Can someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think I heard white was a color that we might want to avoid for new bloom.
I think it has something to do with death and funerals.
well about the white color, in my country (vietnam-which is pretty close to china), yes, white is one of the main color ppl use for funerals ( headband, clothing, flags....). But, although our country and china have kinda similar culture, i did look up and rarely find anything white that is related to death and funerals in china ( maybe there isnt, or maybe i didnt find deep enough), so i see no problem to it for now
Looking really nice Motenai. Would love to know what's contributing to your lighting layers.
Do you not normally bake a light Spec or gradient pass? Is this Ao + bent normals?
well about the white color, in my country (vietnam-which is pretty close to china), yes, white is one of the main color ppl use for funerals ( headband, clothing, flags....). But, although our country and china have kinda similar culture, i did look up and rarely find anything white that is related to death and funerals in china ( maybe there isnt, or maybe i didnt find deep enough), so i see no problem to it for now
It *should* be the same in china. White has the association with death and mourning here in chinese-majority Singapore too.
"White, corresponding with metal, represents gold and symbolizes brightness, purity, and fulfillment. White is also the color of mourning. It is associated with death and is used predominantly in funerals in Chinese culture.[3] Ancient Chinese people wore white clothes and hats only when they mourned for the dead."
I was actually going white more for a sense of good and purity, which kinda fits from this description.
Unless you are using pure white, otherwise I don't think is a problem, well black is more dangerous than white colour in design in tradtional Chinese mindset.
I've never heard of white being associated as such outside of Wikipedia though, and wearing white whilst visiting during Chinese New Year is a massive no no. From my experience the symbolism of death is what comes to mind first. Even if white has other meanings death sorta takes precedence.
I think be careful with the white. Your use of white mixed with orange and gold has been pretty selective though, and should be alright.
PURPLE - spiritual awareness, physical and mental healing, hence strength, abundance, red purple brings luck and fame. Purple (紫; zǐ) refers to the North Star (Polaris), which in ancient China was called the Ziwei Star, the North Star was in traditional Chinese astrology the abode of the Celestial Emperor. (see also: Purple Forbidden City)
YELLOW- nourishing, supporting, stabilizing, ripening, grounded, solid, reliability, sunbeam, warmth, clarity, royalty, good faith, empathy vs anxiety
The textures does look nice, but I can't say I really like the white. I feel like there are too many colors being combined. The horns and the white cloth could have at least a gold/red tint IMO. The hair is also looking quite a bit noisy and flat from that view, though it can possibly look a bit better ingame with masks.
Can I see the wirefreame? Wanna check out some stuff on the hair.
Looks awesome, you're quality is amazing like alwys.
Only the white doesn't really seem to fit the color sheme, wouldn't be a red variation look better?
Thanks for the feedback, in general i dont like heroes with only 2 main colors, so i usually add a third, to better differenciate it from the original.
In this case i think that white fits the theme of the priestess/sorceress. I think the only other color to make sense would have been black or a very dark gray, but i think it wouldn't have worked so well on the theme side
Looks great, but doesn't white mean death in China? asociated to death?
"White, corresponding with metal, represents gold and symbolizes brightness, purity, and fulfillment. White is also the color of mourning. It is associated with death and is used predominantly in funerals in Chinese culture. Ancient Chinese people wore white clothes and hats only when they mourned for the dead." (from wikipedia)
I'm with Andyk125, black would work so much better, it would also make your gold decorations a lot more readable..
Sure, but aren't the heroes killing each other in every match ? Is "double kill" dubbed differently there ? Are gamers buying dota2 items in China as sensitive about this as the "traditional word" says they are ?
While it is great to pay attention to the symbolism of colors, I don't think it should totally lock us out of using them. Now, my question would be : lets say that in china, someone wears a red t-shirt with a vertical white stripe with gold trims. Would that be considered bad luck/representing death ?
(Not trolling here - just genuinely asking the question)
Now to be fair, the white stripes being highlighted by a gold trim makes them look like a standalone element on their own, and they could be seen as "ribbons representing death". But while skulls are a no-no, is the representation of death through its color really an issue ? (again honest question here, and regardless of the answer that doesn't necessarily mean that the set should be one way or another. Just genuinely curious.)
I am not sure if black would work that well - it's a good idea to try out, but there is no way to make a definitive call before trying it with a paintover. I personally think that black would muddy up the design ...
