Monthly Environment Art Challenge - May & June 2017 (48)

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  • imran.ahmed
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    Hi ,I´m starting with hand-painted prop challenge.
    First  wip...
  • Klawd
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    Thanks @kadeschui!

    @Caiterade You don't have plans to texture your book? :( You could take this chance to learn how to if that's the problem. Or you could find someone else to do it and make this a two-person effort (I don't think there are rules against it) :)
  • HomeGrownHeroz
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    @Klawd your scenes perspective is spot on!. How did you manage to match the concept so well? I've had trouble matching perspectives from concept art. I've found it especially tedious at times when matching it in Maya and then also getting everything aligned in Unreal for example.
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    Klawd said:
    Thanks @kadeschui!

    @Caiterade You don't have plans to texture your book? :( You could take this chance to learn how to if that's the problem. Or you could find someone else to do it and make this a two-person effort (I don't think there are rules against it) :)
    Oh no! I totally will! 
  • Klawd
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    @Caiterade Great! I misunderstood, I guess you mean't that you are not looking forward to it! But don't worry I'm sure you'll do great! :)

    @HomeGrownHeroz You need to match the camera as best as you can (position, focal length, angle). I did this manually till now, and I discovered that with your eyes alone you can go that far. On @Umbrafoxus hint, in this thread, I learned of the existence of camera matching (Modo has it for example). You give it the image in input, then you manually overlay four lines on it (two left-right and two for the depth) in order for the algorithm to calculate the two-point perspective of the image, and voilà you have a perfectly matching camera. Then you have to overlay your models as best as you can, you put some you think are in the best position to build upon and go from there. This last step is not as easy as I imagined, but if you can manage then the results speak for themselves.
    For example, in my first updates I didn't use the camera matcher, and after learning about it I tweaked my models to fit the new camera, and discovered I had made the room a little bit shorter in height, and a bit shorter in depth than it actually is. Also I had the benches position slightly wrong. I had wrongly assumed they were mirrored on the center but instead they are moved arbitrarily. Same thing for the center piece (as someone suspected earlier), it is a few centimeteres moved on the right.
  • Gobliness
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    Thought I'd jump into this even though it is a bit late in the month. Next I'll get the bookmarks in and then figure out how I really want to tackle the wood and moss. It's awesome that most people were loving the same concept to model off of, can't wait to see everyone's stuff! :smiley:
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    I've been sick so i took a break the past few days. I barely made any progress lol. But im hunkering down! Tonight i'm going ham.  

    Klawd said:
    @Caiterade Great! I misunderstood, I guess you mean't that you are not looking forward to it! But don't worry I'm sure you'll do great! :)

    @HomeGrownHeroz You need to match the camera as best as you can (position, focal length, angle). I did this manually till now, and I discovered that with your eyes alone you can go that far. On @Umbrafoxus hint, in this thread, I learned of the existence of camera matching (Modo has it for example). You give it the image in input, then you manually overlay four lines on it (two left-right and two for the depth) in order for the algorithm to calculate the two-point perspective of the image, and voilà you have a perfectly matching camera. Then you have to overlay your models as best as you can, you put some you think are in the best position to build upon and go from there. This last step is not as easy as I imagined, but if you can manage then the results speak for themselves.
    For example, in my first updates I didn't use the camera matcher, and after learning about it I tweaked my models to fit the new camera, and discovered I had made the room a little bit shorter in height, and a bit shorter in depth than it actually is. Also I had the benches position slightly wrong. I had wrongly assumed they were mirrored on the center but instead they are moved arbitrarily. Same thing for the center piece (as someone suspected earlier), it is a few centimeteres moved on the right.
    Yeah. I procrastinate things i get worried about lol. 

    Gobliness said:

    Thought I'd jump into this even though it is a bit late in the month. Next I'll get the bookmarks in and then figure out how I really want to tackle the wood and moss. It's awesome that most people were loving the same concept to model off of, can't wait to see everyone's stuff! :smiley:
    Looks good! I'm worried you're committing too hard to one angle of view. The book is looking super long/rectangular. Fantasy spellbooks are usually pretty chunky.
  • Caiterade
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    Been trying to figure out how this leather strap would actually work as a keeper. The concept looks like the strap goes through a hole on the metal keeper, and the other strap feeds into the bottom. Sometimes it's hard for me to make a shape without drawing it out first so from the angle the best i could make out of the shape is this -



       
     
    If that helps you you're welcome to use it. I also figured that the back piece could be separated from the rest of the book, like a shell of treebark taken straight off the side of a tree so it still has it's cylinder shape.
  • harjm
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    Hi chosen to do the star citizen scene here is my blockout i started in 3DS max but have began to import into UE4 at the same time trying to get the scale of the scene right. 

    Still need to figure out the door might end up making my own design but keeping the colour scheme used in the concept. 



    Below is screen shot from 3DS Max 


    What do you guys think I still think the scale looks wrong at the moment seems to be a bit too big. 


