The Dark Knight
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Ok following up with other movie threads. I can't wait for this movie. If it's anything like the first one then it's gonna be amazing.
Seems like they have a pretty crazy viral campaign going as well and this week with comic con they really pushed it.
I don't have all the details or sites but here are a few. Feel free to add more and I'll edit this post to include them all.
Teaser Trailer
http://video.whysoserious.com/TDK_Teaser_HD_High_Yuu675D.mov
and the other links...
http://whysoserious.com/
http://ibelieveinharveydent.warnerbros.com/
New Pic of the Joker
Seems like they have a pretty crazy viral campaign going as well and this week with comic con they really pushed it.
I don't have all the details or sites but here are a few. Feel free to add more and I'll edit this post to include them all.
Teaser Trailer
http://video.whysoserious.com/TDK_Teaser_HD_High_Yuu675D.mov
and the other links...
http://whysoserious.com/
http://ibelieveinharveydent.warnerbros.com/
New Pic of the Joker
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http://www.ifitsmovies.com.nyud.net:8090...o-the-internet/
the new pic of the joker for example looks worse than jack nicholson.. You'd expect improvement since the 80's
Personally, I hope its before, and someone uses a knife to cut his cheeks open along the smile lines. (So when the scar heals, he is permanently smiling).
I really don't like the joker's look. I always appreciated the joker as a kind of high class crazy -- he's completely insane, but as I saw him had a very firm sense of self, at least. Very specific and careful clothing/makeup/way of committing crimes. This guy just looks like an average deranged madman.
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Yeah but it seems like they are trying to make this series a bit darker and making the joker more deranged in his "beginnings" could be interesting.
So far from everything I have seen or heard I am stoked. Batman Begins was just amazing.
-caseyjones
a. it tells us it is drawing upon the Dark Knight Returns and that tells us it aims to be definitive amoungst the previous films thanks to the title.
b. through the wordplay of the teaser the film is also clearly drawing from the killing joke also, which I read in previous articles.
Leveraging Alan Moore and Frank Miller's fantastic batman stories really tells me everything that I need to know, that any batman fan needs to know.
It's such an incredible time for the 30something crowd of comic fans these day. With both the Dark Knight and the Watchmen getting 'the royal treatment' atm, its like we're coming full circle.
At the time both these stories were released, it was like someone dropped an atom bomb on the comic industry and the shockwaves from that moment flattened the scene for a long time.
In the wake of that moment, Alan Moore quit the industry for nigh on a decade in disgust at how his and Miller's 1-2 combo was interpretated and Miller and Moore agreed they had
probably jointly signalled the death knell for the superhero because of how they had deconstructed what they represented.
Of course, that just skewed things, we had a slew of Rorschach / Punisher /Wolverine pyschos dominating for a couple decades as so few got it.
Here we are though, time enough has past for all the geeks of my wonder years to have grown up aware of what happened and to now be in a position to articulate it in cinema.
So aye, fantastic time for comic fans, I'd never dared to consider we'd have talents like Nolan,Singer and Raimi articulating the stories I grew up on.
r.
Ledger as the Joker is brilliant. Like Verm said. He just looks insane.
I can't wait for this movie. This summer it is going to be one of my favorites for sure.
The official trailer is out soon I guess. I can't wait.
http://screenrant.com/archives/how-about-two-joker-posters-pl-1233.html
The <font color="red">NEW TRAILER</font> is officially released. Enjoy.
http://atasteforthetheatrical.com/deathtrap/default.htm
<font color="orange">*HONK*</font>
and another mobile phone leak, this time from the preview of the first five minutes of the movie. Sound is really terrible.
http://joblo.com/leaked-tdk-prologue
Thanks for the links, Jackablade.
-caseyjones
i can't wait.
they can only lose
anyhow.. the first batmans where the best imo.. last one i liked so far was "bm forever"
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Wish they'd gone less sci-fi with the batsuit though, looks too Hollywood.
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No longer.
Looks BADASS.
Frank the Avenger
That to me is the Joker. Someone that could murder a without any feeling what so ever and laugh about it. Maybe a little homo erotic to him too. Kind of like Buffalo Bill or something like that. Not too overboard just to make him even more strange.
Jack Nicholson as the Joker was great and well suited for the original Batman film, and he did a great job. But Nolan's films are significantly different and from the new trailer, Ledger looks to be right on the money. Any concern that I may have had earlier, I no longer have.
-caseyjones
I can't stand Burton's work anymore
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Couldn't agree more. I used to really like the guys work but nowadays I can't stand it. Next he's doing Alice in Wonderland. Gee thanks... but no thanks. You already ruined Planet of the Apes and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Stick to the original stuff dude.
He's done some great stuff in the past. The last one being Big Fish - and that was only because it wasn't the quintessential 'Tim Burton' movie. Before that, you have to go all the way back to Ed Wood for his last decent movie.
BUT - back to the Dark Knight. Saw the opening 6 minutes this weekend. Cool, but not that cool. They were playing the Batman Begins OST beforehand and I never realized how amazing that soundtrack was. Might need to pick that up, and I'm not one that gets many soundtracks.
I am so mixed minded about this. So many good things, and so many bad things that could happen...
the new pic of the joker for example looks worse than jack nicholson.. You'd expect improvement since the 80's
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It looks like ordinary face paint because that's what it's supposed to look like. They're not going with the dumped into chemical look or whatever, and if you notice in the trailer his make-up actually fades off after a while
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I am so mixed minded about this. So many good things, and so many bad things that could happen...
the new pic of the joker for example looks worse than jack nicholson.. You'd expect improvement since the 80's
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It looks like ordinary face paint because that's what it's supposed to look like. They're not going with the dumped into chemical look or whatever, and if you notice in the trailer his make-up actually fades off after a while
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Well, is it wrong that I want the dumped in chemicals look? I dont want the plot to be about a crazy guy that likes weird face makeup...
he's just a bughouse loco sonofabitch.
