Star Wars Battlefront
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So it looks like we may finally be getting an update next month:
http://goo.gl/Bvqo8S
I'm really hopeful for this, because still have 0 confidence in Dice, and the Frostbite engine, right now.... but I still can't help getting excited about it.
http://goo.gl/Bvqo8S
I'm really hopeful for this, because still have 0 confidence in Dice, and the Frostbite engine, right now.... but I still can't help getting excited about it.
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I hope we get news
Dice has some pretty big shoes to fill, if only because of the nostalgia felt for the series (I've gone back and played the games recently. The gameplay's good, but hasn't aged as well as the classic arena FPS's gameplay has).
Then again, counter-strike doesn't feature 64 players connected on one server.
Um, because the last Battlefield game made with that engine was a buggy mess? Because the network code and on-line server issues were front and center in that debacle?
I like Star Wars as much as the other guy. And I certainly want the new Star Wars: Battlefront to kick ass. But I don't think a little bit of skepticism is unwarranted. And a lot of that skepticism is going to be centered around past issues with the engine. Maybe everything will be fine. Maybe all of the issues with the engine have been smoothed out, and won't be present in this release. But I'm not going to get all that excited over a little bit of bull-shot.
It just feels, to me, like DICE is falling victim to their own successes. They are so busy trying to pump out the next game, that no one is stopping to stabilize that game engine.
Then again, I don't work there, so HOPEFULLY someone finally did that, for Battlefront, since it's such a high profile game. The visuals that they teased last year, looked absolutely amazing.
Didn't get to play a Battlefield game since Bad Company 2, so even if the game turns out to be a SW themed Battlefield, I am going to be happy.
Seeing how Battlefront aged really poorly, I don't think theres alot they can borrow from the old games gameplay wise, so my guess is a 3rd person Battlefield game with lightsabers.
One thing for certain, this game is going to look dope.
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Man, the Star Wars 7 trailer yesterday and this is just an overload of childhood dreams brought into the present with a layer of awesomeness draped on top
Have to contain the hype, have to remain cautiously neutral, until the reviews come in or even until we get our hands on the game/eyes on the movie. Still, It's looking like some hot shit so far on both fronts
It's a good time to be a star wars fan
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God damnit, UK site compared to US site (scroll up)
"available November 20th" for UK instead of 17th, why whyyyyy
But, for anyone here, working on the game, it looks absolutely beautiful, and you should be applauded for the visual pleasures
Does your name come from that certain star wars episode 2 scene in the bar? haha
Anyway yeah, I hope there'll be some dogfighting above Endor as the ground troops fight, that Y wing scene could either be an AI bomber or an actual player bombing targets that the ground troops mark
The old battlefront 3 prototype (that never got released) seemed to have ground to space fighting, you could hop into a ship and fly up out of the atmosphere. I think there was footage of some giant ship battles as well. The quality of the graphics was nothing like this though
That reveal trailer looks absolutely beautiful, but ya, I need to see actual gameplay footage. Not just in-engine cinematics. Even if there is no trickery there, which I feel there isn't, it still isn't gameplay. The last few shots appear to be the start of a mission, but that's still cinematic type stuff. How does it look from the users view. UI and all.
haha I get that alot, although I actually came up with my username before the prequels when I used to play alot of the Day of Defeat when it was a mod (loved the kar98 and bayoneting
Then again, I'd rather people think I got my username from star wars than the wand in Harry Potter...
wow that's a massively disappointing thing to hear. I hope they're saving it for DLC rather than not doing it at all.
can i do local multiplayer with my kids like i did with BF2?
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Split-screen 'missions'. Hopefully more, because that'd be awful if you had to play online to get quick battles in local multiplayer.
One thing I hope for is that the lasers need to travel across the world before they hit someone, instead of hitting them the moment you pull the trigger. That delay and compensating for it made the combat in older Star Wars games really unique.
The best look we have at "ingame" impo those last few segments, which of course, look a lot worse than the rest of the game.
They are also aiming for 60FPS on console... Do people really expect it to look like that AND be 1080p? They couldn't even manage that with BF4 and Hardline...
I want... No... NEED this game to be amazing. But I can't help but feel like its being hidden a bit... They would have got so much good will from people from just releasing gameplay
Also I hear theres no ADS? I know there wasn't ADS in the old ones but I think this is the wrong call here..
There's been ballistic physics in the last few battlefields so I don't see why not
Lasers in the movies move amazingly slow, I never really understood why they'd use lasers over bullets haha
It's marketing, there will always be bullshots (or in this case bullvids haha)
Anyway we're seeing some gameplay on Sunday apparently, hopefully that'll rest some fears
ADS is an interesting one, I believe that removing ADS (i.e. your gun is always accurate rather than only being accurate when you ironsight) actually promotes more skill based gameplay a la quake, csgo, unreal tournament rather than say CoD or battlefield, where if you get the drop on someone AND ironsight, you are super accurate against the opponent, who has not spotted you but ALSO doesn't have their ironsights active
Essentially with no ADS, getting the drop on someone will not be such a huge advantage. More of a game design discussion than an art one haha
I still play JKA hehe. There's a group of people working on updating the engine, which is exciting.
seconding this. star wars is big business, not some game that gives you local multiplayer or space battles as an expansion pack.
