Glad I could help willy...
Just a concept, a bit off the wall. I sorta wanted to go more in the direction of the classic "big bad wolf" dressed as a grandmother who surprise their prey than a stylized dota vibe. I know he's a bear, not a wolf, but I think it still sorta works. In the case of Ursa, he'd be defending his cubs rather than preying on innocent little girls, hence the milk bottles.
If i decide to move forward with this concept i'll probably create a couple weapons for 'em, rolling pin and a frying pan with a naturalistic vibe to 'em, should be fun and some good zbrush excersize which i really need.
Any input is greatly appreciated. Is it too deviant from the dota lore? Should I push the original aesthetic of Ursa with more leather and tribal aesthetics? Should I ditch this idea alltogether and go for something a bit more senseible?
It's interesting to try to make art for this community, they have incredibly discerning tastes and they're not afraid to voice them. I'm trying not to think about what the naysayers would say and just make what i would personally buy from the store. Ursa's long been considered the ultimate "pubstomper" and i couldn't think of anything more entertaining to own noobs with than a beer dressed up like Mrs Doubtfire.
I would say go for something more sensible Crazy. It seems that for Dota Valve are looking for items that expand the lore of the heroes more than silly items like in TF2. While the Alpine set for Ursa is a bit silly right now I guess they thought it fit because he's supposedly from the alpine. Plus people are flaming the shit out of that alpine Ursa set on the comments page. Imagine how Ursa in grandmother's clothes would go down.
I've been trying to make the models work within maya (2011 atm).
Importing meshes and animations works but I can't seem to combine them into one file.
As soon as I import a new mesh it starts a whole new file, thus removing the previous imported mesh.
Is there anyone that has managed to make this work and how?
Thanks in advance.
I've been trying to make the models work within maya (2011 atm).
Importing meshes and animations works but I can't seem to combine them into one file.
As soon as I import a new mesh it starts a whole new file, thus removing the previous imported mesh.
Is there anyone that has managed to make this work and how?
Thanks in advance.
If its the same as max, you can use the merge function, I think if you hover over the import you'll get that option. You can also import multiple things using a batchloader maxscript... but then that's for max too =/ dunno about maya.
Alright, I'm having some issues and I guess the best thing to do here is explain the full process I used, from start to finish. Here we go:
Using the process outlined by CyborgMatt on his blog, I managed to successfully load the Dota 2 heroes into the Counter Strike: GO SDK. That part of the process was fairly straightforward, so a massive thank you to CyborgMatt for that
I then used StudioCompiler, as explained by Comfy Blanket in this thread, to decompile the model of the hero (In this case, Dazzle) which I wanted to work on. StudioCompiler was a complete nightmare and crashed repeatedly until it finally just started randomly working. Voodoo.
To then bring that decompiled SMD into Maya I got the 4.5 directory from steamapps/****/sourceSDK/maya/ and copied the scripts over to the Documents/Maya/2012-x64/ directory. These scripts were then edited using the instructions here: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Modifying_a_Source_Model_in_Maya
I'm now at a stage where I have the model loaded up in maya, but there are no textures. It's rigged and skinned, so that's fine, but it's all one big object as oppose to the model that Comfy Blanket showed, which was broken up into different parts.
i found out the studiocompiler only crashed when i tried to different output path than the default one (My Documents). So i stopped trying to fix it and just copied the new files from My Documents into a new folder afterwards, no problems since.
The textures are in the materials/models/heroes folder. In the studiocompiler, at the very top, you need to set the sdk path to the folder the vtf2tga.exe is in (steam/.../alien swarm/bin or whatever sdk you are using). then again use the studiocompiler to convert the textures
Got them working! Boom! Thanks To CrazyFingers for that, went back and reread his post. Yeah, browsing for the right directory is what messes everything up, simply pasting in the path works fine. Thanks as well, Letix!
Somewhere I had seen Tidehunter with a killer whale skin, but in DOTA2's customize hero screen, I haven't seen anything about selecting a different skin. Does anyone know if this is possible or will everything submitted through the workshop need to additional objects "bolted on" to the heroes?
@Boosh, I see absolutely no reason why Valve wouldn't accept plain texture reskins - so long as the character is still recognizable and the quality is there, it should be fine to submit re-textures. I think the reason we're seeing primarily 'bolted-on' items is because that's what people are most familiar making, coming from TF2 where touching the characters' textures is a no-no.
Does anyone in the beta have extra invites? I'd really like to try my hand at this, I got started with making "skins" for Quake about 16 years ago but kinda stopped modding around Quake 2. Maybe I could share some advice.
I'm still not sure if these models are supposed to be decompiled as one object. It seems like some heroes can be imported with specific armour as separate objects which you can remove or replace, whereas other (Like Dazzle, for example) are one whole object and can't be tinkered with. I was hoping to remove his kilt and model him some beach shorts, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen
Yar hope the folks at Valve will make a style guideline for Dota2 like they did for TF2. So we know what the rules are and what we can change or what we should not touch.
guys this will sound a little bit Offtopic but do you know how does Valve manage the payment system with an item contributed by 2 or more people?