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Amen.
That is why I love these movies and why the joker is cool as hell now.
Cause he's just one crazy bastard...
See to them your just a freak. Like Me.
I read a thing about it in Wizard last week. It's going to be animated by 4 Degrees Celsius, Madhouse, and Production I.G. Can't wait for this one.
Yeah the new Batman movies since Batman Begins are more a realistic type world and super hero where there aren't superhuman strengths and everything could be believable to a certain extent.
That is why I love these movies and why the joker is cool as hell now.
Cause he's just one crazy bastard...
See to them your just a freak. Like Me.
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One of the things that I've always like about Batman is that he is a superhero, but nothing is super about him.
It's Super villain VS Super Civilian.
Back up to when Lucas dropped the Midiclorian bomb on everyone. Millions of wanna-be Jedi's cried out in pain. Suddenly you had to be supper to be a Jedi. No longer was it some super natural thing anyone could tap into, but it is now only available to those who where born predisposed to it. He took the idea of Jedi (train hard and someday you can do cool shit) and put it outside the reach of fans. People already knew they couldn't ever really be a Jedi, but he managed to move it farther away and drew a line in the sand, to make sure every fan's empathy was locked down and stripped out of the experience. You may have felt like a tool standing in line in your Jedi get up waiting for the movie to open, but now leaving the theater they should have had trash bins for all the light sabers. Why do you think Storm Trooper Armor is so popular? Its a bitch to make and hard to wear, but its easier to slip into that roll then it is a Jedi. I don't understand why Hollywood likes to strip the humanity out of characters and then wonder why no one connects.
This latest version of Batman bring some much needed humanity back to human characters.
Unlike Superman who take bullets to the eye without blinking. It takes big brass balls for a "normal guy" to step in front of a bullet that he knows can kill him. Sure he has gadgets and body armor but he can still be hurt like anyone else in the audience.
Superman movie: "oh noes the villains have guns". /me watches as supes walks up to a hail of gun fire and bends the barrels with his bare hands".(insert cheesy line here)
Batman Movie: "guns huh... what kind of cool shit is he going to pull to disarm them, lets watch".
It's almost a fair fight for the crooks in Gotham, but never in Metropolis unless the crooks are brought up to Superman's level. Everyone likes to see the hero take one to the gut, and get back up. For Superman Spidey or the Hulk to be hit hard enough to drop to their knees you need an deranged mutant poodle or the one gimicky chink in Mr wonderful armor which you see coming 40 min prior. The villains in Batman don't need to be so extreme to put on a good show. Which opens the doors for different types of villains that can actually be more menacing to the audience then some ultra unrealistic super freak.
if the film is good i won´t say anything.. but the trailer is not my taste
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand even if they want to make a fucked-up-batman-look.. its too boring-clean (batmobile...)
and btw.. if the batmobile is bad the whole film is bad.. ALL IS BAAAAD.. BAADMAAAAN
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What i hated about the later batman movies was that he became superman. Oh someone has a flame thrower, good thing my cape is made to take the heat of the sun.
Batman was the character i loved because he did get his ass kicked on a daily basis. He also was smart enough to take precautions so that next time he would be ready for that fight. I like the idea of batman being the human hero because we have plenty of others that are super human.
I like the idea of joker just being the crazy phyco killer i saw him as. Someone who would in the middle of a speech would turn and slit his henchman's throat because it seemed like it would be funny. Then fall over in laughter as the guy pleaded for his life while dieing. Thats what i think of when i think joker someone truly disturbing and unpredictable. Thats why hes the best villain for batman because hes the opposite of him in every way other than they are both very dramatic.
I want it now!
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Well, is it wrong that I want the dumped in chemicals look? I dont want the plot to be about a crazy guy that likes weird face makeup...
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I'd venture to guess that one of the main reasons people (me included) are excited about the new design is, man, we've been bombarded with the lame superhero origin crap for too long...
-accidentally got bombarded with gamma-mega-rays
-accidentally got bitten by a super-radioactive spider
-accidentally fell into a experimental science-hole lined with sand
-accidentally got dunked in turbo-chemicals
...all that stupid shit. Cmon, it's so.. 1950s. About time to give it a rest.
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Good +1
Seriously, I know Kirby and Lee and Ditko et al invented a lot of this stuff, but have you read any of the old X-Men/Hulk/DareDevil/Spiderman/Captain America/Ant Man stuff? It's actually fucking garbage. I've got it all, and it limps from panel to panel, making it up as they go along. Yes, it was great stuff at the time, but reading it now is purely nostalgia or about recognising the origins.
yea, this batmobile has no class. The bat cycle is also really really ugly, and if he had power slided like that in real life with that thing, half the parts would have fallen off.
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I don't know man, they sold me on the batmobile in Begins. I had my doubts, but after seeing it in action it made perfect sense.
Once again going to the realism in Nolan's Batman films. Which is a breath of fresh air in comparison to a lot of the comic-to-movie films.
-caseyjones
-Buddikaman-
You mean this batmobile?
Agreed with Per on the origins of heroes, it's much cooler when it's not some totally random deus ex machina to create any sort of superpower you want, I find it has a lot more impact when it's actually just really evil or demented people doing mad things within the bounds of believability rather than some crazy zapping around of cosmic rays or whatever. Yeah.