The explosions look just like the special effects in the film too, I didn't notice at first
They even have Vader's asymmetrical mask. The detail is faithful
Damn, I should probably get into it again sometimes. I actually recognize you from the Movie Battles scene haha. Spent years playing that thing on and off.
Yeah, I don't think it would be a tech problem. But if they make the lasers really slow, I'm not sure how people would react to it. I hope they will at least meet it halfway and make blaster fire faster than the movies, but slower than regular shooters. Being able to strafe out of the way of incoming fire was a pretty cool thing.
The term is utterly meaningless - we've all seen what engines can do when you crank them up to the max and throw pretty assets and expensive shaders into them. Crysis was guilty of it nearly 10 years ago (and the top-end features that did make it into the game still didn't run a decade later), and plenty of other games have done it since (Watch Dogs, anyone?).
I'd rather wait until I see actual gameplay before commenting on the visuals.
But if it's running on 10 GTX Titans, then yeah, in-engine becomes pointless. You might as well call it CGI at that point.
http://www.polygon.com/2015/4/18/8450279/star-wars-battlefront-will-have-offline-singleplayer-wont-use
The trouble is, BF4 comes out a few years ago on xbox one and PS4, and it runs at a disgusting 720 on the one... It also looks dated.
Hardline comes out, and has no improvements at all, in fact it looks worse and runs worse, although that's likely the devs...
Then we see this, and... Its suddenly a CGI level masterpiece. People cry wolf right away, and then they drop in the bomb shell that its going to be 60fps.
Really. 60fps... On consoles... With those graphics?
The "nxt gen" consoles are seriously under powered. The cpu in the PS4 is crap, the GPU average. The GPU in the xbox one is average, a little worse off than the PS4, and the CPU is crap but a little better.
In short they want us to believe that this game will look lightyears (lol) better than BF4, and run at a higher resolution AND at a locked 60fps?
WHERE ARE THE RECEIPTS.GIF
Seriously, I doubt it very much. I love me some Battlefront, I really, really do, and will easily eat crow if I'm wrong. But I just can't see it happening. I also think the xbox one will once again run in a shitty resolution and actually think the PS4 version will as well. Its bad enough that MGS5 runs at 720p on xbox one and 1080p on PS4, that's just fucking insane, and I wouldn't even bother releasing the game, its no wonder Kojima has gone... Disgusting... its 2015 and we still have 720p games...
Well played.
wouldn't want people to hate the game for... Alderaan reasons.
Always a good idea to wait for reviews, but I think it's a blanket statement to be wary of a game specifically because it's released under the biggest publisher in the industry. Keep in mind that DICE is making it. Even if it turns out to be a battlefield clone, it'll still be fun. They know how to make a good multilayer fps.
I beg to differ. BF4 was a disaster, and DICE did a terrible job of fixing it. BF3 was handled pretty much the same, but at least started in a better state. To top it off, bugs (in both versions) were resolved, only to return in later pages, because of poor code management. Even worse, resolved bugs, from BF3, returned in BF4... and hardline
I don't want to turn this into a DICE bash session, because I'm trying to remain positive about Battlefront, but please don't put them on a pedestal that they no longer deserve. The EA fear stems from concerns that EA drove/pressured DICE into this state.
I won't go into the other titles published by EA that have been released with fairly poor quality/gameplay, just saying approaching with caution seems like a good idea.
No. It's made by EA. DICE is completely owned by EA.
A do they know how to make good multiplaye r? I beg to differ. BF4 was disaster on launch, and frankly not much of an upgrade to BF3..
Ha really!? I would love to get back into my JK2/JKA modding roots
I can't wait for some gameplay vids on this beast, first time I've been psyched about a starwars game since forever.
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[EDIT]Not as disappointed after finding this comment : "The game creator states, "All I can reference right now is the showcased gameplay clip with AT-ATs on Endor that are on-rails. Once you try it out and see gameplay, you will understand why its important theyre on-rails. Theyre the objective, and they need to be going in certain directions.""
Sounds like they're probably part of an attack/defence type objective, which might not be so bad if it's setup around the lines of the tank maps in Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory.
That said, I'd very much prefer it if they tried to avoid deterministic sequences of events in the average match. I'd rather have a static map than a "cinematic experience". But if different events could be triggered independently of one another, and they only affected the maps locally, I'd be down.
I'm not too concerned about balance, because I've always loved the asymmetric nature the Battlefront games had (Hoth, Kashyyk Docks). Granted, that was probably due in part to bad design, but I'd actually be pretty disappointed if there weren't at least a few maps where it was considered an achievement to win as one side or the other.
The last Battlefields I'd played were Bad Company 2, and 1943. After recently picking of Battlefield 3, I'm starting to feel everyone's skepticism. Of course, it doesn't help that I refuse to put Punkbuster on my PC and that I'm allergic to browser plug-ins.