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Re: AI Art, Good or Bad? A (hopefully) nuanced take on the subject.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/12/china-bans-ai-generated-media-without-watermarks/?fbclid=IwAR06CkmwG03pDQcXrnfSl5CQV6QDTLsA28vgO3vmkcXSCdHFHfTbBuqTF6U

impossible to regulate huh. this will likely move the hands of many providers and websites to enforce this.

Neox

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Re: Is there a protest going on right now at Artstation?

It's a nightmare for recruiting since now you have to distinguish between AI art and human art and not all of it is labeled.

I do like the fact that it's disrupted the trending algorithm since I never liked that aspect of Artstation.

That said AI to me really counts as spam filling what ought to be a professional space, so unless hiring catches up with recruiting prompt artists, all the AI garbage ought to have its own place elsewhere.

NikhilR

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Re: SOLVED 3ds Max - Duplicate Layer with the same content inside

If I understand you correctly, this is pretty easy with script. The code below works on a viewport selection not on a Layer Explorer selection. It just clones all the object then puts them in new layers.

A built in way would be to merge the max file into itself and turn off "Match Layers", but that option isn't doing anything for me. *shrugs*

(
	--//SUFFIX TO ADD TO NEW LAYERS
	suffix = "_LP"
	
	--//FUNCTION TO GET OR CREATE A LAYER FROM A NAME
	fn getOrCreateLayerFromName layerName =
	(
		newLayer = layermanager.getLayerFromName layerName
		
		if newLayer == undefined do
		(
			newLayer = layermanager.newLayerFromName layerName
		)
		
		newLayer
	)
	
	--//GET THE CURRENT SELECTION
	selObjs = getCurrentSelection()
	
	--//CLONE THE NODES
	maxOps.cloneNodes selObjs cloneType:#copy actualNodeList:selObjs newNodes:&newObjs
	
	--//ITERATE THE SELECTION TO ORGANIZE THE NEW NODES INTO NEW LAYERS
	for o = 1 to selObjs.count do
	(
		--//CREATE THE LAYER IF NEEDED
		oldLayer = selObjs[o].layer
		
		newLayer = getOrCreateLayerFromName (oldLayer.name + suffix)
		
		--//ADD THE CLONED OBJECT TO THE NEW LAYER
		newLayer.addNode newObjs[o]
		
		--//CHECK THE PARENT OF THE OLD LAYER
		pLayer = oldLayer.getParent()
		
		if pLayer != undefined do
		(
			newParent = getOrCreateLayerFromName (pLayer.name + suffix)
			newLayer.setParent newParent
		)
	)
	
	select newObjs
)

monster

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Re: What Are You Working On? (3D) 2022

Currently working with this character. Guys i need an advice. Is this looking like organic and fleshy or it is more like a rubber duck?

Arkideit

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Re: AI Art, Good or Bad? A (hopefully) nuanced take on the subject.

why would they be useless? it doesnt even have to be a human readable watermark. machines are perfect at hiding information in some off pixels here and there. or even with visible watermarks, it doesnt have to be crossing the entire image.

if its not murder, how about a seatbelt? man have people been upset when their freedom was taken to drive a car without.

or piors example in france, where you have to tell that a picture was manipulated and is in fact not a real photo.

that is very very close.

Neox

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Re: AI Art, Good or Bad? A (hopefully) nuanced take on the subject.

https://polycount.com/discussion/comment/2775736#Comment_2775736

I actually think watermarks is a pretty good idea. It doesn't fringe on censorship or denial of services. of course, people can simply not use them or remove them, the same way people do now. but saying it will help nothing is going too far I think.

Gun laws, copyrights, banning of drugs, murder being illegal, etc definitely work. Of course not to 100%, but to a reasonable point that doing nothing would be far worse.

lotet

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Re: AI Art, Good or Bad? A (hopefully) nuanced take on the subject.

that's fair, but laws are an ever changing construct, they get adjusted, they get adapted.

most of the times too slow.

but law is nothing that is written in stone and can never be touched, often enough they get changed in the favor of the people with the big money, so yeah there is always a risk that this goes sideways.

Neox

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Re: AI Art, Good or Bad? A (hopefully) nuanced take on the subject.

https://polycount.com/discussion/comment/2775726#Comment_2775726

there is no law, does not mean there can not be one? there is no law that says ai art has to get marked as such, until there is.

and yes lawsuits between artists and artists or artists and companies exist, plagiarism is a thing.

Neox

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Re: AI Art, Good or Bad? A (hopefully) nuanced take on the subject.

I think the one thing that is missing from the people thinking only in "tech terms" is the fact that just because something is now possible to do, doesn't mean that it is "too late to stop it" and that it is the new normal. For instance in France there is a law from 2017 that stipulates that a photograph of a person used in advertising needs to have a written mention that it has been touched up if it was. The fact that liquify and the clone brush exist does not matter - the law is simply there to enforce the will of the people to not get unknowingly subjected to touched up photos without knowing about it. Similarly, just because research could be made on human cloning, doesn't mean that it can go unregulated. And so on.

Of course everyone can try to bypass the law for whatever reason, and of course no law is perfect and is subject to interpretations. But there is no need for some crazy bLocKcHaIn or wEbThReE tech to authenticate if a picture as not being photoshopped to erase fat rolls - the law just needs to exist, and then if gets violated then it can lead to an investigation.

pior

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Re: AI Art, Good or Bad? A (hopefully) nuanced take on the subject.

i am not trying to get rid of this competitor, as i know i can not.

I do what i always do. make nice art and hope it will all be good, that there will be people who we work with who value art done by hand and that there will be people who will not. there are already clients who we do not work with for various reasons, thats fine.

i have no hurt feelings, maybe because the damn database doesn't have my work in it!!!!111 ;)

i do think there is a lot of value in AI stuff, there are people who would have NEVER commisioned to an artist, who have great ideas (not just ideaguys getting nothing done ever besides lots of talking) and now have the possibility to tell their stories. Use the tool by all means, as an artist or studio, train it yourself, but doing it on the backs of thousands who have not even been ask, is unethical at the least.

you already admitted that there are ethical reasons why it's not in a great state, so why refuse to make it more ethical?

Neox

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