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FF7 Tifa
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Hi polycounters. I wanted to have a go at making a current gen version of Tifa, hopefully I can finish this before Square-Enix releases screenshots of her in the remake and completely puts me to shame.
I'm going to do the classic outfit but I'm thinking about adding other elements and layers to make it a bit of a redesign. Been working on the body and face so far, been looking at east asian fighters for reference, though I want her frame to be a bit thicker and curvier than usual. Here's what I have so far. Please crit if you see anything that looks weird or bad so far.
Hi polycounters. I wanted to have a go at making a current gen version of Tifa, hopefully I can finish this before Square-Enix releases screenshots of her in the remake and completely puts me to shame.
I'm going to do the classic outfit but I'm thinking about adding other elements and layers to make it a bit of a redesign. Been working on the body and face so far, been looking at east asian fighters for reference, though I want her frame to be a bit thicker and curvier than usual. Here's what I have so far. Please crit if you see anything that looks weird or bad so far.
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Great start indeed!
Great start though !! Especially the attention to details on her panty O o
Angela Lee (left) might be good reference for ya.
I'd probably round out the deltoid a bit more, just personal preference though.
@polaroid29 Thanks, you're right about the hips/thighs, they were too wide so I've reigned it in a bit and slimmed out the thighs more. Thanks for the ref, she's cute. Also with body proportions, I'm going for 8 heads high, idealized/stylized proportions.
@AtticusMars Yep you were right that there's no pectoral, I've added it in now and rounded out the deltoid, do you think this looks better?
Carrying on with this, I made some clothes with MD/zbrush and got some rough shoes on the go. I want her boots to have little heels, but I need to hit some more reference, they look wrong from the back. I'm thinking of trying to make the gloves in MD and seeing if it gives me a good result.
I want the clothing to look really high quality, so loads of work to do on detailing...!
I guess the only thing I'm concerned on is the folds for the top? MD does a great job, but I kind of question whats going on on the back of her top? To my knowledge those kind of horizontal folds show when the cloth has friction on the surface underneath it, enough to not fall down, so the cloth piles ontop of itself. It looks though like there's nothing on the curve of her back for cloth to get stuck on like that though?
@Aveon You're right about the folds, I missed that, thanks! Tightened up the top at the back so its not hanging loose any more, but still needs more work!
@Fuiosg Haha you are right, though she always had a sweet and innocent side I feel that kinda contrasted with Aeris' cheekiness. I think because the face is neutral she does look a little gormless though, I'm unsure how much expression I want to give the face in the bake but I will definitely try out some facial expressions and see if I can give her more energy.
Added some more cloth elements, made the long gloves in MD and started on her sparring gloves. I think I want to add some more padding to the knuckles still. Here's a quick drawover to show what I want to add - also thinking of designing a leather jacket that would be like a cold area costume variation that I could just turn on and off.
I'm actually not a fan of her abs... i feel like they could be defined better, and their transition onto the ribs looks a little weird to me, like they're bulging out instead of flattening. Could be the matcap...
This may be a bit more defined than you're going for, but you can see how the abs flatten out quite quickly. Additionally, the stronger/more cut a woman gets, the more their abs tend to run straight up/down than have that "A" shape to them. Again it depends how soft you want her to look. But you definitely need to look at the transition from the ribs to the external oblique.
Another observation i made earlier in the thread but forgot to post about (my baaaad!) is to pay attention to the area above the tricep on the back of the arm, unless she has a crazy low body fat percentage, that area (above tricep, behind deltoid) is always kinda... puffy? Looking really nice though man.
I may need to revisit Sephiroth...
I love your works btw xD!!!
http://i07.kanobu.net/c/6b8302182d57f82c608017965a15c278/1040x584/i.ytimg.com/vi/z1ViXbnAHBQ/maxresdefault.jpg
The facial expression does bother me a bit though, I feel like she should look confident - whereas right now she looks rather lost and insecure. I haven't played FF7 (or any FF, lol sorry) but that's the feeling I'm getting from your mood reel.
Keep up the great work!
@kasigawa The 'skin' that's on the model right now is literally just a flat colour, so yes I definitely want to push it in that direction and add some wear and tear, idk if I'll go full Lara with dirt on the face yet but we'll see!
As I said it's a matter of personal taste but consider to give it a try, maybe just a dirty photoshop paintover just to see how it would look.
Keep up the good work!
@Abrvpt Thank you, the more I look at the shoes I was starting to question the heels! I agree that she looks a bit off balance - I need to redo the sole of the shoe properly anyway, so I'm tempted to stay on model to doc martens. I wanted to try make the sole a bit chunkier to give it more of a scifi feel.
Update, built lots of straps this week! Had another go at the anatomy, but still lots to do on the body yet.
Take it with a grain of salt, i'm kinda testing my own knowledge via my input haha. Still looks great, the small refinement on her abs brought miles of quality
Tonight I worked on the face and realized I did my usual nonsense of making the eyes too far apart, and the face was a bit wide. Here's a gif of the changes I made. If you see something that still looks whack feel free to paintover!
Subbed!
@dGreenberg That's good, I'd like the base head to have a neutral expression overall, I think the new one is more balanced overall too.
Thickened the fingers, hopefully they don't look too sausage-like now. Next I need to add belt loops to the skirt and build the shoes, going to stick closer to the dr marten boot and build the sole of the shoe in 3dsmax. Need to write a list!
Interesting that you've got the leather micro-details going on, I'd of thought you'd maybe do that in substance? Though I don't know too much of your work flow.
@Aveon Glad you're hype! Those are just for visualising it at an early stage, for the game res version fabrics will be done in the texture
@WanaBRtiBtMTuLzPsHlp You can catch some of the process on my twitch channel, there may be tutorial coming eventually!
@f1ey they're just placeholders for now
I bought a scan of a female body and ecorche model over the weekend and went back to the base body. I polished up a few more bits and pieces and made her elbow armor, added belt loops etc. Need to resculpt the shirt 'cos I ended up changing the boobs a lot. As usual crit appreciated!