  • MMGiles
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    Klawd said:
    It's already the 18th, damn! Finally got few days to work on it though. Today I managed to tweak and polish the scene a bit more. These next couple of days I'll start texturing and assemblying it all in ue4. Stay tuned, and keep up the great work you all!

    Comparison gif of my progress so far:

    Hi, I was wondering if you have any tips on how you managed to get the perfect perspective on the project as I'm having trouble doing so 
  • Gibby1995
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    Second Update on my scene, been slowly working on this over time. I adjusted some of the objects scale to better fit the scene. Trying to get the camera perspective is tough but I think I got it down better than my last post.
      
    Now my aim is to adjust some things like the door locks by raising them and then move to the Baking and Texturing stage of the project.  
  • MGHMahoney
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    Hey, this is my progress so far on the revolver. I'm not quite sure yet how I will make the golden ornaments on the handle and by the hammer, because the plan for the gun was to stay completly inside 3ds Max for the modeling part.
    Please let me know what you think :)


  • jariah
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    Hi guys i chose the star citizen scene here is my early blockout i started. I'm a bit late.but better late than never.

  • Caiterade
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    Did a bit more work on the front clasp. Added teh bookmarks. Im gonna attempt to hit the bark material today.
  • Klawd
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    MMGiles  I answered a similar question above.
  • harjm
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    Tweaked my scene a bit more and tried out another render in UE4


  • jnascimento
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    After a few days battling with the lighting, made something I liked. Still misses some cables, TV images, vases with plants and the sphere material needs some work. I know it's not equal to the image but, I could not walk around it like that, so I stretched things a bit. Any feedback is welcome.

    No post-processing

    Some crazy experiment with oversaturate colors and post-processing

  • IDCrisis0
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    Finished blocking out the scene today.

  • Gobliness
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    Caiterade said:
    Looks good! I'm worried you're committing too hard to one angle of view. The book is looking super long/rectangular. Fantasy spellbooks are usually pretty chunky.


    Thank you for the advice! I set up a camera and fixed all of the proportions to match closer to the reference. Ignore the blocked out moss too that's more for me than anything.

    Even went as far to re-do the clasp and went with a similar design to @Caiterade (which thanks again!) :D
    I was looking up reference of books that clasp though and they generally nail/stitch the  leather straps into the outside binding of the book and the clasp has a pin that works "somewhat" like a belt buckle. So I went closer to that design. Honestly I couldn't find anything close to a heavy piece of metal clasping like that in the center so it's up to interpretation really.
     
    The best reference I found for it was:





  • Lukitscherie
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    Well, I got an art test for a job and obviously I want to mainly work on that during the next days so... RIP book  : x

    Maybe I'll have time next month to finish it, or maybe I'll finish it later outside the challenge. Here's where I got, not a lot of changes since the last WIP:
    But still, I'm happy with the topology for the face : 3



  • Klawd
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    Just finished texturing a couple of models. i'm particularly happy with the central holographic piece and the ceiling. Everything else is still wip. I'm not happy with the lighting yet, but still, at the moment light is fully dynamic while I plan on going static in the end.

    Couple of progress pics and a video showing the ball in motion (sorry for the not so great quality):









  • Tobbo
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    Hey, this is my progress so far on the revolver. I'm not quite sure yet how I will make the golden ornaments on the handle and by the hammer, because the plan for the gun was to stay completly inside 3ds Max for the modeling part.
    Please let me know what you think :)


    Your edges are really tight. Loosen them up a bit and allow some nice bevel highlights. You will get a much better normal map bake too. 
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    sitting down now to knock out the wood. Slow progress, i don't really know what i'm doing. just doing dam standard and dynamesh with polish and pushing here and pulling there. Might be a nightmare to clean up but idk how else to really do it lol

    Tobbo said:
    Hey, this is my progress so far on the revolver. I'm not quite sure yet how I will make the golden ornaments on the handle and by the hammer, because the plan for the gun was to stay completly inside 3ds Max for the modeling part.
    Please let me know what you think :)

    Your edges are really tight. Loosen them up a bit and allow some nice bevel highlights. You will get a much better normal map bake too. 
    I second this!Lukitscherie said:
    Well, I got an art test for a job and obviously I want to mainly work on that during the next days so... RIP book  : x

    Maybe I'll have time next month to finish it, or maybe I'll finish it later outside the challenge. Here's where I got, not a lot of changes since the last WIP:
    But still, I'm happy with the topology for the face : 3

    That's a bummer, because you got off to a really cool start. I'd save it and come back to it later!

    Gobliness said:
    Caiterade said:
    Looks good! I'm worried you're committing too hard to one angle of view. The book is looking super long/rectangular. Fantasy spellbooks are usually pretty chunky.
    Thank you for the advice! I set up a camera and fixed all of the proportions to match closer to the reference. Ignore the blocked out moss too that's more for me than anything.
    Are you working in orthographic? Your book looks like it has no perspective on it or something.

    The spine of your book is pencil thin. Curve it, and make it chunkier! Remember it's made of wood. Thin wood like that would splinter.
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