Q4 Patriot

pior

From the Q4 custom models thread :

I'm currently working on a nextgen Patriot model that I want to take at least to the texturing stage.
base mesh
mockup paintover





I've been trying hard surface sculpting on the armored legs but I think I'll end up subd modelling them in the long run. Also got rid of the smurf look on the bandana Next step would be to actually model decent highpoly hands...

Crits and comments welcome.

EDIT : Aaaaaah forgot to mention that this is obviously based on the original Patriot model from ID's Q3A. Model by Paul Steed, texture by Kenneth Scott.

poopinmymouth

GROUNDFLOOR!!!

Awesome work pior. I can't wait to see where you take this! Just don't make it *too* french. :-D

arshlevon

mmmmmm love where you have the trapezius overlaping the delts.. nice stuff.

Valandar

Some VERY nice anatomy work on that!

Brinskee

Wow - incredible...

MoP

Pior is kicking all our asses into gear again... top quality work, as always!

Daz

mebbe the tendons/veins in between forearm and bicep are a tiny bit too hard? Meh, whatever, it's a style thing. Looks stunning as usual mate! Can't wait to see more.

Zatoichi

they might be too close together (the tendons), im thinking, but no real glaring problems. Anyway... it's looking incredible! I love how the lower legs are turning out. Is this done in Zbrush?

malcolm

F-ing cool man!

Lee3dee

(Picks up Jaw from floor) Awesome!!

rawkstar

i really like your basemesh man i know i could have fun with that you know you could whip tha up into an sdk or something ... just saying

Prs-Phil

luuuuuve you

Zeldrik

I love how close to q3 the style of the anatomy is.

He has very tinny ears :P

hawken

even if you only showed the feet, I could tell it was done by pior. lovely stuff, right click save!

JKMakowka

If I would start to nitpick I would mention that the collarbone is really way to overpronounced... but I am not doing that

Oh and just for the fun ot it: make him into a french patriot... with a real 'tri-colore' (sp?)

Joao Sapiro

awesome stuff as usual pior i am REALLY liking the high modeling i wanted to suggest something that might sound stupid , why dont you make him use an handkerchief instead ? it would be original lol

Makkon

Prior, did I ever tell you that I lov... I mean, you kick anus, dude. Uber soiled anus! I hope to become as good as you, some day. Consider me as your fan.

skrubbles

Fuckin' awesome as always!

vahl

I already told you on msn, but kick arse stuff piorou ^^ can't wait to frag that boy

Toomas

Go PIOOOOR!
But im that you killed the smurf hat, its what made hes head shape really interesting.

Paul Jaquays

Patriot Backstory: Originally, the Patriot model skin had a different name. We (id) flew William Connors, the guy who wrote the Q3A manual in to work with us for a week. Bill was one of my former coworkers at TSR, one of the many talented writers and game designers who used to work there before WotC bought the company. While playtesting the game and getting a feel for what he would write in the manual, Bill adopted this model and named it for one of his regular superhero RPG characters. After Bill left and went home to Wisconsin to write the manual, John Carmack noted that something about the model with the stars and stripes "do rag" had changed. "Why did you change the name of that bot?" He asked. "I liked the name Patriot." And with that, the bot using that skin was officially named. While it didn't say great things for Bill's playing skills, it was one of the better name origin stories of Q3A.

Soccerman18

That's really cool to hear. What was his name before it got changed?

Paul Jaquays

Something that wasn't particularly memorable (otherwise, I'd remember it). Steed and I brainstormed most of the character names, but it must have been something that neither of us felt strongly enough about to argue for it. Bitterman, the skin used on the alternate FFA skin for the model was more than loosely based on id co-owner, artist Kevin Cloud.

pior

Woah thats some seriously motivating words guys, that really makes me wants to finish him!

I agree with the anatomy remarks... I mostly did it from posed nude pictures instead of using actual anatomy refs ala Bustos. I'll definately go back and fiddle with that. The arms still need a lot of work imo.

NO french flag... YET! Simply because a friend already told me he wanted to make a frenchy variant as soon as I have the nmap rendered hence I'll leave that to him.

