you're really interested in just the gameplay over the graphics, you'd turn down the settings so it looks like shit, but it'd still be good gameplay. Plus there seems to be this little thing that everyone who complains about the lag is forgetting, and that's the view distance slider. Default its set to max, but it's NWN! You don't need to see that far anyway! just a waste.
2. nextgen?
Things are "fine", but I'm not hooked yet. One funny detail is that I couldn't find the option for hiring a room in an inn, so I just made the 5-second rest infront of the innkeeper, yay.
Also, I bought a new armour, I look even uglier.
PS. my dwarven buddy is the only thing that makes it all worth playing atm, he destroys everything he looks at, or looks at him.
It does at many occations have nice enviroments, and is fun to play at some points when the story or gameplay gets interesting, and when your eyes stops bleeding from the horrible characters.
The sad thing is, I think it even looks worse than the previous one, it's that awful lack of definition and detail double marred by the fact that it is secretly hogging resources to produce just that.
A good mod is going to need even more custom art than usual. Some of those shots look like Second Life or something.
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It's J Lo!
in fact i think the other game had much more style than this one ...
Is this a different developer ?
I must say, I'm having fun with the editor, and good things can be done, with the right hands.
I just canceled my preorder for it. I don't think I've ever done that for a game. Too bad.
I was going to let this thread die a bit, but this HAD to be posted.