White looks great and gives really unique look to set. As for this death associations you can google "chinese funeral dress" to make sure it have nothing similar. You guys sound like this color is forbidden in China at all, which is not truth. White elements in dress are totally ok imo.
Sure, but aren't the heroes killing each other in every match ? Is "double kill" dubbed differently there ? Are gamers buying dota2 items in China as sensitive about this as the "traditional word" says they are ?
While it is great to pay attention to the symbolism of colors, I don't think it should totally lock us out of using them. Now, my question would be : lets say that in china, someone wears a red t-shirt with a vertical white stripe with gold trims. Would that be considered bad luck/representing death ?
(Not trolling here - just genuinely asking the question)
Now to be fair, the white stripes being highlighted by a gold trim makes them look like a standalone element on their own, and they could be seen as "ribbons representing death". But while skulls are a no-no, is the representation of death through its color really an issue ? (again honest question here, and regardless of the answer that doesn't necessarily mean that the set should be one way or another. Just genuinely curious.)
I am not sure if black would work that well - it's a good idea to try out, but there is no way to make a definitive call before trying it with a paintover. I personally think that black would muddy up the design ...
Wearing a red shirt with a vertical white stripe would imo not be an issue. Wearing a predominantly white shirt with some red in it would still be considered bad luck. Like I said in my post, just be careful when using white.I don't think Motenai has crossed any boundaries with his work. The use of white is tasteful and not over the top.
And let me be clear, white does not mean death in Chinese culture. It's associated with it, but it does not mean it. When I see white ribbons I don't think "oh ribbon's of death!" However things like full white dress or white suits and white candles which are burnt at funerals are so closely related to death it would be good to stay away.
I want to add that Chinese are highly superstitious. You guys might find such things trivial, but to the Chinese it does matter. Wearing mostly white during Chinese New Year and therefore associating death with spring is bad luck. You may not celebrate Chinese New Year fully in the immediate years after a death in the family, and in the first year the CNY writings are to be written on white paper. You should pay off all debts before CNY arrives, otherwise it's bad luck. You cannot spring clean once CNY starts, it's bad luck (you'll sweep the fortune of spring away). This extends from colours, to practices, to handphone and car plate numbers. Personally, I'm not that traditional, so some of my recollections of what means what might be inaccurate, but the general gist of it is there.
I was in Shanghai 2 weeks ago, and there they have statues of a fortune creature called Pixiu - you're allowed to touch it anywhere except for it's teeth because the teeth will "eat" your fortune. Fortune and wealth is very deeply embedded in Chinese culture, so it'd be wise not to underestimate it.
White looks great and gives really unique look to set. As for this death associations you can google "chinese funeral dress" to make sure it have nothing similar. You guys sound like this color is forbidden in China at all, which is not truth. White elements in dress are totally ok imo.
I don't know about rural China, but I doubt people wear that at funerals any more. White elements in dress are certainly not forbidden, but wearing predominantly white during CNY is as I've mentioned earlier considered back luck.
Of course, that being said this is all for some virtual event in an online game. I don't think people are going to be lynched if they submit white coloured cosmetics.
nice works mate i got a question how do i save mask 2 as one file without losing all the layers (spec collor, gloss etc,) becuase when i save it as TGA and open it again with photoshop it is one image and all the layers of the mask gone
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probably it's due to the thickness of the clothes as well, japanese has thicker fabric
i think you mean Kabuki, or Jiraiya (similar appearance ) hehe
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It brings back so many memories of then i used to play Samurai Shodown! ;_;
Edit: AHHHH that gif from KoF 2001 is awesome too
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really curious to see how the hair rigs & how she looks in game. She feels like a bad ass sorceress.
A Ram-ceress if you will. Ho ho ho ho.
Oh man, some of that hair rigged to the dress could give some cool results. Cant wait to see the finished product in my dota
Can someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think I heard white was a color that we might want to avoid for new bloom.
I think it has something to do with death and funerals.
Anyone have any idea?
well about the white color, in my country (vietnam-which is pretty close to china), yes, white is one of the main color ppl use for funerals ( headband, clothing, flags....). But, although our country and china have kinda similar culture, i did look up and rarely find anything white that is related to death and funerals in china ( maybe there isnt, or maybe i didnt find deep enough), so i see no problem to it for now
Do you not normally bake a light Spec or gradient pass? Is this Ao + bent normals?
