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fideorubio

I been thinking for a while to get more profesional tutorials to get better quality on my game art.

Right now I'm divided between these two
https://www.gameartinstitute.com/

or

https://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/

The first one is an online institute the second one is a subscription based with high end tutorials, does anyone in here have experience with the game art institute ? and which one do you think it can benefit me more.

Brian "Panda" Choi

For you, how do you answer the question about "Am I a self-guided learner?"

fideorubio

Brian "Panda" Choi said:

For you, how do you answer the question about "Am I a self-guided learner?"

Well all I've learned so far has been on my own, the problem to me has always been the lack of a structure in the sense that I would see a tutorial that I like and I'll got for it.

Brian "Panda" Choi

Can you name specifically what you feel like you don't know yet or would want structure on? 

I personally am trying to elucidate if it's an issue between a low level skill or high level production skills that you're trying to also find in these particular class types.

You seem to have a handle already on creating game assets according to your sketchfab; jsut seems a matter of pushing forward as usual?

Dare I say a Gnomon subscription will prove more useful.

fideorubio

Brian "Panda" Choi said:

Can you name specifically what you feel like you don't know yet or would want structure on? 

I personally am trying to elucidate if it's an issue between a low level skill or high level production skills that you're trying to also find in these particular class types.

You seem to have a handle already on creating game assets according to your sketchfab; jsut seems a matter of pushing forward as usual?

Dare I say a Gnomon subscription will prove more useful.

I want to achieve a triple A quality on both assets and environments aside of that I need more tutorials on environments because when I attempt to make mine I get stuck on the texturing part of the process.

Taylor Brown

Maybe look into CGMA since they have more specialized, class style courses with proper feedback and goals.

sacboi

I want to achieve a triple A quality on both assets and environments aside of that I need more tutorials on environments because when I attempt to make mine I get stuck on the texturing part of the process.

Probably 80 lvl plus work by seasoned artists i.e:

https://80.lv/articles/environment-art/

Tor Frick - @Snefer

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/amazing-one-texture-enviroment

http://polycount.com/discussion/89682/an-exercise-in-modular-textures-scifi-lab-udk/p1

Glenn Donaldson - @Ged

https://80.lv/articles/high-quality-environments-from-start-to-finish/

http://polycount.com/discussion/200864/old-art-nouveau-style-train-carraige

fideorubio

sacboi said:

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I want to achieve a triple A quality on both assets and environments aside of that I need more tutorials on environments because when I attempt to make mine I get stuck on the texturing part of the process.

Probably 80 lvl plus work by seasoned artists i.e:

https://80.lv/articles/environment-art/

Tor Frick - @Snefer

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/amazing-one-texture-enviroment

http://polycount.com/discussion/89682/an-exercise-in-modular-textures-scifi-lab-udk/p1

Glenn Donaldson - @Ged

https://80.lv/articles/high-quality-environments-from-start-to-finish/

http://polycount.com/discussion/200864/old-art-nouveau-style-train-carraige

Thank you for all the links I'm going to start reading on them

fideorubio

Ok guys after much deliberation I between these two  

https://www.cgmasteracademy.com/courses/58-intro-to-environment-art
https://www.cgmasteracademy.com/courses/45-ue4-modular-environments

And I would love to study here buth the full program is beyond my reach 

https://www.tttc.ca/online/

I looked up both teachers in artstation and they are really good I'm leaning more  towards modular because I feel judging by the gallery of students is more based in interior design and prop modelling where as the other one seem to focus more in architecture and organic stuff. What do you guys think ? 

artbychien

@fideorubio
I haven't taken the two courses you listed.
But I had been once worked with Clinton. He's a very nice, supportive and knowledgable person. I thought his course would be excellent too.

Also, I took Game Art Institute course - the environment artist boot camp last year. I'm very happy about the course also satisfied the mentorship and resources the course provided. The boot camp helps me to push my works to the next level.

Taylor Brown

I'm a current TTTC online student, worth every penny. I'm also into enviro / props but that doesnt truly begin till the 2nd term.

fideorubio

crawl said:

I'm a current TTTC online student, worth every penny. I'm also into enviro / props but that doesnt truly begin till the 2nd term.
You mentioned the CGMA courses how are they compare to think tank? 

fideorubio

artbychien said:

@fideorubio
I haven't taken the two courses you listed.
But I had been once worked with Clinton. He's a very nice, supportive and knowledgable person. I thought his course would be excellent too.

Also, I took Game Art Institute course - the environment artist boot camp last year. I'm very happy about the course also satisfied the mentorship and resources the course provided. The boot camp helps me to push my works to the next level.

I check your projects you have a really good understanding on references images and how to capture the different part of the scene on a concept image, where have you learned that skill or may be refined that skill?

And the game art institute was also an option I was considering but I think his website hasn't been update in a while and I couldn't find opinions on the internet dude to having a common name "game art institute" I guess is pretty common, but if you could throw more light into what they taught you there how was the course design and your overall view.

artbychien

@fideorubio

You mean which project? Or a specific piece on my artstation?

The course I took with GAI is the environment artist boot camp. We have two live webinars with two instructors per week.
We need to choose either we would like to focus on the organic shape or hard surface modeling.

The webinar topics include gathering references, project planning, modular design, creating trim sheets and tileable material, environment modeling and texturing, lighting, rendering, post-processing, etc.

The instructors would walk you through all the process of creating a game environment in 12 weeks and answer your questions.
We also have a Facebook-like forum, where we post our working in progress and assignments. The instructors are very knowledgeable and have good eyes for game art. They usually answer all our questions in details after class on the forum as well.
After that 12 weeks, we had four weeks of weekly critique with Ryan Kingslien, which I found it helpful too.
We can access so many talks with some of the best artists on the forum too.

I would say if you already have a fundamental background in game art and would like to push your work to the next level, GAI would be a good choice.

Taylor Brown

I myself have not taken any CGMA courses but I am fans of quite a few of their instructors, some of which have produced tutorials in other venues if you want to check them out. I have heard nothing but good things though from others on here as well as a few classmates. As far as how they compare, I can't say with certainty. With TT there is an expectation (based off more senior classmates' experience) of 40-60 hours of effort a week. They push hard. This first semester is more of a general overlook at CG. We have 4 classes - Maya, 3D Modeling, Look Dev and Texturing and then a ~5 week long Final Project. Beyond the first term you start to specialize (I myself will probably go the Enviro for Games path) and refine your skills. Everyone I have met so far has been great, young and old from all over the world with a broad range of skill levels.

I plan on tracking all the work I do for assignments on my artstation blog so feel free to follow along to get a better idea of what it's like.