Topogun 3 - looking good

CheeseOnToast · Apr 2020

So there's a few new-ish videos popping up about this (finally). Looks like some real improvement, and the patch tool is looking sexy. Any thoughts?

https://vimeo.com/403023432

rollin · Apr 2020

Ok, this wizzle-di-fizzle thing, where you draw the dynamic lines, is pretty cool

Ruz · Apr 2020

looks really nice, the separate ear retopo was cool.

(nice head sculpt BTW)

Domslice · Apr 2020

Watching this video casts a few doubts in my mind about Topogun for production. Seems like a fancy Zremesher to me. Undoubtedly it looks fast and powerful.

Can anyone attest to Topogun and getting great results for deformation/animation?

*I'm still retopo'ing by hand like a dinosaur in Maya, but the results always end up crispy clean and exactly how I want them. Would definitely consider buying this software though if y'all think its worthwhile!

oglu · Apr 2020

If you the topo by hand in topogun you get the exact same result as in maya.

kolayamit · Apr 2020

Look pretty amazing!

neilberard · Apr 2020

I've used Topogun for years and found it to be my favorite tool for re-topology and baking AO. Super intuitive and handles dense meshes well. Today, both Maya and Max have a pretty solid re-topology toolsets and there are so many good options for baking. That said, I would say it's worth checking out.

bounchfx · Apr 2020

I use maya for a lot of my retopo now, but if it's anything more than just a simple mesh I would 1000x prefer to use Topogun. It just FEELS so much better. Can't wait to try 3.

CheeseOnToast · May 2020

The beta has just dropped - free access for anyone who already owns Topogun 2.

https://www.topogun3.com/

Broadcast · Jul 2020

Anyone recommend buying topogun? How is it for hard surface retopo?

oglu · Jul 2020

Try it.
It has a Demo mode.

Ruz · Jul 2020

has anyoine tried the retopo functions inside marvelous designer.? pretty good for awkward jackets with overturned collars etc

Alex_J · Jul 2020

i am using the retopo in marvelous designer all the time. It works good for me, though for game characters I think most of the time you'll still need to make some manual adjustments. But it does save significant amount of work.

Ruz · Jul 2020

yeah it makes a good base to work over . I used it on collars on shirts that are turned over, because doing this manually can be a real pain

birb · Jul 2020

I've also used as a quick base for retopoing somewhere else. It could use more love to make working with it faster but hey, better than nothing! I'm truly grateful it exists as an option now.

Ruz · Jul 2020

hmm topogun3 s a crash fest. this actually put me off using previous versions also

I know its not the final version, but still

CheeseOnToast · Jul 2020

I'm on an older perpetual version of MD (7) that doesn't have the retopo stuff, was wondering if it's worth upgrading. When you're retopoing along a seam, does it give you some indication of where the verts are on the other seam so that they match up perfectly? That's the biggest pain using the transfer attributes method - having to constantly tweak the vert positions.

Ruz · Jul 2020

@CheeseOnToast

yes it actually does give you some visual feedback re where the verts meet, but its kind of cumbersome,

I actually am finding it easier to do it by hand tbh

you get a grid like reopo which is not that useful( for me anyway)

it also has an auto remesh, which tries it best to make the verts meet, but its still in development

scuse my typos BTW , my text is friggin tiny since i got this new video card and my eyeseight is getting worse:)

CheeseOnToast · Jul 2020

Cheers Mike. I'll see what they do with MD 10, although it's going subscription only unfortunately.

Zack Maxwell · Jul 2020

It's disturbing how little I've found of people actually discussing Topogun 3 online. Like almost nothing.
Is no one interested in it because the devs abandoned 2 for nearly a decade? I've been considering getting it since the retopo tools in my other software are so bad, but the lack of hype around it has me concerned that I've overlooked a big problem.

I've been trying to get into using Blender more. Does anyone know how Topogun 3 compares to Retopoflow? They have a similar price point and features. Apparently Retopoflow 3 still has some reliability and performance issues, but I have no idea if Topogun 3 is any better due to the total lack of discussion on it.

oglu · Jul 2020

Try it. Topogun does have a Demo.

Zack Maxwell · Jul 2020

oglu said:

Try it. Topogun does have a Demo.

I thought only full owners of Topogun 2 got access to the demo of version 3. I can't even find an option to download it anywhere.

oglu · Jul 2020

What about this link?
https://www.topogun3.com/

Zack Maxwell · Jul 2020

Oh yeah, that worked. Thanks. That page doesn't even show up on Google, so I didn't know it existed.

-Update-
So it's really interesting, but it seems to have a huge number of very basic problems. I can assume they'll be fixed by the time it comes out of beta, but I wouldn't bet $100 plus whatever the undecided upgrade fee will be on that happening.
Stuff like vertices not merging when they snap to the symmetry line, Patch tool frequently refusing to connect end points together, tooltips not showing when using a tablet, literally none of the tools functioning properly when they cross the symmetry line, symmetry just sort of failing to work accurately in general, or the extrusion tool being extremely sloppy and unwieldy.
I can retopo super fast with it, but then I spend an equal amount of time fixing errors.

kolayamit · Jul 2020

Take a look at zirail.

Here -

https://youtu.be/1j-aFfL3vdg

oglu · Jul 2020

Doing big flat areas isnt the problem. Thin areas like ears, eyelids or wings are the troublemakers.

CreativeSheep · Oct 2020

I've been experiencing issues getting it to run. At first I thought it was a licensing issue, that is what I was hoping it was. Although once the licensing issue were taken care of, it still doesn't run. I was in contact with the author of Topogun,

now when I try to run Topogun 3.0 beta, all that happens is a see a white blank square on the screen for 2 seconds then, that's it; Topogun 3.0 beta doesn't load ?

Topogun 3 - looking good

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