[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCobNFbnPHQ&feature=channel_video_title"](part 1) old woman isz - YouTube[/ame] Real man did this. I dont know why he stopped tho. =\ There are 2 polycounters I know of, who actually make base mesh thoroughly before jumping in to zbrush. But I guess it got very easy for us thanks to…