Modular Dungeon Set
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ugh! I guess I am done. Still figuring out how I want to display my textures... but I figured I would go ahead and get this up here. This was some work I did for 3docean. You can go and buy this over there. Here is a link to my collection.
I hope you guys like this. I learned a lot. First hand painted texture attempt as well as my first modular attempt. I would do it differently the next time around.
And for those of you asking about my texture.... You can find them on my very WIP portfolio website.
jeremiahbigley.com
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I hope you guys like this. I learned a lot. First hand painted texture attempt as well as my first modular attempt. I would do it differently the next time around.
And for those of you asking about my texture.... You can find them on my very WIP portfolio website.
jeremiahbigley.com
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I like how you used normals even though you've gone for that hand painted look. I didn't think people used normals for that style too often.
I think renders is too contrast...I coundn't see all the details u have on your textures. It will be great if u show some texture pages...
Awesome work !!!!
I'm particularly interested to see how you did the 'dead end' sections. Does that use one texture, or does it use multiple material IDs?
I will see about creating some texture sheets.
And glad you like it otherwise guys
PogoP - The dead end texture was on a 2048 x 2048 and a 1024 x 1024 The whole piece was mirrored. The wood piece in back was on the 1024 and the rest was on the 2048.
As for polycount I was particularly looking at games people are playing just recently... for example Diablo 3. I think a lot of their dungeon's/environments are about the same if not higher in polycount, And mine don't even have 30+ monsters on screen simultaneously. lol So I disagree that they are too highpoly. I think it is justifiable.
http://ninjalite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/diablo-3-screenshot4.jpg
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/original/2009/06/ss77-hires.jpg
http://www.beefjack.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/diablo-3.jpg
I also wouldn't have made the corner pieces different sizes. Due to the concave corner being half of what the rest of the pieces were... I had to create a special piece to fill in small gaps here and there when creating the level.
I also don't know if I would have done the "teeth" that connect each piece. It helps with seams... but it ups the polycount. And made it to where I couldn't mirror pieces.
This project was also a real eye opener to what you could do without highpoly. Next time I might not have even sculpted anything. I ended up sculpting because I was not comfortable with my handpainting skills to be able to start from scratch.
Glad you like it though
I only wish that you had done more angled pieces. At the moment, the layout has that, square,"modular" feel to it.
Thanks for the elaborate answer jeremiah. That gives some more insight. Nice to work from sculpt to handpaint. I am still at that point btw I guess ... I fear the hand paint. Never gave it a real serious try though. I hope this sells well!
(looking forward to MDS expansion set 1 !!)
I see this being used for an awesomely stylized FPS-style dungeon crawler, less of a Diablo isometric game. A fly through video would be awesome.
you could use something like bump offset in UE3... which lets you use two textures that move at a different pace as you pass by, giving you the feeling its modelling work
But at least you tried it and saw the benefits and mistakes. Valuable information and learning!
Will the player have the option to zoom in down to ground level? thats the only which I think they could appreciate the detail you put into this. But regardless, Good job. I wanna play Guantlet :shifty:
Very nice work Jeremiah. Quite inspiring
Looks sweet as hell man!
I was curious, so I went over to 3D Ocean to see what the deal is there...I was a bit dismayed to see how poorly stuff seems to sell. Not yours in particular, but assets in general. There seems to be only one guy there who's making good money, and thats from a massive collection of HDR light probes. I calculated based on his sales, the prices for the items, the total value of his efforts there is around $50,000...minus whatever cut 3D Ocean takes. Everybody else it seems are lucky to walk away with a couple hundred bucks spread out over months.
it looks like you have some great quads but choose to have most everything in tris
As far as the longer wall piece goes...
How did you manage the HP?
Was each brick assembled in max?
How many poly's per brick?
And for the circular pillar piece. Did you bend the bricks in max?
Thanks for your help!
Chris
teaandcigarettes - I really wish I had been given more time to do angled pieces. I had to meet a dead line and was only required to create a certain number of pieces. So anything extra was at my own expense. I do agree though that everything is a bit too square feeling. Though just as slave_one was saying... if it actually sells decently I might consider doing an expansion.
slave_one - Yeah I hope so too.
tinokun - Thanks!