When you put the item on the workshop, you specify who was involved with it and what percent of the sales they get. You only have this one chance to specify these details so be sure they're right. Then if it's put in game they'll split the sales between those people.
@Zipfinator thx for the answer that will help me in my project @Hawt Nice concept and nice models, also i think it really fits the antimage lore - world GL!!
What really inspires me to make models for Dota more than for TF2 is the fact that they will be in accordance with the lore of the Hero thus we can really have a potential impact in the Dota World
What software are you using to create new itens?
I've got lots of ideas for new itens, and I can't wait to work on it
but I'm having some troubles, I've tried converting the .smd meshfile to .obj using milkshape for that, and then openning it with Mudbox, but occurs some errors and the mesh came with some glitches and I can't add others subdivision levels =S
Small world, whenever i search around for 3d art stuff on google it always ends up just sending me back here...
Got everything more or less set up to start on some ursa items thanks to you guys !
@neozerahan just got the texture export workin' a second ago. They're found here in the dota export directory:
root\materials\models\heroes\(pick desired hero)
Then you have to install an SDK for Hammer, you can do this under tools, where "games" usually is on steam. I used the Alien Swarm SDK. Then you go into the cannonfodder and set your configure button so it points at the bin folder for alienswarm.
Quick edit: Now that i have this all set up if anyone has a request for a quick OBJ and diffuse export of a specific hero just lemme know, it's not too hard to churn out.
Please help me im very new to this I. If I want convert my Textrue i cant because its *:VTX but in the tool i need VTF/VMt
Btw Thanks the others i decompild in the same place then it works
What software are you using to create new items?
I've got lots of ideas for new items, and I can't wait to work on it
but I'm having some troubles, I've tried converting the .smd meshfile to .obj using milkshape for that, and then opening it with Mudbox, but occurs some errors and the mesh came with some glitches and I can't add others subdivision levels =S
You may have to copy+paste the paths into studiomdl compiler, if you brows and hit the button it crashed for me but worked with the ctrl c ctrl v
if anyone has a extra key a i wanted to make a set with a friend of mine so if you would have one spare msg me ^^ or ad me on steam: purpleneedle yours sincerely terry1337
Yo guys, I was making this fisherman set for Tide since his stuff seems pretty open right now.
Was wondering if you had any advice on how to make the boat oar a bit more interesting, I'm pretty happy with the hat but I'm open to anything.
Was also wondering if anyone would want to team up and help me rig them, I can decompile the files fine now but no matter what I do I can't attach the models to the bones and get them back to .mdl.
I don't think we have to worry about rigging our items for Dota2. They've changed some stuff with the animation system and I think they'd rather just handle it themselves than have us do it like we did for TF2. Nearly all of the screenshots of the items currently in game on the workshop are from Max or Maya so it leads me to believe that they didn't rig and compile them. I e-mailed Jeep at valve some questions about submitting to Dota2 but he hasn't answered them yet. Hopefully he'll reply sometime soon and we can be sure or one of the contributors who has stuff in game can tell us.
The game is in beta you can't buy it yet - unless there's some hidden purchase button. Pulling up DOTA2 on Steam only has the option to put your name onto a beta sign up list.
The DOTA fanbase community can be horrible people, don't let that leak into here.
Justin, there's an 'early access' bundle for something like 40 USD in the in-game Dota store, so it's possible to get someone to buy it and give you a pass.
I don't think we have to worry about rigging our items for Dota2. They've changed some stuff with the animation system and I think they'd rather just handle it themselves than have us do it like we did for TF2. Nearly all of the screenshots of the items currently in game on the workshop are from Max or Maya so it leads me to believe that they didn't rig and compile them. I e-mailed Jeep at valve some questions about submitting to Dota2 but he hasn't answered them yet. Hopefully he'll reply sometime soon and we can be sure or one of the contributors who has stuff in game can tell us.
So great to hear that!!! Does it mean that if I model a courier, they will animate it? and also compile it. My rigging and animating knowledge is pretty shitty ( not for so long). Please Zip make us know when you receive that e-mail it would be of great help.:)
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Just a concept, a bit off the wall. I sorta wanted to go more in the direction of the classic "big bad wolf" dressed as a grandmother who surprise their prey than a stylized dota vibe. I know he's a bear, not a wolf, but I think it still sorta works. In the case of Ursa, he'd be defending his cubs rather than preying on innocent little girls, hence the milk bottles.
If i decide to move forward with this concept i'll probably create a couple weapons for 'em, rolling pin and a frying pan with a naturalistic vibe to 'em, should be fun and some good zbrush excersize which i really need.
Any input is greatly appreciated. Is it too deviant from the dota lore? Should I push the original aesthetic of Ursa with more leather and tribal aesthetics? Should I ditch this idea alltogether and go for something a bit more senseible?
