Indy 4
Here we go. Saw it at a midnight screening, and might see it again today at a company screening. Though not necessarily because I thought it was great, more to clarify if I liked it or not.
I...don't know. I don't think I want to say too much until more folks see it :P
Whatch y'all think ?
I...don't know. I don't think I want to say too much until more folks see it :P
Whatch y'all think ?
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I was afraid that they were going to do more CGI and less on-set effects. Years later its probably way cheaper to do it on the computer
I liked it a lot except for the fucking swinging ape part and most of the ending.
and from everyone I've talked to.. they seem to agree. Why the fuck were these parts in the movie?
Grats, George, you've done it again.
Was great except aliens. WTF?! Indy has always had super natural and religious themes, whats with the uber lame ass sci-fi bullshit that's overexplained and lacks all mystery. Right up to the part where they just go straight out with stupid ass aliens and a giant ship it was good. Seriously, I liked everything but the aliens.
But then again I got tto see it for free on a studio outing!! So im bloody happy.
Yah, saw it last night. Left the theatre glad I'd seen it. Not the greatest indy film by far, but definitely worth watching.
Dude, the fridge scene was hilarious.
Oh yah, the rocket sled scene - some dude was explaining the historical importance of that setup to his girlfriend on the way out of the theater. :poly104:
Maybe they should call the next indy movie " Indiana Jones and the Meaning of life for all the butt hurt fans out there that can't enjoy a laugh and hate cg but work in an industry where they rely on the technology". I'm sure they could fit all that nicely onto a dvd cover.
There were parts of the movie that weren't exciting, but how many movies today are 100% great and packed full great entertainment the entire time?
http://gizmodo.com/393034/review-new-indys-most-deadly-trap-is-the-movie-itself
this alone makes me want to hunt down and torture lucas. Sounds like absolute unbelieveable crap from reading that review. fuck rotten tomatoes and their rating.
I refuse to watch this movie after hearing what adam said about the ending and gizmodo's review. I won't even watch a cam or screener of it.
:thumbup:
I think I would've liked it a bit better if it was just Random Summer Action Movie and I wasn't going in expecting Indiana Jones.
For some reason I loved the fridge scene, the whole
I felt stupid watching the movie during a good portion of it, but enjoyed the rest.
Except that kid. But his bluejeans had a nice cut.
Uh, yes he did.. He's credited with writing the story (in tandem with Jeff Nathanson). The screenplay was written by David Koepp.
Spoilers ahead. (I don't know how to black it out)
There was a semi-wide publicized fued between Lucas and Spielberg. Lucas wanted aliens, Spielberg didn't and what they got was this half-assed compromise of archaeological alien collectors.
I didn't mind the movie, the plot was a bit weak but for a blockbuster it had its moments. Some great hero shots and typical one-liners that are right out of every other Indy movie. I also liked the last 'hat scene' that pior talks about. It was set up to make you think they are going to do another. But it's a send off from the team to say "I doubt it everyone!".
lol, i love pior.
Also, Cate Blanchet is the most beautiful woman alive.
wait.. what?
lol..ok
lol
saw the movie today. and i liked it. i mean. yeah.. aliens.. but who cares. had its cool moments so 1 thumb up:)
You like men, don't you?
[edit] just watch the trailer and tell me she's not hot!
And that was 7 years ago!
Everything else was just fine.
Oh yeah. Mutt is a terrible name.
The Indy 4 director is the most powerful guy in Hollywood (and the man behind movies like Close Encounters and E.T.), but the film's problems are George Lucas's fault? Seriously, Spielberg is just as rich as Lucas and also has a couple Oscars on his wall - I don't see how George is making him do a sci-fi spin on Indy if he doesn't want to. I guess you either like the aliens idea or you don't, but it's not like the total pooch-screw of the Star Wars prequels. The film has some flat spots (I think those are the fault of Spielberg and the screenwriter), but the basic premise worked for me!
ALIENS!?!? FUCKING MONKIE MAN SWINGING FROM VINE TO VINE!?!? INDY HIDING IN A FRIDGE AND SURVIVING A NUCLEAR EXPLOSION!?! WTF George, lay off the motherfucking crackpipe. You already destroyed the Star Wars franchise, and you did it again with this movie.
I mean I know, there is some very weird stuff in the other movies. But nothing on this scale. This movie just has Lucas's greasy meat hooves all over it. Retire you fat bastard.
And stop destroying my childhood.
Only semi likable character is Oz. Everyone else is as flat as they possibly can be INCLUDING Dr. Jones. Plot is as linear as they come. Felt more like an amusement ride at a theme park than a movie. Bad guys? Um, what was their motivation again? I truly don't think they had any. One liners? I can't think of a single one that was memorable. Aliens? Seriously? And what about that 14th skull that the commies had? What was the whole point of that? None whatsoever.