Cody - Really glad you like it and thank you for the compliments! You know it is funny that you mention the dungeon crawler thing because right after I put this up on 3docean I was contacted by someone looking to pay me to work for him... to create more pieces for a dungeon crawler. lol Don't know if I would have time for a fly through though.
yodude87 - it was modeled. So in game it would have a collision mesh that would allow the player to walk over it. You can see into it a little. Therefore you get that little bit of parallaxing going on.
Anuxinamoon - yeah the normal map seam was one of the main things I was worried about. I am pretty sure I wouldn't do that the next time. lol
Robat - lol! thank you!
n88tr - Dang man... you wanted to know so bad that you had to post twice asking me? Well Triangles become relevant once taking something into a game... and it doesn't seem based off of your website that you have ever taken anything all the way through the lowpoly process. In game triangles display and render fast. So game engines were built on this idea. So when we make lowpoly assets it doesn't matter if triangulated as in a game engine, quads don't exist. So when you export your model to a game engine it converts everything into triangles. So what you are seeing is a wireframe shot from the Marmoset Toolbag. And displaying your lowpoly model as triangles can also show people that you are paying attention to which direction you are turning your tris. Which is something that some people tend to ignore.
brandoom - You know I have been called a lot of things but I don't think people call me inspiring. lol Glad you think so man
Nerf Bat Ninja - well... twice in a row. lol Thanks man!
Ani -
Stinger88 - Never played... hmmm. >.> Glad you like it though
Ferg - Wow Thank you man! You have really nice work as well
POFFINGTON - lol Well I don't know if there is going to be anymore dungeon stuff coming... but I will be updating my WIP thread with a new project very soon. SHAMELESS PLUG
BadgerBaiter - I think I am more of a fan of the floors
Virtuosic - No. lol
GCMP - I think this is as far as I am taking it unless it really sells on 3docean then I might do an expansion of some sort.... Because I really wanted to do stairs.
hollywood-north - I wouldn't suggest it... it has a shitty story. lol Glad you like it
ScoobyDoofus - well... I think what it comes down to is your target audience. Who comes to this site? Well... probably a lot of people doing architecture. Which is why you have an abundance in things like highpoly furniture and HDRs... Yeah I think it is pretty amazing what that HDR guy is making and he has his life set. Though the reason this dungeon project was done was to widen their target audience. I got on 3docean figuring I could make a little bit of extra cash (mainly to support my energy drink addiction
Also consider... how many people really need a modular dungeon set? lol it is really specific. I think it really is more of a want if people were to buy it. My treasure chest has actually sold the most out of all the of my other pieces... go figure.
And! 3docean is still a relatively new site. It has only been around since late 2008. I hope to build up a lot of items on there so at some point I am making a small paycheck every month.
cholden - I wish you would lol... it would help me with my expenses
Samfisher84 - Thanks
deceiver - Glad I could bring some joy to your morning? lol
MeintevdS - You know there is a guy contacting me about some work to make a game with it... but I don't think it would be what you would have in mind. It would be something educational lol.
n88tr - See previous response to you.
synergy11 - Well as for the "longer wall piece" it was a bunch of smaller wall chunks. The bricks were sculpted in Zbrush then decimated down and taken into 3ds max. I then arranged them in there. The Pillar was started from a cylinder. I detached each face and shelled it, then took them into Zbrush for sculpting on. Hope that helps :O
I would go a far way too play something with a dungeon like this ^^
I just had to upgrade to a Pro account on Photobucket because I used up all my bandwidth which was supposed to bring back the pictures immediately... but they are still not there. I am looking into the issue and I am sorry if you guys can't see the pictures.
As a set though it seems to work really well and that Diablo style is just so cool to play with. Great work , keep having fun
Overall great work though.
keep it up!
Kevin Johnstone -
OtrickP -
fiveways - Thanks man! I am really glad you like it!
TheMadArtist - Thanks! I will try to keep showing quality work
Dragan - Glad you are digging it! I had told ppl on here that I was going to try and get some maps up, but time has really been tight lately and I am already cranking on my next project.
sgtmus - lol thanks! well I just have been working my butt off for a really long time. Definitely not something that just happened. Just keep at it! There are tons of people that I hope to be as good as some day... so I just keep working.
G3L - Yeah... it something that was kinda experimental for me, not saying it hasn't been done, I have just never done anything like it. This being the first time around I think it has a long way to go to be perfected. If you want to see someone who did a really amazing job of this style... Check THIS out. In any case man, glad you like it!
Some of your renders have outlines, did you test it with some kind of cel/npr shaders ?