Nvidia GTX 900-series
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So the GTX 970 and 980 has been released.
GTX 970 & 980 Reference REVIEW:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_970_and_980_reference_review,1.html
Pricing:
GTX 980: $549 / 452 EUR (ex VAT)
GTX 970: $329 / 270 EUR (ex VAT)
GTX 760: moves to $219
Basically lots of performance for a pretty cheap price.
I just got my MSI Twin Frozr V GTX 970 4gb today, I haven't had any time to actually test it yet.
Anybody else got theirs or the 980? and what are your thoughts?
GTX 970 & 980 Reference REVIEW:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_970_and_980_reference_review,1.html
Pricing:
GTX 980: $549 / 452 EUR (ex VAT)
GTX 970: $329 / 270 EUR (ex VAT)
GTX 760: moves to $219
Basically lots of performance for a pretty cheap price.
I just got my MSI Twin Frozr V GTX 970 4gb today, I haven't had any time to actually test it yet.
Anybody else got theirs or the 980? and what are your thoughts?
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Plus, did they just skip over the 800-series completely? That's weird.
That is DisplayPort. It's a format commonly used for very high resolution monitors (2550px, 4k, etc), mostly for 27" and higher. I like DP a lot better than DVI, it's not as big and clunky and you don't need to screw anything into your GPU.
you can easily turn the Display Ports into HDMI compatible ports vida rather cheap adapters.
//edit checking the Benchmarks: holy **** the 970 is just 2 fps behind the 780 Ti (in BF4), that still costs 588 Euro vs the 970 GTX that costs around 330 Euro.... wonder what Nvidia will do about prices.
Then i would still be on a Riva 128...since it still is working.
Which is why I am waiting to see. ( willing to bet the price will drop to $499 after xmas ).
Also smaller chip sizes from foundries will probably be coming soon with a lot of advancements happening fast. So if one were to go with Maxwell now I guess u could justify the few frames u get over gtx 780ti with the stabilty one would expect from a mature process and the power savings they managed over kepler. Considering this will be the first releases I can remember without a huge jump in performance I can't say a return to "almost" the old pricing is cause fer to much celebration tho?
Yep. Definitely wait if possible.
AMD is set to announce their next GPU on Sept. 25th.
http://wccftech.com/amd-announcing-generation-product-25th-septemeber-runs-pills-required-marketing-campaign/
Value-wise though you can't beat the GTX 970, pretty close to the 980 for $220 cheaper.
dual-link DVI, display-port, hdmi, thunderbolt - what are the differences/advantages when driving high resolution displays? i have all of the above in use in various combinations and wouldn't know.
As a true representative of Gaben PC Master Race. I need the most powerful hardware on the market, to make sure that my superiority is going unchallenged and I can look at those console gamers who think that upscaled 720p and 30fps is good enough.
On other note, not everyone is making console games. I say, that since Crysis 1, there is unpopulated niche for PC exclusive games, which will bring your PC to the knees, and will look better than real life.
There are people who really want this kind of games, and will pay the price for it. For software and hardware.
On other side, only hardware support for voxelization is truely new. Lots of other stuff is possible since Fermi and Kepler. Like sparse textures (OpenGL), in DirectX known as Tiled Resources and now Tiled Volume Resources.
Of course NVIDIa won't add support for it for older GPUs in their directx drivers, even though they are perfectly able to support it.
That is unfortunately not really known. NVIDIa do not provide driver support for new DirectX version for older GPUs. Only the version of DirectX that was around GPU release is supported.
So we might end in situation when there will be GTX 1080 next year and only it will, have full DX12 support.
Of course Microsoft might be really piss of by this politics, as it could slow down adpotion of DirectX12 and Windows, to which new DirectX will be locked (I guess Windows 9).
So I'm inclined to believe that all NVIDIa GPU will support DX12 to the maximum of their capacity. Including Bindless Resources and Sparse Resources from Fermi up.
Yes, but that is not really NVIDIa politics about drivers. Technically they can support, but you need driver support for it.
Unless Microsoft forces on NVIDIa full DirectX12 support for older cards.. We might end up only with "support".
Nvidia said that the 900 are supposed to be DirectX 12 cards. although that is kinda impossible to say right now since the hardware specifications for directx 12 haven't been announced yet.
i'll be waiting with an upgrade until directX 12 is released and i can be certain my new card supports it, until then my GTX 660 does the job just fine i hope.
NVIDIa also said that Volume Tiled Resources are new, where in fact such feature is supported since Fermi, using OpenGL ARB_Sparse_Texture
You are better off to hold out.
Very true, but I see possibly selling my 770 4gb and going with the 980 a decently viable choice. That, or getting a second hand or close out 770 4gb to rock in SLI (which is faster than a single 980 by a crazy margin, but SLI support is limited especially in our 3D pipeline). These cards are amazing for the price, nearly a 30+% jump in performance from a 770 to a 980.
This is very true, and for me personally it is an option as I have 1050w PSU from a previous 6970 crossfire setup. But a very valid point with those without 300-400w free. If you did not, it would make more sense to hold out or sell the 700 series and move up, or hold off to the next gen. Then again, super circumstantial as always with workstation setups, and if you have a 780ti or titan... might as well wait. The Titan was designed as a computation card first and foremost and handles rendering quite efficiently from my understanding.
Main concern with an SLI/Crossfire setup, your render software will never really take hold of that second GPU entirely (if at all), and then would make the newer gen cards viable with the greater VRAM and clocks.
EDIT:
@Gir, So true....... lol Looks like I am going the SLI route.
Here is how it looks (not my machine though)
Here are my current system specs:
MSI Z77A-GD65, Socket-1155
Intel® Core i7-3770K Processor
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 16GB CL9
MSI GTX 970 Twin Frozr V 4GB
BF4:
Everything Max at 1080p = 100fps (without max AA = 160 fps)
Batman Arkham Origins:
Everything Max at 1080p, all DX11 features (even TXAA) = Min: 55fps , Average: 71fps
It idles around 40* celcius, and under load it's around 60*
Which compared to my old GTX 680 was around 80* under load.¨
Overall:
Super happy with the card, it's very price-worthy. Money well spent especially if you're sitting on something with less performance than a clocked GTX 680. In Sweden the GTX 970 tend to be a bit more expensive than in other areas, in the UK it's very VERY price-worthy.
From what I've heard it beats out most opposition as well when you clock the card. Which I will probably do in the future.
On the upside...
Since the chip technology production ran into some snags, Nvidia had to pull off some bit of engineering to eek out enuff frames to beat gtx 780ti using less power. Instead of being able to just cram more with the smaller size advantage. Advancements that might have never happened if they were not stuck at 28nm??
For fans of stereoscopic immersion 3dvision-blog.com has a review of the 900 series VR tech:
http://3dvision-blog.com/9333-nvidia-introducing-vr-direct-technology-with-new-gpu-launch/
only cause intel can do it doesn't mean NVidia can
yer right but as Intel is aggressively trying to close the performance gap between discrete and onboard gpus...
Nvidia must aggressively compete in a market where most the gpus on the showroom floor of yer average brick n mortar are onboard Intel.
Even if that performace doesn't represent our demographic...
We will most likely reap the benefits ( 20nm advancements which are already late )