[WIP] Samurai Defeated

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Hello!

Inspired by all the samurai themed games during E3 (especially Sekiro) i decided to make my own.
Final scene will have her shot full of arrows, or cornered, or making some sort of last stand, something dramatic!
Ive been busy researching and concepting and here's where I am at the moment:


Majority of it is still in early concept blob stage but a few things are starting to take shape.

Her sandals and leg wraps:


Her arm armour:


Next ill continue on with the sleeve fabric and research a way to do the intricate chainmail that Kote have. As well as designed her emblem which will dictate the theme of all the pattern work.

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  • Olingova
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    Details in the sculpt are gorgeous!!!
    Just kinda skeptic about this chain mail on the elbows, looks way too weak to me, looks like it would break in a sec. I would suggest to make it plain or remove it.

    And yeah haha thought the same for the artstation contest, too bad because it's coming out really nicely!!
  • priderice
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    I Really love the Stiching and the thin Fiber Rope, makes it so realistic
  • Doxturtle
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    really great attention to detail with this piece, the tiny details on the hand are so good
  • Alex Javor
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    Tutorial please!

    Will pay money to watch breakdown of the stitching between plates, particularly the gloves. 


  • aanselmo
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    This is getting amazing, the details are really good, love the footwear with the rope piece
  • ja000ha
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    The details are excellent! Looking forward to seeing how she turns out.
  • g_osorio
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    This is gorgeous! how did you do the back part of the shoes? was it all with zspheres?
  • sugunwar
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    Hello, nice job, could you explain how to make that stiches and back part of shoes? please

  • oraeles77
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    all of this was done in zbrush??
  • renocrade
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    great job with the details.
  • Pav3d
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    Thanks @renocrade :smile:

    oraeles77 said:
    all of this was done in zbrush??
    The armour and string was made in 3ds max, the cloth was all sculpted in Zbrush
  • Carlos Eduardo
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    Amazing how fast you can work. Your topics are always full of motivation and knowledge for me. Thanks a lot!
  • Mark Dygert
    This is coming a long fan-fucking-tastically. Keep up the good work!

    Aaahem... I mean this sucks, you're failing, try harder. ;)
  • AndrewCothill
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    The cloth was all done in ZBrush?? 

    You're my new hero :no_mouth:
  • Lou_
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    Great work so far! If this is anything like Lordling I am sure it will become another of my favourite pieces of character art! 
  • Bill Lumbergh
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    I love it Pavel!! so good!
  • bkost
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    Oh man, thats too good to pass up. Thank you for the notice @Lucie666
  • jose.fuentes
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    so good, I can't wait to see how this develops 
  • Aga22
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    this is insane. congrats. i'm amazed.
  • Tits
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    That's some kickass detailing work, the whole piece is incredibly well done
  • shogunato
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    Fantastic work this is really impressive
  • Ruflse
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    Your characters are always top quality! I learn a lot using them as reference.
  • Alex Javor
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    man....

    i follow a lot of great artist who make work that makes you say, "damn, that's awesome." but your work consistently makes me say not just "awesome" but also "how the fuck did he make that." And always with the tiny little details too. Really impressive. 
  • BestiART
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    looks great man!! How did you make the details on the handle of the katana?
  • dGreenberg
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    The katana looks incredible and her face has so much more life and personality now, man! All the pieces on that sword look like they interlock and work so well together, and your details are always super well made. The details on the grip just below the guard and the part at the top of the scabbard (in particular) are jaw dropping. Incredible update as usual, @Pav3d!
  • Alex Javor
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    thanks, I really appreciate that, Paul.  So you get the chainmail into position, then just have to line things up, and punch out the tiny holes.... very meticulous. If you baked the chainmail into a texture, I don't think then you could have it runnign through holes like that on ethe gloves? Well, I'll see how it looks at the end and should be able to understand.


    I saw that you had a live class, unfortunately it was while I was out of town. If you have anything more like that planned, please let us know. 
  • NikhilR
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    BestiART said:
    looks great man!! How did you make the details on the handle of the katana?
    Hey thanks! could you be more specific? im not sure what area you mean, the white handle texture or the wraps or the engraving or...? :)

    @Pav3d
     Thank you so much for sharing these techniques!
    I've been using the curve function method for some straps on a sword I'm making (not working out very well)
    Did you use curve functions for the wraps on your katana?
    I'm preparing to post progress for my model, would it be alright to pm you some progress thus far first and get some guidance?
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    Pav3d said:
    Thanks guys, very encouraging :smile:

    Tutorial please!