It *should* be the same in china. White has the association with death and mourning here in chinese-majority Singapore too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_in_Chinese_culture
The textures are looking really good though! And mixed in with the other colours I don't think that the white will be too bad.
I was actually going white more for a sense of good and purity, which kinda fits from this description.
I think be careful with the white. Your use of white mixed with orange and gold has been pretty selective though, and should be alright.
Here's also some chinese color's and what they symbolize. The link explains their origins (five elements/ black and white before that).
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/Chinese_Customs/colours.htm
A possible color choice
This is white.
Can I see the wirefreame? Wanna check out some stuff on the hair.
Only the white doesn't really seem to fit the color sheme, wouldn't be a red variation look better?
In this case i think that white fits the theme of the priestess/sorceress. I think the only other color to make sense would have been black or a very dark gray, but i think it wouldn't have worked so well on the theme side
"White, corresponding with metal, represents gold and symbolizes brightness, purity, and fulfillment. White is also the color of mourning. It is associated with death and is used predominantly in funerals in Chinese culture. Ancient Chinese people wore white clothes and hats only when they mourned for the dead." (from wikipedia)
I'm with Andyk125, black would work so much better, it would also make your gold decorations a lot more readable..
Anyway, great set.
Sure, but aren't the heroes killing each other in every match ? Is "double kill" dubbed differently there ? Are gamers buying dota2 items in China as sensitive about this as the "traditional word" says they are ?
While it is great to pay attention to the symbolism of colors, I don't think it should totally lock us out of using them. Now, my question would be : lets say that in china, someone wears a red t-shirt with a vertical white stripe with gold trims. Would that be considered bad luck/representing death ?
(Not trolling here - just genuinely asking the question)
Now to be fair, the white stripes being highlighted by a gold trim makes them look like a standalone element on their own, and they could be seen as "ribbons representing death". But while skulls are a no-no, is the representation of death through its color really an issue ? (again honest question here, and regardless of the answer that doesn't necessarily mean that the set should be one way or another. Just genuinely curious.)
I am not sure if black would work that well - it's a good idea to try out, but there is no way to make a definitive call before trying it with a paintover. I personally think that black would muddy up the design ...
Wearing a red shirt with a vertical white stripe would imo not be an issue. Wearing a predominantly white shirt with some red in it would still be considered bad luck. Like I said in my post, just be careful when using white.I don't think Motenai has crossed any boundaries with his work. The use of white is tasteful and not over the top.
And let me be clear, white does not mean death in Chinese culture. It's associated with it, but it does not mean it. When I see white ribbons I don't think "oh ribbon's of death!" However things like full white dress or white suits and white candles which are burnt at funerals are so closely related to death it would be good to stay away.
I want to add that Chinese are highly superstitious. You guys might find such things trivial, but to the Chinese it does matter. Wearing mostly white during Chinese New Year and therefore associating death with spring is bad luck. You may not celebrate Chinese New Year fully in the immediate years after a death in the family, and in the first year the CNY writings are to be written on white paper. You should pay off all debts before CNY arrives, otherwise it's bad luck. You cannot spring clean once CNY starts, it's bad luck (you'll sweep the fortune of spring away). This extends from colours, to practices, to handphone and car plate numbers. Personally, I'm not that traditional, so some of my recollections of what means what might be inaccurate, but the general gist of it is there.
I was in Shanghai 2 weeks ago, and there they have statues of a fortune creature called Pixiu - you're allowed to touch it anywhere except for it's teeth because the teeth will "eat" your fortune. Fortune and wealth is very deeply embedded in Chinese culture, so it'd be wise not to underestimate it.
I don't know about rural China, but I doubt people wear that at funerals any more. White elements in dress are certainly not forbidden, but wearing predominantly white during CNY is as I've mentioned earlier considered back luck.
Of course, that being said this is all for some virtual event in an online game. I don't think people are going to be lynched if they submit white coloured cosmetics.
Link on image.
also, I love the white dongs flying out from her waist. A+ would dong again
but seriously, you got my upvotes. Easily my favorite Lina yet.
hahaha, raise your dongers in hype for this awesome lina!
Link on the image.
beautifully made, but I'm scared now
Thought rather than scary I find it borderline hilarious XD
and along those lines: This looks fucking awesome! turned out even better than I expected.
Credits to :
Robo for the idea + concept + loading screen
AbyssFX for the custom claw animations
Link on the first image