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Re: AI Usage in Indie Games

Games operate with two currencies; dollars and reputation.

An indie company will start with a high amount of reputation in their wallet due to being an underdog, but a low amount of dollars. Using AI will 100% damage an indie studio's reputation to the point where it negates the reputation boost of being an underdog. There are negative reviews on the game at my work purely because we used AI, despite my warnings

zetheros

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Re: Greentooth Sightings in Videogames

Psychonauts 2 (I see Sacboi posted, but here it is again. I am late af with my game backlog)

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5021068/uploads/editor/wv/kn6xmtaqglk5.jpg

Lamont

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Re: AI Usage in Indie Games

Until it becomes impossible to avoid, if I see a game that was made with AI, I'm not going to buy it. Not only for the basic unethical, planet-fucking nature of the tech, but also....Why should I pay to play a game you couldn't even be bothered to pay to make?

One of the big benefits of indie games, supposedly, is that they're more creative than big projects, take more risks, make things more unique because they're less corporate, less controlled than in big studios. If you're going to use AI, you've basically taken all that away, because it's only really good for shitting out generic slop; it won't make anything risky, anything original, anything actually new. It's not creative.

Using AI under the excuse of "it's impossible to make X on an indie budget otherwise" pisses me off. The sometimes shitty reality is you have to scope to what you can do, and I'd still rather that than indies have a greater scope because they can increase their possibilities by having AI crap a load of it out. Not to mention, going back one step, those limits are often what leads to the reputation of indie games as more creative in the first place; their greater limits force them to innovate and find clever ways to get the most out of what they can create.

AI art has tells, but if you're using it as the concepting stage, that's probably going to be impossible to see in the final product if you don't disclose it, if you're trying to use it as a basis and not just go straight from there. But that'll still churn out generic slop in all probability, because your concepts are going to be generic slop. How can you make something interesting if the very foundations aren't interesting?

I wouldn't trust documentation to an AI. It can't reliably tell me that 2+2 is 4.

Rima

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Re: AI Usage in Indie Games

At the end of the day, what matters is what the consumers think of it with their wallet. Dont forget that since Artists "know how the sausage is made" they have more emotional responses to AI and their useage ( their validity isnt the point on my post btw ). My friend group doesnt care if a game uses AI or not, all they want is to enjoy their games at the end of a day and couldnt care less about Anti-AI activism. And the market shows that sadly, the consumer doesnt care. At the end of the day we only can individually make a stance like Rima does. To me, i only play older videogames so yeah xD

Joao Sapiro

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[FINISHED] Precolumbian Ceramic

Hey all! This is a small prop I did during these last two weeks of the year

hope you like it!

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/DLDNNR

panicpancho

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Re: Losing Your Artistic Voice to Convenient Asset Packs

As a contrarian opinion, one role I had was as a Worldbuilder, a Level Artist.

This meant arranging other artists’ assets into new terrains, creating locales and points of interest, plus overall lighting and mood.

https://ericchadwick.com/img/mmo_worldbuilding.html

This is pretty similar to using asset packs, and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I had a ton of artistic freedom and leeway, to make the most impactful and beautiful content possible with the open-world in-house tech.

Anyhow, as explained by others, there are many ways to achieve artistic nirvana in games. Don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it!