    Will pay money to watch breakdown of the stitching between plates, particularly the gloves. 


    If you are referring to the chainmail in between the glove plates I can explain that.

    For this I used nanomesh in Zbrush. Since Zbrush will create the nanomesh mesh in the center of each poly I made a proxy mesh in 3ds max to guide exactly where I wanted to the chainmail to appear.


    You can edit the proxy mesh using regular move brushes etc and see the updates on the chainmail in real time.


    You can use the ZDM brush "spin edge" option to adjust any incorrectly rotated chainmail links.


    The final part is just manually moving around individual chainmail links to get them to fit in the correct spot. This is the longest and most tedius part and there is no fast way to do this sadly :p

    Now if I was doing this for a game character today I wouldnt bother with this method  :p I would instead bake down chainmail onto a simpler mesh, similar to the orignal proxy mesh and align it that way. Im just using this as a way to experiment to see if I can find some way to make a chainmail with some more depth.

    BestiART said:
    looks great man!! How did you make the details on the handle of the katana?
    Hey thanks! could you be more specific? im not sure what area you mean, the white handle texture or the wraps or the engraving or...? :)
    I mean the grip of the katana, those fabric fibers, how did you make them? :)
  • Torch
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    Fantastic dude! You're going above and beyond with those katanga details, the materials look spot on. Great job
  • Pav3d
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    NikhilR said:
    @Pav3d
     Thank you so much for sharing these techniques!
    I've been using the curve function method for some straps on a sword I'm making (not working out very well)
    Did you use curve functions for the wraps on your katana?
    I'm preparing to post progress for my model, would it be alright to pm you some progress thus far first and get some guidance?
    Ill explain the wraps below. And yeah sure, when I have some time I will take a look :)
    BestiART said:
    I mean the grip of the katana, those fabric fibers, how did you make them? :)
    The wraps are made in 3ds max, made using relatively simple meshes with a shell and turbosmooth modifier on top



    Before that I had to get my head around how theyre actually made IRL, so I did some practicing with some shoelaces :p

    this pdf helped a lot.

    While modelling I made sure my UVs remained straight, so it would be easier later on.



    I then made the thread pattern using substance designer. Its fairly clean at the moment I will need to make rips, holes, loose threads etc.


    Currently the wraps are pretty high poly, so I will make a simpler low poly mesh of the handle and then bake the colour information from the thread normal maps onto it. Then bake the high poly wraps normals and blend them together.

    I will be using this technique for all the string holding the armour together.
  • Ruflse
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    Looking solid!
    I did a samurai some time ago and I'm curious to know how you are planning to retopo these pieces. Are you going to use the same model and texture space for all of them or are you going to give each of them their own topology and texture?



  • Lou_
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    Amazing work Paul! 

    How do you do about baking the normals of the wraps? 

    Is it projecting the colour map in zbrush
    or are you Photoshop editing them on to the UVs 

    It seems like a very interesting workflow. 
  • Alex Javor
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    all these mini-tut's in your threads ought to be compiled and archived.
  • bkost
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    Wonderful work Paul! I look forward to seeing how you manage to retopo/uv all the tiny details

    @BIGTIMEMASTER I second that! It'd be nice to have a repository of various mini tut's people post on the forums. There are so many hidden gems
  • Ackeem
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    Brilliant work as always man! great thread as well
  • Pav3d
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    Thanks guys! Been a while but Ive been busy doing the low poly, baking, texturing, hair cards as well as designing fabric and engraving patterns. For now heres her weapons.



    Still texturing her, nearly done :)
  • Nuclear Angel
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    Damn such intricate detailing and beautiful closeups. I am super impressed on how well you have retained the details on the textures. Almost look like detail maps are being used in places! 
  • Pav3d
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    Hey thanks! Just a 4k texture, no detail maps :)
  • AmShaegar
    That silk-ish fabric with the subtle anisotropic reflection effect is exceptionally good looking. Amazing work
  • Alex Javor
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    Finally! Been anxiously awaiting this for too long.
  • jose.fuentes
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    great work, thanks for all the breakdowns! 
  • ScopeDragon
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    Oh my goodness. That is a very sexy piece of work you got there.
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