Mostly shit.
No. It was just a bad film.
Indy films in order of Awesomsauce:
1. Last Crusade
2. Raiders
3.Temple of Doom
4. Crystal Skull.
The only thing Im 100% Sure of after seeing this film, is that Hellboy2 Is going to kick some serious ass.
This is the same order I've always put them in (the first three at least, have yet to see the new one). My pet theory is that the awesomeness of an Indy movie is directly proportional to the number of Nazis that are in it. Last Crusade has a butt load of Nazis, and it happens to be the best; Raiders has a fair amount of Nazis, and it's also pretty damn good; Temple of Doom.... few to no Nazis, hence not as good
theres a lot of finger pointing at george lucas in this thread. God knows why, he wasn't directing, it wasn't him who directed it as pedestrian and humourless and completely lacking in innocent vibrancy. Fucking spielberg. What is it, Indy, or Amistad? Move on : leave your joyous, innocent, non-cynical filmmaking past behind - you just can't do it any more.
As Vermilion said : Dont Blame Lucas. I mean, sure the man is retarded but Spielberg is a massive hippie, if anyone is to blame for all the hippie alien stuff its him. AI, anyone? The fantastic 4 indiana-family business tho, thats Lucas aaaall the way.
****Spoilers coming****
As I told my wife, I'm now viewing these movies as an adult and I find myself viewing even the originals differently. I loved them as a kid, and they are still great movies to me, but if I were to see them originally, at my current age, I would have only considered them mediocre also. So, what looked at how my kids enjoyed this new movie, since they are around the same ages that I saw the originals. They loved the movie. It won't be one of their favorite movies ever, but they really enjoyed it, and I think if I were that age still, I probably would have enjoyed it more also.
*** SPOILERS ***
One thing the old Indy movies always had was some kinda of secret society or cult - some mysterious guys would appear early in the movie and leave us wondering who they were, until later when it's revealed.
They did that in this movie top, but without the revelation or explanation! WTF.
So Indy and the kid (Mutt? Mud? Did I hear that right?) go to explore the conquistadors grave area. Three ninja guys with skull masks appear out of nowhere and jump around making weird noises and doing their kung-fu stuff. Pretty cool. Then Indy brandishes a gun and they ALL VANISH, NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN.
That seriously pissed me off. They had these cool guys who could have been so interesting, just appear for no reason then disappear just as quickly. Totally pointless.
They did the same with the tribe of warriors near the end. They all appear, breaking out of the stone skull hidey-holes, without explanation (are they meant to be undead? If not, do they rebuild their stone skull sleeping-places every night and have to burst out of them every time they need the bathroom?), then pursue the group for half a minute, get scared/reverential of the crystal skull, then all get shot and die. What the hell.
Two groups of potentially very interesting people, who appear for no reason and disappear just as fast. In the older Indy movies, they'd have had at least a cursory backstory and some sort of explanation of who they are and why they were there. We don't even get that.
In the end I felt that this Indy movie just lacked the overall "mystical" feeling of the last few. Sure, the adventures and high-jinks were all there, but the whole mystery and alien stuff felt very forced and heavy-handed to me.
The older movies all have these cool ancient traps and massive tomb-raider style caves and ancient buildings. The new movie had these as well but they felt tacked-on... giant cogs rolling across their way just before they left the final building, seemed like an afterthought when someone said "oh we need some huge moving stone things!".
The sand-spilling initial opening thing was cool.
Oh, the monkeys and tarzan scene. WTF?
The ants. Pulling a whole man into their burrow. WTF?
Harrison Ford's delivery was decidedly suspect in several places ( "I knew I could rely on you... my friend.") and generally didn't feel very energetic mostly.
Shia LaBouef actually surprised me by being much better than I expected. He didn't say an awful lot, but did pretty well overall.
A lot of the chase scenes were fun and well-paced. The stunts in general were nice.
Overall though I just felt a bit "meh" about the whole thing. It seemed like it turned into cheesy sci-fi rather than mystical adventuring, which is how the other movies still feel to me. I wouldn't have minded so much if they'd kept the alien stuff just down to hints and suggestions of another race, rather than bringing on the full-blown CGI E.T.-alike and the silver flying saucer (although that ending scene was cool!).
I still prefer the other 3 movies
aliens did not bother me, i liked that, i think maybe they over explained it.
I like over the top action, but sometimes movies go so far where i can not suspend disbelief.
fridge scene, swordfight on moving vehicles in a jungle scene, monkey vine highway scene,
those were the parts that just made my eyes roll