It's interesting to try to make art for this community, they have incredibly discerning tastes and they're not afraid to voice them. I'm trying not to think about what the naysayers would say and just make what i would personally buy from the store. Ursa's long been considered the ultimate "pubstomper" and i couldn't think of anything more entertaining to own noobs with than a beer dressed up like Mrs Doubtfire.
I've been trying to make the models work within maya (2011 atm).
Importing meshes and animations works but I can't seem to combine them into one file.
As soon as I import a new mesh it starts a whole new file, thus removing the previous imported mesh.
Is there anyone that has managed to make this work and how?
Thanks in advance.
If its the same as max, you can use the merge function, I think if you hover over the import you'll get that option. You can also import multiple things using a batchloader maxscript... but then that's for max too =/ dunno about maya.
I can model pretty good and texture.
contact me
Using the process outlined by CyborgMatt on his blog, I managed to successfully load the Dota 2 heroes into the Counter Strike: GO SDK. That part of the process was fairly straightforward, so a massive thank you to CyborgMatt for that
I then used StudioCompiler, as explained by Comfy Blanket in this thread, to decompile the model of the hero (In this case, Dazzle) which I wanted to work on. StudioCompiler was a complete nightmare and crashed repeatedly until it finally just started randomly working. Voodoo.
To then bring that decompiled SMD into Maya I got the 4.5 directory from steamapps/****/sourceSDK/maya/ and copied the scripts over to the Documents/Maya/2012-x64/ directory. These scripts were then edited using the instructions here: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Modifying_a_Source_Model_in_Maya
I'm now at a stage where I have the model loaded up in maya, but there are no textures. It's rigged and skinned, so that's fine, but it's all one big object as oppose to the model that Comfy Blanket showed, which was broken up into different parts.
So... where did I go wrong?
The textures are in the materials/models/heroes folder. In the studiocompiler, at the very top, you need to set the sdk path to the folder the vtf2tga.exe is in (steam/.../alien swarm/bin or whatever sdk you are using). then again use the studiocompiler to convert the textures
advice welcome
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=75066125
Could someone decompile puck for me?
All Riki really wears is that tunic so it wouldn't be too hard to model new clothes or armor on top of that.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1451094/Dazzle%2BNecro.rar
Puck + necrolyte as objs.
Supersandvich I tried exporting puck for ya but got a crash as well
but somehow i can´t get my model compiled. anyway gonna finish this up tomorrow.
When you put the item on the workshop, you specify who was involved with it and what percent of the sales they get. You only have this one chance to specify these details so be sure they're right. Then if it's put in game they'll split the sales between those people.
@Zipfinator thx for the answer
@Hawt Nice concept and nice models, also i think it really fits the antimage lore - world GL!!
What really inspires me to make models for Dota more than for TF2 is the fact that they will be in accordance with the lore of the Hero thus we can really have a potential impact in the Dota World
I've got a key or two to spare, PM me.
Keys have been given away (only had a couple).
I've got lots of ideas for new itens, and I can't wait to work on it
but I'm having some troubles, I've tried converting the .smd meshfile to .obj using milkshape for that, and then openning it with Mudbox, but occurs some errors and the mesh came with some glitches and I can't add others subdivision levels =S
Please help I cant decompile or I'm to dumb :S
What did I wrong ?
Watch this please:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSmDkt29rYQ&feature=youtu.be
Would said person mind making a Outworld Destroyer OBJ and sending it my way?
Thanks.
I tried decompiling but my 3DS Max ate a weiner when I tried importing the SMD/using the SMD plug-in :c
Thats the noise I just made!
Thanks a lot Crazyfingers.
Is it a lot of work to get the diffuse texture?
Thanks again!
Please help me im very new to this I. If I want convert my Textrue i cant because its *:VTX but in the tool i need VTF/VMt
Btw Thanks the others i decompild in the same place then it works
I don't know.
Click the image and stuff.
You may have to copy+paste the paths into studiomdl compiler, if you brows and hit the button it crashed for me but worked with the ctrl c ctrl v
I tried that and it worked, in parts, because now the problem is to import texture, but i'll try a couple of things here, and it will work. thx
this is not the betakey-request thread...
on a sidenote:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=75276526&tscn=1339081596
Was wondering if you had any advice on how to make the boat oar a bit more interesting, I'm pretty happy with the hat but I'm open to anything.
Was also wondering if anyone would want to team up and help me rig them, I can decompile the files fine now but no matter what I do I can't attach the models to the bones and get them back to .mdl.
The game is in beta you can't buy it yet - unless there's some hidden purchase button. Pulling up DOTA2 on Steam only has the option to put your name onto a beta sign up list.
The DOTA fanbase community can be horrible people, don't let that leak into here.
http://www.dota2.com/store/itemdetails/57939587?appid=570
Edit: Ninja'd by Zip.
So great to hear that!!! Does it mean that if I model a courier, they will animate it? and also compile it. My rigging and animating knowledge is pretty shitty ( not for so long). Please Zip make us know when you receive that e-mail it would be of great help.:)