Next big step is to work on the cyber bits, and GUTS! Also started on the hands. They are wonky in places (disproportionned knuckles and nails from one finger to the other) so that needs fixing. But hey Patriot wears gloves and has a mecha hand in original Q3 anyways



Huge thanks for the backstories Paul

OgrO

Awesome work Pior, again

ZAR - FALKBEER

Amazing hands

frostymoose

looks absolutely awesome except the hand. Fingers appear arthritic because the fingers are so puffy!

I want to see this finished so badly.

skankerzero

it's so great to see your 'sharp edged' style come across on a high poly model. I can't wait to see it done.

Sean McBride

good god pior! only one problem.

bigger pictures mate, bigger pictures!

John Warner

fuck. yes.

dude the quality at which you sculpt at is insane. so sharp, smooth, detailed, i love it. i totaly love the hand..

i think his head is a little small, and i think that his anatomy isn't exactly appealing as compared to the sharper cuts on his face-- he's got this really cool sharp, small detail feeling going on on his face, and i dont think that the large shapes of his pecs are supporting it-- they look more like baloons in comparisson. if you could maybe describe the anatomy in a way that more supported the style you ahve going on in the face?

anyway that's just my 2 cents. it's quite nice stuff and i'm sure it'll turn out like the rest of your work, which totaly PWNS.

Timex

Great pior ,your work always surprises to me

pior

Okay, officially re-opened the file



Will try to focus on that one small project for a bit. I'll leave the fleshy bits as they are atm as my computer can't really cope with them and it's getting more frustrating than fun because of that!

Sean McBride

uhg, alright man. I need to sit down with you and watch your workflow. Its looking fantastic.

EarthQuake

Pior: Why dont you just mask off stuff? Makes it much easier on your system.

vahl

NUTCRACKING ARSE !!!

neat stuff piorou

same suggestion as EQ ( though I'm pretty sure you already played with that), that or get a new computer
Can't wait to see that guy in q4...

fritz

AWESOME..you have always been one of my favs pior!!

pior

Sure I do mask the areas I'm not working on... Its just that even with masking it's still slow in response. And masking prevents from having a overall view on the model sometimes.

Anyways! Starting on the techy bits. The mechanical shoulder and spine on the middle pic are a projected template I shape skinfolds around. The back will then be replaced by the actual subd version in the final, put together model.

EarthQuake

sweet tits!

Chunkey

Awesome work so far


loving the sharp details, he's gonna look amazing once the texturing is done

It's given me more motivation to get my character done

Mongrelman

Wow...as usual.

Any chance you could expand a bit more on the template projection thing please? I'd love to be able to add in mechanical stuff in Zbrush without having to sell a kidney to pay for my therapy after doing it some very akward way.

conte

pior
cool stuff man!

kendo

To anwswer your question lupus the mechanical parts seen above where modelled out inside 3ds and imported to zbrush. Then using the Alpha-Grab doc you can create a stampable alpha. Please keep in mind though that when trying this you often need a very dense area of mesh to stamp effectivly (certainly within the 100k mark).

D4V1DC

Damn thats nice pior!

Wonder what happen with the rest of the Q3 remake models.
glad your still at it though always a pleasure.

Mongrelman

Cheers Kendo, something so simple but I never though of that (haven't really used the alpha grab feature...yet ).

Steve Schulze

I'm still planning to go back to my model, I've just got another little project to finish off first.

MackXX

I really like what your doing with the cyborgish parts! The cyborgish sarge skin is my fav. Quake 3 character.

Chunkey

I'm still working on mine, still getting the hang of Zbrush at the moment- got the head nearly done, arms are on it's way and the rest shouldn't take too long to sort out.

Touch wood, I'll have something to show within the next couple of weeks

Kendo: thanks for the heads up, I'll probably give that a try on my next model

Come on Pior!!

Zatoichi

Everyone always complains about Zbrush's ability to do mechanincal bits... looks like you are not having a problem. BTW, I just love how anatomically correct you are keeping. Beautiful!

killingpeople

skillfully done pior, your take on this concept is ill. love your stylistic use of form dude. i really look forward to seeing where this goes.

gauss

no question, i'm very very keen to see this old guy get the full pior treatment. please keep us posted

moose

go pior go!

I may suggest that you do the mech bits in a 3d program, and dont even bother with zbrushing them. you should get a much nicer normal, imo.